# Well, I guess we better talk about Jeb Bush.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-guess-we-better-talk-about-jeb-bush/684981>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 31, 2014, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-guess-we-better-talk-about-jeb-bush/684981 "2014-03-31T13:34:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-guess-we-better-talk-about-jeb-bush/684981/81 "2014-04-02T18:57:01Z")

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> [@Mr\_Quatro](#):
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> …Pubs? :mad:

Shorter than “running dog jackals of the ruling class”.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-guess-we-better-talk-about-jeb-bush/684981/82 "2014-04-02T19:40:26Z")

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> [@Mr\_Quatro](#):
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> The Pubs? What is this txt from blackberry?

No, from the Dope; “Dem” and “Pub” are commonplace abbreviations here and have been for years.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-guess-we-better-talk-about-jeb-bush/684981/83 "2014-04-02T20:26:25Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Shorter than “running dog jackals of the ruling class”.

But lacks the flavor of the longer name. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-guess-we-better-talk-about-jeb-bush/684981/84 "2014-04-02T20:27:22Z")

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Less filling!

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2014, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-guess-we-better-talk-about-jeb-bush/684981/85 "2014-04-03T11:24:47Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> … So begins the snide comments from future Hillary Clinton voters.

Begins???  
Where you been, WillFarnaby???

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2014, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-guess-we-better-talk-about-jeb-bush/684981/86 "2014-04-03T11:29:03Z")

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> [@2ManyTacos](#):
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> If we get to the point in which the best this country can do in ‘16 is a fuckin’ retread of Clinton v. Bush, well…I guess that I’ll become even more disenchanted with our political state of affairs than I already am.

For a minute there, I thought you were going to say you would leave the country, and I could make an Alec Baldwin joke, but you didn’t, thanks for ruining my joke **2ManyTacos**. (I forgot which Republican celebrity said the same about if Obama got re-elected.)

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**Author:** ![Katriona](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/katriona/32/113_2.png) [@Katriona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katriona)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2014, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-guess-we-better-talk-about-jeb-bush/684981/87 "2014-04-03T13:24:35Z")

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> [@Yllaria](#):
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> If you’re not sypmathetic to the Tea Party, would that make you a Coffee Drinker or CDR? (Coffe-Drinking Republican)

Coffee Party: [http://www.coffeepartyusa.com](http://www.coffeepartyusa.com)

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2014, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-guess-we-better-talk-about-jeb-bush/684981/88 "2014-04-03T14:27:12Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]

If the Dems nominate a woman in 2016, mightn’t the Pubs feel obligated to do likewise?

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> [@Mr\_Quatro](#):
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> No the Republicans learned their lesson with Sarah Palin … I think not.

If the lesson the Republicans learned from Sarah Palin was “Don’t nominate women” rather than “Vet your veep candidates sufficiently to find out which ones are ninnies before putting one on the ticket,” then they’re even dopier than I thought.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2014, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-guess-we-better-talk-about-jeb-bush/684981/89 "2014-04-03T15:55:07Z")

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They didn’t learn about vetting running mates from the Dan Quayle incident, either. So don’t count on it.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Quatro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc8723/32.png) [@Mr\_Quatro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Quatro)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2014, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-guess-we-better-talk-about-jeb-bush/684981/90 "2014-04-03T16:31:08Z")

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Republicans and GM have the same problem … Forget the past and get on with the future.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2014, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-guess-we-better-talk-about-jeb-bush/684981/91 "2014-04-03T16:37:55Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> They didn’t learn about vetting running mates from the Dan Quayle incident, either. So don’t count on it.

Compared to Palin, Quayle was Winston Churchill. At least he had Senate experience and that unfortunate “potato” incident was quite overblown.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2014, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-guess-we-better-talk-about-jeb-bush/684981/92 "2014-04-03T19:07:01Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Compared to Palin, Quayle was Winston Churchill.

Tru dat.

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> that unfortunate “potato” incident was quite overblown.

This would have been true if it had been one isolated instance. But the string of Quaylisms of similar foot-in-mouth level (“Happy campers,” “what a waste it is to lose one’s mind,” etc.) that strongly suggested his brain wasn’t firing on all cylinders was pretty extensive.

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**Author:** ![mikecu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@mikecu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecu)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-guess-we-better-talk-about-jeb-bush/684981/93 "2014-04-04T00:37:38Z")

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I think that Jeb was a good governor.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2014, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-guess-we-better-talk-about-jeb-bush/684981/94 "2014-04-07T15:05:25Z")

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> [@42fish](#):
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> If the lesson the Republicans learned from Sarah Palin was “Don’t nominate women” rather than “Vet your veep candidates sufficiently to find out which ones are ninnies before putting one on the ticket,” then they’re even dopier than I thought.

Well the evidence of the Stupid Republican Idea of the Day thread is quite convincing – “dopey” doesn’t even BEGIN to describe Republicans. I personally thjink “batshit insane” is on the mark.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2014, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-guess-we-better-talk-about-jeb-bush/684981/95 "2014-04-07T15:13:58Z")

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Won’t someone think of the bats!

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2014, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-guess-we-better-talk-about-jeb-bush/684981/96 "2014-04-07T20:54:04Z")

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If Jeb keeps straying from the approved script [like he did on Sunday](http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/06/us-usa-politics-bush-idUSBREA350P620140406) talking about immigration, the enthusiasm for him making a run for POTUS will evaporate quickly.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2014, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-guess-we-better-talk-about-jeb-bush/684981/97 "2014-04-07T22:15:43Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> If Jeb keeps straying from the approved script [like he did on Sunday](http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/06/us-usa-politics-bush-idUSBREA350P620140406) talking about immigration, the enthusiasm for him making a run for POTUS will evaporate quickly.

The problem is that the GOP has no “approved script” there, because it has no consensus, and a Pub can hardly say a single sentence about immigration without pissing off either the TP wing or the bizcon wing.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2014, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-guess-we-better-talk-about-jeb-bush/684981/98 "2014-04-07T22:18:19Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Won’t someone think of the bats!

[What?](http://howtorockstar.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/rick-scott-is-bat-boy1.jpg) Oh. No, you want [this other thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=715453), also Florida-related.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2014, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-guess-we-better-talk-about-jeb-bush/684981/99 "2014-04-07T22:19:35Z")

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> [@mikecu](#):
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> I think that Jeb was a good governor.

Care to explain why you think so?

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2014, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-i-guess-we-better-talk-about-jeb-bush/684981/100 "2014-04-08T05:26:17Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> The problem is that the GOP has no “approved script” there, because it has no consensus, and a Pub can hardly say a single sentence about immigration without pissing off either the TP wing or the bizcon wing.

I would take the position that pissing off the bizcon wing on immigration is more likely to be survivable than pissing off the TP wing. Jeb is waaaaay too moderate to survive the Republican primary season.

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