# Well, Fuck! Looks like he killed her **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 18, 2005, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232 "2005-03-18T23:31:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/21 "2005-03-19T12:09:48Z")
> [@belladonna](#): > > Short of assigning someone to follow every sex offender around, or keeping them all locked up indefinitely, I don’t know that there’s much hope of stopping these kinds of things from happening. Father of a three year old, in a country which doesn’t have the death penalty. Yes, there is: the lead tablet. As far as I’m concerned anyone who molests a child has forfeited the right to be a part of human society - locking them up until they die and hoping that prison justice takes its course is too expensive and benefits no-one {and let’s not talk about the possibility of rehabilitation: people who can do this aren’t “sick” - I hate that euphemism - they’re _evil_}, so put a bullet in the back of their heads and bury them. ---
**Author:** ![Tenar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@Tenar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tenar)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/22 "2005-03-19T12:32:05Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Whereas if we gave everyone, even those who protest their innocence, the full treatment of sodomy and the lash, we’d certainly be inflicting that punishment on many who did not even do anything resembling these crimes. “_Sodomy and the lash_”? We’re pressing them into the British Navy? ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/23 "2005-03-19T12:43:24Z")
Maybe we’re making them listen to that album by _The Pogues_. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/24 "2005-03-19T13:44:15Z")
I certainly understand WANTING to kill them, but major policies shouldn’t be based on high emotions. Hence I am still against the death penalty, even with assholes like this who are begging for it. ---
**Author:** ![yellowval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/919ad9/32.png) [@yellowval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowval)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/25 "2005-03-19T14:40:35Z")
According to [this](http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&e=1&u=/ap/missing_girl) story this morning, he may have actually lived with Jessica’s half-sister sometimes. The sister lived right next door. Damn. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/26 "2005-03-19T16:24:31Z")
Stories like this make it very difficult for me to maintain my anti-death penalty stance. May he rot in prison forever. Bread and water, hard labor, and severe beatings on a regular basis. ---
**Author:** ![ioioio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ioioio/32/316_2.png) [@ioioio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ioioio)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/27 "2005-03-19T16:24:59Z")
> [@yellowval](#): > > According to [this](http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&e=1&u=/ap/missing_girl) story this morning, he may have actually lived with Jessica’s half-sister sometimes. The sister lived right next door. Damn. I interpret the story as saying that it was Couey’s half-sister, not Jessica’s. > [@](#): > > The three charged with obstruction were identified as Dorothy Dixon, 47, Couey’s half-sister; Madie Secord, 27; and Matthew Dittrich, 31. All apparently lived in the home near the site where the little girl’s body was found. I’m glad the authorities are charging those who helped this monster evade the laws that were designed to protect us from him. ---
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/28 "2005-03-19T16:30:45Z")
Speaking of evil, what we need are more witch trials and hysteria. ---
**Author:** ![Nic2004](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4491bb/32.png) [@Nic2004](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nic2004)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/29 "2005-03-19T16:41:15Z")
**Ludovic** - > [@](#): > > Well, I’ve said before people who actually do commit these crimes do not deserve to live untortured. But the problem with confession is that if we only allow such things to happen to those who do confess, do you think anyone would confess? It would lower the confession rate and thus some of them would get off, free to continue their crimes. He was a convicted child molester, he violated his parole, he fled the state, then, after failing a lie detector test, he confessed. You make it sound like he was just trying to do the right thing. No, he was busted. And yet, he has not told were the body is. Why? To plea bargain. _I will tell you were I dumped that poor childs body, after her terror and pain, only if you agree not to seek the death penalty. I’ll give back the tiny body I destroyed if you won’t hurt me._ > [@](#): > > Whereas if we gave everyone, even those who protest their innocence, the full treatment of sodomy and the lash, we’d certainly be inflicting that punishment on many who did not even do anything resembling these crimes. Just lock 'em up. Keep 'em there if they’re that dangerous. No one has suggested that everyone who has had an allegation against him should be handled in this way. There are many cases of false allegation and everyone knows that. This is not the case here. And the “lock 'em up” thing just adds to the problem. He is a fairly young guy, despite his apperance. We are talking DECADES on food, clothing, shelter, full medical and dental for this piece of shit. That is if he doesn’t “find Jesus” while inside and some limp-dick Parole Board doesn’t set him out to harm again. Why? Because his life is precious? He has rights? He is caring and sensitve human being? Hell No. He is an animal. He is trash. He is a drain on society, he has no merits and has given up his rights with a crime against this poor little girl. I’m with **Case Sensitive** , a little lead taken internally is the only approach that would even resemble justice. Too quick a death some say. It wouldn’t have to be quick… just effective ---
**Author:** ![Nic2004](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4491bb/32.png) [@Nic2004](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nic2004)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/30 "2005-03-19T16:45:17Z")
> [@erislover](#): > > Speaking of evil, what we need are more witch trials and hysteria. Witch Trails were unfounded charges against innocent people. Hysteria? Hardly. You may be shocked at the lack of emotion that would be shown in this execution. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/31 "2005-03-19T16:54:38Z")
