# Well I can't argue with that logic!

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 7, 2012, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-cant-argue-with-that-logic/615059 "2012-03-07T18:57:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-cant-argue-with-that-logic/615059/1 "2012-03-07T18:57:44Z")

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> **[Jesus 'May Have Been Hermaphrodite', Says Researcher](https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/jesus-christ-hermaphrodite-dr-susannah-cornwall-paper-307940)**
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> Feminist theologian claims Jesus may have had both male and female features.

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> “There is no way of knowing for sure that Jesus did not have one of the intersex conditions which would give him a body which appeared externally to be unremarkably male, but which might nonetheless have had some ‘hidden’ female physical features,” Cornwall claims.
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> “He might have had ovarian as well as testicular tissue in his body.”
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> Cornwall argues that because Jesus, as far as is believed, never married, had children or engaged in sexual intercourse, his maleness is less certain.
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> “We cannot know for sure that Jesus was male since we do not have a body to examine and analyse. It can only be that Jesus’ masculine gender role, rather than his male sex, is having to bear the weight of all this authority.”

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-cant-argue-with-that-logic/615059/2 "2012-03-07T19:10:10Z")

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As a hard scientist who is driving himself insane trying to collect, y’know, data, so I can finish my PhD, I find myself really quite offended that people have long, stable, lucrative academic careers writing about bullshit like this.

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**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-cant-argue-with-that-logic/615059/3 "2012-03-07T19:24:24Z")

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> [@Ogre](#):
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> As a hard scientist who is driving himself insane trying to collect, y’know, data, so I can finish my PhD, I find myself really quite offended that people have long, stable, lucrative academic careers writing about bullshit like this.

Humanities’ academia has trolling too. In fact, it has a fair amount. If I were a feminist theologian academic wanting to get attention, I’d write stuff like that too.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-cant-argue-with-that-logic/615059/4 "2012-03-07T20:11:20Z")

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Yeah, I was a doubting Thomas, too.

Smell my finger!

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Doom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Dr\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Doom)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-cant-argue-with-that-logic/615059/5 "2012-03-07T20:16:04Z")

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Isn’t Jesus also suing Google Streetview for showing him urinating out front of his workshop, or something?

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-cant-argue-with-that-logic/615059/6 "2012-03-07T20:19:37Z")

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I’m going to write an article about how maybe he had three nipples and an outie and see if I can get it published.

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-cant-argue-with-that-logic/615059/7 "2012-03-07T20:30:23Z")

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There’s also know way we can know for sure that Jesus wasn’t actually two midgets, one standing on the other’s shoulders, wearing a single robe to look like one tall guy.

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**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-cant-argue-with-that-logic/615059/8 "2012-03-07T20:35:26Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> There’s also know way we can know for sure that Jesus wasn’t actually two midgets, one standing on the other’s shoulders, wearing one robe. What the hell has that got to do with anything??

One of the arguments for not allowing women to be priests is that Jesus was a man. There’s also a quote from Epistles to Timothy about making sure that women don’t teach men or have authority over them but rather listen in silence.

I think she wants to undermine the first argument about Jesus having been a man. “We can’t be sure Jesus was a man without a body so, even though everything points to it, we cannot just accept that he was. Ergo, we can’t forbid women from being priests on account of Jesus having been a man.” Which is a rather skeptical attitude coming from a theologian.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-cant-argue-with-that-logic/615059/9 "2012-03-07T20:52:34Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> There’s also know way we can know for sure that Jesus wasn’t actually two midgets, one standing on the other’s shoulders, wearing a single robe to look like one tall guy.

Muppet Jesus!

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-cant-argue-with-that-logic/615059/10 "2012-03-08T00:17:17Z")

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I kind of want to read her paper, if only to find out exactly what her point is.

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**Author:** ![dzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@dzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzero)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-cant-argue-with-that-logic/615059/11 "2012-03-08T02:34:31Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> There’s also know way we can know for sure that Jesus wasn’t actually two midgets, one standing on the other’s shoulders, wearing a single robe to look like one tall guy.

> [@Yllaria](#):
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> Muppet Jesus!

I’d intended to go with Wheelz’ theory, but now I’m not sure. Very tough call.

Why does everyone try to confuse me with pseudo-facts?

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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-cant-argue-with-that-logic/615059/12 "2012-03-09T05:24:17Z")

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If they would have just moved his damn hands out of the way before they covered him with that shroud we wouldn’t have to speculate about this.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-cant-argue-with-that-logic/615059/13 "2012-03-09T07:37:02Z")

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It states quite clearly in some book or other that Jesus was the son of a carpenter. Not the daughter of a carpenter. And, for that matter, not even a carpenter himself.

Therefore it is 100% evident to me that he is as real and as masculine as Robin Hood, as King Arthur, and as Santa Claus.

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-cant-argue-with-that-logic/615059/14 "2012-03-09T07:41:07Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> … and as Santa Claus.

Oh, I guess you haven’t heard…

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-cant-argue-with-that-logic/615059/15 "2012-03-09T09:07:46Z")

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So _that’s_ what the H stands for…

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-cant-argue-with-that-logic/615059/16 "2012-03-09T09:10:13Z")

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That’s very un-PC. If Jesus gender-identified as male then he was male.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-cant-argue-with-that-logic/615059/17 "2012-03-09T13:43:02Z")

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Jesus Fucking Christ.

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**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-cant-argue-with-that-logic/615059/18 "2012-03-09T14:28:44Z")

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> [@PlainJain](#):
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> Oh, I guess you haven’t heard…

There are so many jokes you could be aiming for here. I’d like to know which it was.
