# Well said, Mr Trump.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [May 23, 2017, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315 "2017-05-23T23:02:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/21 "2017-05-24T01:26:10Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> I’ve given Trump some stick before, but I’ve got to give credit where it’s due: he labelled the Manchester bomber ‘[an evil loser](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40010706)’. And he’s absolutely spot on, and his terminology will resonate with his electorate.

Indeed, Trumps intellect is second only to his eloquence.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/22 "2017-05-24T01:50:45Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> I’ve given Trump some stick before, but I’ve got to give credit where it’s due: he labelled the Manchester bomber ‘[an evil loser](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40010706)’. And he’s absolutely spot on, and his terminology will resonate with his electorate.

If this hit you as a profound insight into terrorism, it’s no wonder you voted for him.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/23 "2017-05-24T01:52:54Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> He’ll get a prize for NOT wearing his underpants on his head during dinner.

[“Donald, don’t take the cork off the fork.”](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9eJ0iGZ7Ms8)

Stranger

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/24 "2017-05-24T02:13:44Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> He’ll get a prize for NOT wearing his underpants on his head during dinner.

Well said. 🆒

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**Author:** ![cornflakes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9d8465/32.png) [@cornflakes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cornflakes)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/25 "2017-05-24T02:29:38Z")

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Yes. It’s also nice to be nice to the nice.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/26 "2017-05-24T02:39:38Z")

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Did he call them “Radical Islamic Terrorists”? If not, then his words mean nothing.

Seriously, “evil losers”? Losers? This is the way a goddamned statesman talks? Did he make an L with his thumb and forefinger and hold it to his forehead?

Trump apparently evaluates everyone on a somewhat imprecise metric. Either they’re “losers” or they’re doing a “terrific job.” That he picked the more correct of the two options available to him in this instance is hardly reason to congratulate him.

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**Author:** ![HoneyBadgerDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honeybadgerdc/32/1033_2.png) [@HoneyBadgerDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoneyBadgerDC)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/27 "2017-05-24T02:43:16Z")

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Loser is probably a good term to use. No one likes being labeled a loser.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/28 "2017-05-24T02:43:26Z")

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Trump has the vocabulary of a parrot.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/29 "2017-05-24T02:47:20Z")

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> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#):
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> These are the worst losers in history. The absolute worst. Sad.!

You better believe it. The US has the best losers!!

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**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/30 "2017-05-24T03:01:57Z")

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Don’t you people understand? Trump calls everyone a loser! This time he called them an “evil” loser, which is totally different and much more meaningful.

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**Author:** ![fervour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@fervour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fervour)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/31 "2017-05-24T03:15:27Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> I’ve given Trump some stick before, but I’ve got to give credit where it’s due. . .

I’m going to have to ask for a cite. Because all I remember of your Trump posts is you fellating trump’s dick. (That might merit me a warning, but I won’t understand why. Because as a gay I don’t think there’s anything wrong with fellating a dick.)

But you sure do seem to love Trump’s dick. I guess its just so short and cute that you can’t help yourself.

------but I digress. Please post citations of you giving Trump “some stick”.

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**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/32 "2017-05-24T03:22:53Z")

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I’m not even American but I cringe with you.

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/33 "2017-05-24T05:14:13Z")

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> [@Isamu](#):
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> I’m not even American but I cringe with you.

That’s OK, the OP isn’t American, either… (I know, right? Almost like there should be a warning label.)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/34 "2017-05-24T05:21:06Z")

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If Justin Beiber had called the terrorist an evil loser, I’d cut him some slack. He’s a dimwitted pop star.

I have higher standards for the President of the United States. If Trump can’t produce eloquence on his own, he should hire somebody to write his lines for him. And then he should memorize those lines and learn how to fake a little sincerity when he delivers them.

We know Trump’s never going to be a great President. Or even a good President. But could he at least put some effort in and try to rise up to being a mediocre President?

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/35 "2017-05-24T06:35:26Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> Did he call them “Radical Islamic Terrorists”? If not, then his words mean nothing.
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> Seriously, “evil losers”? Losers? This is the way a goddamned statesman talks? Did he make an L with his thumb and forefinger and hold it to his forehead?
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> Trump apparently evaluates everyone on a somewhat imprecise metric. Either they’re “losers” or they’re doing a “terrific job.” That he picked the more correct of the two options available to him in this instance is hardly reason to congratulate him.

Eloquent, he is not, but his supporters will love it. Sad!

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**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/36 "2017-05-24T06:42:25Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> I’ve given Trump some stick before, but I’ve got to give credit where it’s due: he labelled the Manchester bomber ‘[an evil loser](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40010706)’. And he’s absolutely spot on, and his terminology will resonate with his electorate.

Trump’s little speech does not merit praise.  
At very best it might hope to escape derision.

To me it’s worthy of an eye-roll or a shake of the head, akin to GWB’s “homicide bombers”.  
He was doing OK, until he insisted on Trumping it all up by returning to his gauche and tiresomely limited manner of speaking.

His sin is twofold.  
Firstly, his insistance on vomiting up his favorite theme of winners and losers only trivialized a solemn occasion.  
Secondly, in doing so, he turned this tragedy into yet another occasion to draw attention to himself and how _he_ sees the world. Which you seem all to willing to go along with.

If you absolutely must use this terrible occasion to give props to your man, maybe you should reference those parts of his speech where he appeared to be expressing an uncharacteristically charitable attitude toward the religion of Islam. (Perhaps diplomatically, given his location and present company at the time.) Or where he spoke about working toward achieving peace and cooperation between Israel and Palestine.  
But then maybe that wouldn’t resonate so well with his electorate?

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/37 "2017-05-24T06:46:44Z")

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> [@Not\_Carlson](#):
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> Secondly, in doing so, he turned this tragedy into yet another occasion to draw attention to himself and how _he_ sees the world. Which you seem all to willing to go along with.

He’s the President of the United States. People all over the world pay attention to him and speech he makes.

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**Author:** ![UDS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecae2f/32.png) [@UDS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UDS)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/38 "2017-05-24T07:15:45Z")

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> [@Enola\_Gay](#):
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> He’s the President of the United States. People all over the world pay attention to him and speech he makes.

Which, when he’s such a bad speaker, is not an advantage.

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/39 "2017-05-24T07:20:59Z")

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> [@UDS](#):
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> Which, when he’s such a bad speaker, is not an advantage.

It’s why so many of us have national shame, but all he needs to do to get attention is to open his mouth. People always pay attention to what US Presidents say… unfortunately.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/40 "2017-05-24T07:32:27Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> This works better as sarcasm.

It’s not sarcasm?

“Evil loser” is like a line from an Austin Powers movie. Did he do the L thing with his fingers on his forehead when he said it?

I mean, fuck me, it’s along the lines of calling something “lame” or “gay”.

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