> [@Nicodemus2004](#): > > **Ludovic** - > He was a convicted child molester, he violated his parole, he fled the state, then, after failing a lie detector test, he confessed. You make it sound like he was just trying to do the right thing. No, he was busted. And yet, he has not told were the body is. Why? To plea bargain. _I will tell you were I dumped that poor childs body, after her terror and pain, only if you agree not to seek the death penalty. I’ll give back the tiny body I destroyed if you won’t hurt me._ Um… he did tell them where the body of the poor girl was, and it’s been found. ---
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/32 "2005-03-19T17:10:48Z")
> [@Nicodemus2004](#): > > Witch Trails were unfounded charges against innocent people. This is [Jordan](http://www.petdance.com/actionpark/bigblack/jordan/), we do what we like. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/33 "2005-03-19T18:57:01Z")
Believe me, events like this do make me almost want to bring back the death penalty, but I would like to be murdered by the state no more than I would like to be murdered by a kidnapper. It also makes me sad that there are a handful of people on parole boards who do let people like this go, and sad that a large majority of people who don’t mind if innocent people are murdered to stop the first kind of people. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/34 "2005-03-19T18:58:37Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Believe me, events like this do make me almost want to **bring back** the death penalty… errr, that should be something like “not oppose the DP”. ---
**Author:** ![Nic2004](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4491bb/32.png) [@Nic2004](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nic2004)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/35 "2005-03-19T19:39:25Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Believe me, events like this do make me almost want to bring back the death penalty, **but I would like to be murdered by the state no more than I would like to be murdered by a kidnapper**. Bolding Mine. That’s easy. Don’t kidnap, terrorize, abuse and murder a child and we’ll have nothing to discuss. She did nothing wrong and she was killed. He did something very wrong and you feel that to kill him is equivilent to his crime? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/36 "2005-03-19T19:47:58Z")
> [@Nicodemus2004](#): > > Bolding Mine. That’s easy. Don’t kidnap, terrorize, abuse and murder a child and we’ll have nothing to discuss. She did nothing wrong and she was killed. He did something very wrong and you feel that to kill him is equivilent to his crime? You. Are. Fucking. Hopeless. ---
**Author:** ![Nic2004](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4491bb/32.png) [@Nic2004](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nic2004)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2005, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/37 "2005-03-20T13:47:43Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > You. Are. Fucking. Hopeless. Thanks. But I prefer in-fuckin-corrigible. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![griffen2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ce7236/32.png) [@griffen2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffen2)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2005, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/38 "2005-03-20T15:33:51Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Stories like this make it very difficult for me to maintain my anti-death penalty stance. May he rot in prison forever. Bread and water, hard labor, and severe beatings on a regular basis. I totally agree. I’m staunchly anti DP but **only** because the legal system isn’t waterproof, innocents do become fodder for old sparky and any society which is willing to overlook this in pursuit of some utilitarian idea of a greater good is displaying the same callous disregard for human life exhibited by those we are supposed to be punishing. But yeah, if our legal system were perfected to the point where no innocent was ever executed then I’d change my stance in a heartbeat. Our humanity is tarnished when subhuman filth like this get to live a full life. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2005, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/39 "2005-03-20T16:36:22Z")
> [@griffen2](#): > > I totally agree. I’m staunchly anti DP but **only** because the legal system isn’t waterproof, innocents do become fodder for old sparky and any society which is willing to overlook this in pursuit of some utilitarian idea of a greater good is displaying the same callous disregard for human life exhibited by those we are supposed to be punishing. Same here. If there was a way to be absolutely 100% correct on every death penalty case then I’d have no problem with the DP. Hell, I’d have no problem killing this sick fuck myself. Unfortunately, I do not have that kind of confidence in our legal system and, frankly, even 99.9% accurate is not accurate enough to send someone to their death. ---
**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2005, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/40 "2005-03-20T16:41:59Z")
> [@Neurotik](#): > > Unfortunately, I do not have that kind of confidence in our legal system and, frankly, even 99.9% accurate is not accurate enough to send someone to their death. Those are good odds though! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232.md?page=3)