# "Well, Star Wars was lame." **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 22, 2005, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-star-wars-was-lame/304969 "2005-05-22T18:12:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![jimpatro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9e5f3/32.png) [@jimpatro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimpatro)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-star-wars-was-lame/304969/21 "2005-05-23T04:09:10Z")
Actually I would invoke Joseph Campbell to support the classic story telling that is Star Wars. ---
**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-star-wars-was-lame/304969/22 "2005-05-23T04:11:21Z")
> [@Tuckerfan](#): > > Vitally important question: Which version of Star Wars were you watching? Because if she dissed the Special Edition version, there’s still hope, but if she dissed the pre-Crayola version, then I’d be rethinking the relationship. If she has to ask who the good guys are, I doubt she cares overmuch about Greedo shooting first. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Sengkelat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Sengkelat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sengkelat)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-star-wars-was-lame/304969/23 "2005-05-23T04:13:52Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > I too think that the original movies are insufferably lame, but the newer ones (haven’t seen the newest yet, however) aren’t quite as bad because there’s some character development, and the cast is more attractive The newer ones are better? Yes, and white is darker than black, and 1 is greater than 10. It’s all so clear now. ---
**Author:** ![Spatial\_Rift\_47](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a8b319/32.png) [@Spatial\_Rift\_47](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spatial_Rift_47)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-star-wars-was-lame/304969/24 "2005-05-23T06:28:28Z")
Yeah, and the dark side of the force is all about peace and harmony with all living things. ---
**Author:** ![Caught\_Work](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/919ad9/32.png) [@Caught\_Work](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caught_Work)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-star-wars-was-lame/304969/25 "2005-05-23T11:42:20Z")
> [@Tuckerfan](#): > > Vitally important question: Which version of Star Wars were you watching? Because if she dissed the Special Edition version, there’s still hope, but if she dissed the pre-Crayola version, then I’d be rethinking the relationship. A New Hope vs. A No Hope ? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Unkempt\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b782af/32.png) [@The\_Unkempt\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Unkempt_One)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-star-wars-was-lame/304969/26 "2005-05-23T13:02:31Z")
> [@Tuckerfan](#): > > Vitally important question: Which version of Star Wars were you watching? Because if she dissed the Special Edition version, there’s still hope, but if she dissed the pre-Crayola version, then I’d be rethinking the relationship. We wathced the new version that was recently released on DVD. However, as suggested earlier, last night we watched The Empire Strikes Back. She seemed to enjoy this movie quite a bit more, and there were a lot less questions asked. I thnk that she was actually interested enough in this movie to pay attention rather than ask quetions the whole time. There may be hope yet… ---
**Author:** ![Rocketeer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocketeer/32/4437_2.png) [@Rocketeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rocketeer)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-star-wars-was-lame/304969/27 "2005-05-23T13:33:51Z")
…another marriage saved by **Empire**! ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-star-wars-was-lame/304969/28 "2005-05-23T13:55:50Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > … I too think that the original movies are insufferably lame, … And that stupid **King Kong** , who wants to see an old black & white movie anyway, probubly sucks. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Chairman\_Pow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Chairman\_Pow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chairman_Pow)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-star-wars-was-lame/304969/29 "2005-05-24T03:30:24Z")
> [@jimpatro](#): > > Actually I would invoke Joseph Campbell to support the classic story telling that is Star Wars. While I would agree with you, watch the Rambo DVD with the screenwriter interview. I don’t want to spoil it, but it’s an absolute riot. ---
**Author:** ![SkeptiJess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@SkeptiJess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkeptiJess)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-star-wars-was-lame/304969/30 "2005-05-24T18:34:55Z")
> [@Maendosa](#): > > Yes, we do. We also can appreciate quality sci-fi, and recognize Star Wars for what it is - a mediocre telling of the story of a ‘hero’ (see Joseph Campbell) that caught cult status. They **weren’t** and **aren’t** good stories, let alone good movies. Well, thank you for clearing that up, Mr. Authority On What Constitutes A Good Story and/ Or A Good Movie. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-star-wars-was-lame/304969/31 "2005-05-28T02:14:25Z")
> [@BMalion](#): > > And that stupid **King Kong** , who wants to see an old black & white movie anyway, probubly sucks. :rolleyes: It does, but then so will the new one. ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-star-wars-was-lame/304969/32 "2005-05-28T02:23:22Z")
I am also baffled by the “Are these the good guys?” comments. Can she not see the Storm Trooper outfits? Does the “Imperial March” not sound like “bad guy” music? Is the absurdly tall, jet-black-suited, iron-lunging, force-choking, scary-mask-wearing, deep-throat-talking dude they call “Lord” not a bit of a give-away as to what side of the good vs. evil dichotomy the characters in question have cast their lots with? ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-star-wars-was-lame/304969/33 "2005-05-28T02:44:25Z")
> [@Taber](#): > > If she has to ask who the good guys are, I doubt she cares overmuch about Greedo shooting first. 😛 Well, I’ll avoid mentioning about how that’s essential for Han’s character development, and simply point out that there’s so much more _crap_ in the “enhanced” version that it causes the film to lose the “tightness” it once had. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-star-wars-was-lame/304969.md?page=1)