# Well, Fuck!  Looks like he killed her

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 18, 2005, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232 "2005-03-18T23:31:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2005, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/41 "2005-03-21T01:38:30Z")

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> [@Neurotik](#):
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> Same here. If there was a way to be absolutely 100% correct on every death penalty case then I’d have no problem with the DP. Hell, I’d have no problem killing this sick fuck myself.
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> Unfortunately, I do not have that kind of confidence in our legal system and, frankly, even 99.9% accurate is not accurate enough to send someone to their death.

He confessed and the evidence all points to him, that’s 100% enough for me to send him to the chair.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2005, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/42 "2005-03-21T08:01:48Z")

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Just wanted to say that I saw her dad make a statement to the press earlier today. Very touching to see a mullet-wearing good-ol’-boy speak with such dignity.

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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2005, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/43 "2005-03-21T14:06:27Z")

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[http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/20/lunsford.case/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/20/lunsford.case/index.html)

> [@](#):
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> Sheriff: Evidence points to sex abuse
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> Monday, March 21, 2005 Posted: 8:23 AM EST (1323 GMT)
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> HOMOSASSA, Florida (CNN) – Jessica Marie Lunsford, the 9-year-old Florida girl whose body was found Saturday near her parents’ home, was kidnapped from her bedroom, and there is evidence from a medical examiner that she was sexually assaulted, the Citrus County sheriff said Sunday night.
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> \< snip \>
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> Couey, who has a long criminal history, allegedly confessed to abducting and killing Jessica and burying her in the yard of his half-sister’s house, not far from the Lunsford’s home. Couey has not been charged in that case.
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> \< snip \>
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> According to the sheriff and other sources, the suspect entered the house on the night of February 23, made his way to her bedroom, put his hand over her mouth, told her to be quiet, and forced her to leave.
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> Her body was found at 4 a.m. Saturday buried behind Couey’s half-sister’s home, which is within sight of the Lunsford home, where a command center was set up to coordinate the search for her.

> [@ParentalAdvisory](#):
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> For love of Og, why can’t these sick fuckers just get a prostitute?

Because rape isn’t simply about “lust”, or about getting your ashes hauled–it’s also about power, and hostility, and aggression, and intimidation.

But mostly about power–it’s about the need to see “fear” in someone’s eyes, fear of **you** , in order to make yourself feel good about yourself.

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**Author:** ![yellowval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/919ad9/32.png) [@yellowval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowval)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2005, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/44 "2005-03-21T14:36:11Z")

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> [@laina\_f](#):
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> I interpret the story as saying that it was Couey’s half-sister, not Jessica’s.

You’re right. My apologies. Me no read good.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2005, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/45 "2005-03-21T15:58:36Z")

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The door was unlocked.

_Unlocked_.

Oh dear God. What guilt her family must have.

My kids went to [Escape School.](http://www.escapeschool.com/) I reviewed situation this with my daughter, and she knows to scream bloody murder if anyone comes into her room.

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**Author:** ![Greathouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greathouse/32/2992_2.png) [@Greathouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greathouse)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2005, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/46 "2005-03-21T17:13:24Z")

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> [@Duck Duck Goose](#):
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> _\<snip\>_…or about getting your ashes hauled…_\<snip\>_

This makes the second time in this thread I have seen the term _“getting your ashes hauled”_. What does it mean?

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2005, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/47 "2005-03-21T17:22:10Z")

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**Greathouse** , reread the sentences. I’m sure you’ll be figure it out using context.

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**Author:** ![Greathouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greathouse/32/2992_2.png) [@Greathouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greathouse)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2005, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/48 "2005-03-21T17:27:59Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> **Greathouse** , reread the sentences. I’m sure you’ll be figure it out using context.

Does ashes = semen ?

If so then I figured out what it means, and wish that I hadn’t with regards to the thread subject. If not, then please help me out a bit. I’m not being intentionally obtuse, I’ve just never heard the term before.

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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2005, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/49 "2005-03-21T17:58:45Z")

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It refers to the practice of removing the ashes and clinkers from a coal-burning furnace. I suppose it could also refer to removing ashes from a wood-burning stove, but the context I learned it was in regard to coal-burning home furnaces: that was always “Father’s little chore”, to go down-cellar once a day, sift down the grate, and remove the ashes and clinkers.

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**Author:** ![Nic2004](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4491bb/32.png) [@Nic2004](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nic2004)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/50 "2005-03-22T03:14:19Z")

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> [@Greathouse](#):
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> Does ashes = semen ?
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> If so then I figured out what it means, and wish that I hadn’t with regards to the thread subject. If not, then please help me out a bit. I’m not being intentionally obtuse, I’ve just never heard the term before.

**Greathouse** : I’m with you. I’ve been around the block enough to wear a groove in the road and hung out in places most civilized people would never venture into. Yet, I stilll don’t know what they are getting at. I too don’t want to be obtuse and in need of having it spelled out… But WTF.

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**Author:** ![Standup\_Karmic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Standup\_Karmic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Standup_Karmic)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/51 "2005-03-22T07:36:45Z")

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Also new to the phrase regarding hauled ashes. One quick Google turned up this fine explanation (see the first paragraph following the italics):

[Click](http://www.acguitar.com/issues/ag50/dear50.html)

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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/52 "2005-03-22T13:46:59Z")

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[sits down to write glowing testimonial letter to manufacturer of Invisibility Cloak]

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2005, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/53 "2005-03-23T01:03:05Z")

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Holy shit! I just heard on the news that the fucker had _worked at the little girls school!_ He was hired by a contractor to be a mason’s assistant at construction done at the school. The contractor denies the fucker had any contact with the children, but at least one employee contradicts this. :::shudder:::

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