# Well said, Mr Trump. **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [May 23, 2017, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315 "2017-05-23T23:02:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/61 "2017-05-24T14:30:49Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > I’ve given Trump some stick before, but I’ve got to give credit where it’s due: he labelled the Manchester bomber ‘[an evil loser](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40010706)’. And he’s absolutely spot on, and his terminology will resonate with his electorate. Yes, his pairing of ‘losers’ with ‘evil’ is certainly a master stroke. You are right…it will resonate with his electorate. But then, just about everything he utters or tweets resonates with those folks, so this is just par for the course after a hard day of wordsmithing gems like ‘evil losers’. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/62 "2017-05-24T15:13:49Z")
> [@Not\_Carlson](#): > > Well, don’t go feeling you need to concede too much. > The last two of **Quartz’s** own cites are of him suggesting that people need to lay off poor Mr.Twump. You might try reading the full post rather than just the title. ---
**Author:** ![sich\_hinaufwinden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@sich\_hinaufwinden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sich_hinaufwinden)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/63 "2017-05-24T15:16:14Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > …Trump won the election in part by speaking in clear, comprehensible, language… > [@running\_coach](#): > > This works better as sarcasm. This quote from up-thread works well as a response here… ---
**Author:** ![sich\_hinaufwinden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@sich\_hinaufwinden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sich_hinaufwinden)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/64 "2017-05-24T15:17:28Z")
…as does this one. > [@Quartz](#): > > …Trump won the election in part by speaking in clear, comprehensible, language… > [@Quartz](#): > > Comments like that do your cause no good. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/65 "2017-05-24T15:37:33Z")
> [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > The attack was a tremendous success from the terrorist perspective. It certainly caused a great amount of terror. So while it’s certainly “evil”, I’m not sure “loser” applies. I have to disagree. IMNSHO, it has caused a great amount of anger, not terror. Any time a terrorist attack occurs, it incites anger and the terrorists are too damn stupid to realize that their goals aren’t happening. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/66 "2017-05-24T15:39:23Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > You might try reading the full post rather than just the title. Full post the 1st: > [@Trump and the hostile press](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-the-hostile-press/776902/1): > > I caught part of Trump’s press conference. I must own that despite Trump being Trump, I have some sympathy for him in this regard; many of the press corps actively campaigned against him, and now they’re publishing unsubstantiated allegations. > > Has there ever been an incoming president who has faced such a hostile press corps? If so, what did he do about it? Full post the 2nd: > [@Are all the Trump threads diminishing the Straight Dope Brand?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-all-the-trump-threads-diminishing-the-straight-dope-brand/780018/1): > > There are a lot of threads about Trump. Most of them negative. Many of those threads are false or attempted slams (no, Trump is not functionally illiterate). A casual visitor might well look at the Dope and decry us as bigoted moonbats. > > I am concerned that the concerted unwarranted attacks on Trump are diminishing the utility and brand of the Straight Dope. I don’t like the man (how sad is it that I actually have to say that?) but we’re supposed to be about fighting ignorance, not promoting it. > > Sample threads in which I have participated: > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=819113](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=819113) > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=819179](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=819179) > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=819214](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=819214) > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=819190](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=819190) > > I do not know how the Dope can overcome this; I leave that to better minds. Summary: “Lay off Mr.Twump!” ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/67 "2017-05-24T16:33:10Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > I have to disagree. IMNSHO, it has caused a great amount of anger, not terror. Any time a terrorist attack occurs, it incites anger and the terrorists are too damn stupid to realize that their goals aren’t happening. Their goal is to further divide the muslim world from the rest of the world. Their goal is for the western world to oppress muslims in their countries. Their goal is for us to come to them, and fight on their territory. Their goals are being realized quite well, unfortunately, we have many who are supposedly on our side assisting them with their goals by responding to the terrorist attacks with anger. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/68 "2017-05-24T16:49:00Z")
> [@Not\_Carlson](#): > > Summary: “Lay off Mr.Twump!” > [@](#): > > How fucking dare anyone out there make fun of Donald after all he has been through! > > HE’S A HUMAN! (ah! ooh!) What you don’t realize is that Donald is making you all this money and all you do is write a bunch of crap about him. > > Perez Hilton talked about professionalism and said if Donald was a professional he would’ve pulled it off no matter what. > > Speaking of professionalism, when is it professional to publicly bash someone who is going through a hard time. > > Leave Donald alone. Please! > Leave Donald Trump alone right now! I mean it! > > Anyone that has a problem with him you deal with me, because he is not well right now. > > LEAVE HIM ALONE! That about right? ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315/69 "2017-05-24T16:52:24Z")
> [@Enola\_Gay](#): > > It’s why so many of us have national shame, but all he needs to do to get attention is to open his mouth. People always pay attention to what US Presidents say… unfortunately. He doesn’t even have to open his mouth. As long as he can get his diminutive digits onto a smartphone he can shit-tweet out ever random thought that passes through his head while his brain tries to forceably evacuate itself through his colon at 3 am. > [@Quartz](#): > > Because the bombers aren’t sufficiently sophisticated to understand Obama’s language? These people are in every way losers. They fail at life and they fail in death. > > Trump won the election in part by speaking in clear, comprehensible, language. Perhaps you should reflect on that? Actually, the suicide bomber does not seem to have “failed at death”. He killed himself and took twenty-odd people with him, as well as gaining publicity for himself, which if he were able to express an opinion now he’d probably consider that a win. Furthermore, dismissively referring to terrorists as “evil losers” isn’t simply obtuse, it is dangerous. If you refuse to understand your enemy you’ll never defeat him; or, from Sun Tzu’s most oft-repeated proverb, “If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles… if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.” Defeating radical Islamic terrorism–a simple phrase that your hero-in-chief seems peculiarly unable to speak–means understanding how and why people become radicalized, particularly self-radicalization in liberal Western nations away from the cultural influence of Islamic governments. Dismissing them as “evil losers” is like classifying a serial killer as a “stupid vandal”. As far as Trump speaking in “speaking in clear, comprehensible, language” on the campaign trail or elsewhere, I’d like to see evidence that he is capable of speaking in complete, intelligible sentences for the span of a couple of minutes without the help of a teleprompter, because the available evidence suggests otherwise. For instance, on the topic of the nuclear triad and the role of nuclear weapons–one of the most important policy issues not just for the United States but for the world–[Here](http://www.politico.com/blogs/live-from-the-venetian/2015/12/2015-gop-debate-rubio-trump-nuclear-triad-216828) is what Donald Trump had to say. Not only was he not “clear” or “comprehensible”, he comes off as being either stupidly ill-informed or dangerously obsessed, or perhaps both. And frankly, the people who supported Trump don’t want clear language or comprehensible positions or policy; they want to project their own needs and desires into his trash word salad of jumbled vocabulary, which is why so many Trump boosters are upset that the proposed AHCA bill will remove coverage because they didn’t interpret his mishmash stream-of-consciousness rantings as meaning that. We’re told that we are supposed to take Trump figuratively but not literally, but in fact, there is nothing to take that you couldn’t get from a four year old trying out random new words without any context or definition. But please, provide counterexamples of Trump’s masterful speaking abilities and “clear, comprehensible language”. This I want to see, because all I’ve seen is TelePrompter Trump and Gibberish Free Association Trump. I want to see some Eloquently Knowledgeable Trump. Stranger [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-said-mr-trump/787315.md?page=3)