# Well, if you found a link, I guess you win **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 9, 2004, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-if-you-found-a-link-i-guess-you-win/223620 "2004-01-09T11:25:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-if-you-found-a-link-i-guess-you-win/223620/1 "2004-01-09T11:25:22Z")
I won’t even attempt to link stuff, you’ve seen it all. I understand you hate certain political parties. I understand you hate some religions. I get it. Also, I know the Pit is where people go to rant and rave. Fine. I’d rather this forum than someone expressing rage in a mall with a gun. (Just don’t try that shit at my house, I am armed heavily.) I’m a conservative Catholic. Big surprise, huh? 😃 For every site you link bashing my view I can find 2 that refutes you. For every 2 you site, I can find 4. This is never ending pablum that allows those with weak arguments (more likely weak minds) to try to keep thier little world make sense. Yes, this applies to the conservative among us, too. So. I hearby Pit everyone that abandons the basic moors they claim to live by through finding obscure websites to quote, instead of trying to convince us you’re right. AFAIK, I’ve never bashed Clinton while arguing a point where I thought he was wrong. And I, for one, don’t give any credence to those who say “Fuck Bush, never did anything good.” Grow up and tell us how you’d do it better. Note to far-left: was that “touchy-feely” enough? ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-if-you-found-a-link-i-guess-you-win/223620/2 "2004-01-09T11:30:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by duffer \* > \*\*So. I hearby Pit everyone that abandons the basic moors they claim to live by \*\* I live by some moors. Quite nice to go walking on. Don’t know if they’re basic or not. do you mean mores? ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-if-you-found-a-link-i-guess-you-win/223620/3 "2004-01-09T11:37:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by duffer \* > \*\*So. I hearby Pit everyone that abandons the basic moors they claim to live by \*\* I live by some moors. Quite nice to go walking on. Don’t know if they’re basic or not. do you mean mores? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-if-you-found-a-link-i-guess-you-win/223620/4 "2004-01-09T11:42:15Z")
Uhhhh, how does finding quotes on websites equal abandoning the basic mores they claim to live by? ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-if-you-found-a-link-i-guess-you-win/223620/5 "2004-01-09T11:42:44Z")
I lived by some Moors, but they abandoned _me_ - they went off and invaded Iberia before we could get to know each other. Nice pigeon pie, though. ---
**Author:** ![Mycroft\_Holmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a5b964/32.png) [@Mycroft\_Holmes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mycroft_Holmes)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-if-you-found-a-link-i-guess-you-win/223620/6 "2004-01-09T11:43:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by One And Only Wanderers \* > \*\*I live by some moors. Quite nice to go walking on. Don’t know if they’re basic or not. > > do you mean mores? \*\* My moors only show up around the beginning of December, when “Sinterklaas” visits the Netherlands. They’re called “Zwarte Pieten”, but they are moors nonetheless. And they wear those cool moorish pants. Oh, and **duffer**? This: For every 2 you site, I can find 4. should be **cite** and not **site**. **Site** is not now, and never will be a verb. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-if-you-found-a-link-i-guess-you-win/223620/7 "2004-01-09T11:52:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mycroft Holmes \* > \*\*My moors only show up around the beginning of December, when “Sinterklaas” visits the Netherlands. They’re called “Zwarte Pieten”, but they are moors nonetheless. And they wear those cool moorish pants. > > Oh, and **duffer**? This: > For every 2 you site, I can find 4. > should be **cite** and not **site**. **Site** is not now, and never will be a verb. \*\* I’ll use this to tie up some things. Moors/Mores, I thought you would know what I meant. MH, yes I meant sites, not cites. Thought that was obvious when I mentioned websites. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-if-you-found-a-link-i-guess-you-win/223620/8 "2004-01-09T12:08:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mycroft Holmes \* > **Site** is not now, and never will be a verb. _tr.v._ **sit·ed, sit·ing, sites** To situate or locate on a site: sited the power plant by the river. ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-if-you-found-a-link-i-guess-you-win/223620/9 "2004-01-09T12:13:53Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by duffer \* > \*\* And I, for one, don’t give any credence to those who say “Fuck Bush, never did anything good.” Grow up and tell us how you’d do it better._\* This is a stupid argument in itself. It’s like saying “Sure, Mussolini was a fascist dictator, but he did _some_ good things - like [making the trains run on time](http://www.snopes.com/history/govern/trains.htm).” Big fucking deal. ---
**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-if-you-found-a-link-i-guess-you-win/223620/10 "2004-01-09T12:14:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by duffer \* > \*\*I’ll use this to tie up some things. Moors/Mores, I thought you would know what I meant. > > MH, yes I meant sites, not cites. Thought that was obvious when I mentioned websites. \*\* Then you meant “for every 2 sites you cite, I can find 4” ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-if-you-found-a-link-i-guess-you-win/223620/11 "2004-01-09T12:16:27Z")
cazzle, that’s what I meant ---
**Author:** ![Mycroft\_Holmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a5b964/32.png) [@Mycroft\_Holmes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mycroft_Holmes)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-if-you-found-a-link-i-guess-you-win/223620/12 "2004-01-09T12:24:36Z")
QUOTE]\*Originally posted by Mangetout \* \*\*_tr.v._ **sit·ed, sit·ing, sites** To situate or locate on a site: sited the power plant by the river. \*\* [/QUOTE] Oooooh, you big mean Grammar-Nazi! I meant to say: site is not now, and never will be, an intransitive verb. Exactly! ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-if-you-found-a-link-i-guess-you-win/223620/13 "2004-01-09T12:43:33Z")
Tee Hee ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-if-you-found-a-link-i-guess-you-win/223620/14 "2004-01-09T12:49:36Z")
Duffer, it isn’t how many links, it’s what the links say and how they got their information. > [@](#): > > This is never ending pablum that allows those with weak arguments (more likely weak minds) to try to keep thier little world make sense. Yes, this applies to the conservative among us, too. so, backing up your points is weak, but blindly accepting peoples word without asking for evidence is a strong mind? ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-if-you-found-a-link-i-guess-you-win/223620/15 "2004-01-09T12:57:38Z")
Is the more sub[/sub] to the OP that I’m not aware of? ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-if-you-found-a-link-i-guess-you-win/223620/16 "2004-01-09T12:59:28Z")
Is _there_\* more sub[/sub] to the OP that I’m not aware of? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-if-you-found-a-link-i-guess-you-win/223620/17 "2004-01-09T13:03:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by duffer \* > **Moors/Mores, I thought you would know what I meant.** I’m so sorry, it’s the Moops. The correct answer is the Moops. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-if-you-found-a-link-i-guess-you-win/223620/18 "2004-01-09T13:34:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by World Eater \* > \*_Is there_ more sub[/sub] to the OP that I’m not aware of? \*\* No, I’m referring to the cites I’ve seen to places like [Moveon.org](http://Moveon.org) that are never challenged, but mention [NewsMax.com](http://NewsMax.com) and you get flamed. The point of the OP was, I can find a site to match an opposing viewpoint site easily. I just hate the lack of an argument being replaced by an obscure website that tries to make the argument. ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-if-you-found-a-link-i-guess-you-win/223620/19 "2004-01-09T13:50:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by duffer \* > **No, I’m referring to the cites I’ve seen to places like [Moveon.org](http://Moveon.org) that are never challenged…** I think it’s time for you to either produce some cites, or fuck off. You’re the one who bragged in your OP that you could easily find cites. So do it. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-if-you-found-a-link-i-guess-you-win/223620/20 "2004-01-09T14:08:58Z")
What the hell are you talking about? This isn’t a grammar-nazi point, this is an important rhetorical point: > [@](#): > > I’m referring to the cites I’ve seen to places like [Moveon.org](http://Moveon.org) that are never challenged DON’T USE THE PASSIVE VOICE HERE. Because cites aren’t challenged by the impersonal void of cyberspace: they’re challenged by (hopefully informed) forum members. Don’t like cites to [moveon.org](http://moveon.org)? Challenge them your own damn self! The whole point behind cites is to force people to back up their _factual statements_. This prevents me from posting that, say, the Catholic church has been responsible for more prenatal than abortion doctors have ever been, and getting away with it. Were that true, it’d certainly cast a pall over the church’s opposition to abortion; fortunately, ou can holler, “cite?” and force me to back down from the ridiculous assertion. The constant demand for cites is one of my favorite things about this message board. It keeps people honest. Daniel [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-if-you-found-a-link-i-guess-you-win/223620.md?page=2)