# Well, that about wraps it up for Amazon **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 1, 2017, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-about-wraps-it-up-for-amazon/787896 "2017-06-01T23:20:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-about-wraps-it-up-for-amazon/787896/81 "2017-06-06T22:52:26Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > A cite for what? If you’re disputing Doug’s claim that Amazon has lockers in 50+ cities, you’d have to take it up with Amazon, that’s a nearly direct quote from the wiki article that was included in what quoted and it comes (linked) right from Amazon’s page about the lockers, with a map showing dots on the cities with lockers. > > If you have a problem with something else, you’ll have to be more specific. He said “only available”, which is not true, IME. ---
**Author:** ![Debillw3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Debillw3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debillw3)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-about-wraps-it-up-for-amazon/787896/82 "2017-06-06T23:03:30Z")
The thing to keep in mind is that every number over 50 qualifies as “50+”. They could be in every city in America and they’re still in “50+ cities”. But **Doug** also didn’t say “50+” (which is a direct quote)–he said “a little over”, which has a drastically different meaning. There are 15 cities/towns/municipalities with them in the region of my ZIP alone. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-about-wraps-it-up-for-amazon/787896/83 "2017-06-06T23:07:29Z")
Plus if they’re in the fifty largest cities, they’re probably accessible by many more people than if they were in 5000 rural locations. I suspect that the locker locations were chosen based on data analysis of Amazon customers in the vicinity. ---
**Author:** ![Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tastes_of_chocolate/32/3232_2.png) [@Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tastes_of_Chocolate)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-about-wraps-it-up-for-amazon/787896/84 "2017-06-07T02:51:57Z")
People keep mentioning Amazon lockers. I’ve got them near me, but unless the item is something I can’t get anywhere else, why would i want to do that? I could just got to a store and buy it (since i have to got to drive to use a locker anyway). One of the big conveniences of online shopping is delivery TO ME, not to someplace I have to go pick it up from. Amazon delivery. I don’t care if they are gig economy jobs. They are paid by Amazon, so I will hold Amazon responsible for their actions. I had an Amazon driver deliver a package, by opening my screen door, and tossing it inside, onto my floor. No doorbell, no knocking. What the hell? You don’t get to open my door without an invite. Get the hell out! And I totally held Amazon responsible for their driver’s action. Amazon was paying them, Amazon can make sure they behave responsibly. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-about-wraps-it-up-for-amazon/787896/85 "2017-06-07T05:22:02Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > He said “only available”, which is not true, IME. No, he said “only available in a little over 50 cities” which is nearly exactly what Amazon’s own cite says. I’d go find the quote on the Amazon cite, but I refuse to go back to that post, click on the wiki link, click on the Amazon link and C&P it back to here for what, so you can say ‘ok’. Go do that yourself. There was exactly zero reason for you to call that into question. If you know different, instead of beating around the bush by asking for a cite (IOW taking multiple posts to say ‘which is not true’), why not just come right out and say it and offer up your own proof? And for that matter, what do you mean “IME”?\* I’d like a cite on you having experienced more than 50 Amazon lockers\*. PS: just to cover all the bases, it says “50+”: it could be 3000 cities. The word “only” was to imply that it’s not that many. I’m not sure what you were getting. Perhaps you could elaborate. PPS, literally the only way that statement could be proven wrong is if Amazon has lockers in \<50 cities. ---
**Author:** ![Debillw3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Debillw3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debillw3)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-about-wraps-it-up-for-amazon/787896/86 "2017-06-07T06:19:26Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > No, he said “only available in a little over 50 cities” which is nearly exactly what Amazon’s own cite says. I’d go find the quote on the Amazon cite, but I refuse to go back to that post, click on the wiki link, click on the Amazon link and C&P it back to here for what, so you can say ‘ok’. As I already said: > [@Debillw3](#): > > The thing to keep in mind is that every number over 50 qualifies as “50+”. They could be in every city in America and they’re still in “50+ cities”. > > But **Doug** also didn’t say “50+” (which is a direct quote)–he said “a little over”, which has a drastically different meaning. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-about-wraps-it-up-for-amazon/787896/87 "2017-06-07T06:59:06Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > No, he said “only available in a little over 50 cities” which is nearly exactly what Amazon’s own cite says. I’d go find the quote on the Amazon cite, but I refuse to go back to that post, click on the wiki link, click on the Amazon link and C&P it back to here for what, so you can say ‘ok’. Go do that yourself. There was exactly zero reason for you to call that into question. If you know different, instead of beating around the bush by asking for a cite (IOW taking multiple posts to say ‘which is not true’), why not just come right out and say it and offer up your own proof? > > PPS, literally the only way that statement could be proven wrong is if Amazon has lockers in \<50 cities. I DON’T LIVE IN A CITY AT ALL, AND WE HAVE AMAZON LOCKERS. Doug made a comment that they were “only available” in 50+ cities, which is CLEARLY not true. (Sorry for the yelling, but jeez.) ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-about-wraps-it-up-for-amazon/787896/88 "2017-06-07T07:09:48Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > I DON’T LIVE IN A CITY AT ALL, AND WE HAVE AMAZON LOCKERS. Doug made a comment that they were “only available” in 50+ cities, which is CLEARLY not true. > > (Sorry for the yelling, but jeez.) If it’s available in 51 or more cities then it’s “only available in 50+ cities”. The sentence may have been a bit clunky too for you to understand, but it’s still correct, as has been explained previosly and I have no idea why you not living in a city plays in to this at all. I’m sorry for your misunderstanding. Here, let’s just fix it. Amazon lockers are available in more than 50 cities where D’Anconia lives. It’s clearly what Doug meant. Okay, move on. Anyone else that wants to beat their head against the wall with D’a, have fun. (ETA, I got a word out of order in that first sentence, if doesn’t make sense, please don’t derail this thread, start a new one and I’ll clarify it for you). ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-about-wraps-it-up-for-amazon/787896/89 "2017-06-07T07:15:42Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > If it’s available in 51 or more cities then it’s “only available in 50+ cities”. The sentence may have been a bit clunky too for you to understand, but it’s still correct, as has been explained previosly and I have no idea why you not living in a city plays in to this at all. > I’m sorry for your misunderstanding. > > Here, let’s just fix it. Amazon lockers are available in more than 50 cities where D’Anconia lives. It’s clearly what Doug meant. Okay, move on. > > Anyone else that wants to beat their head against the wall with D’a, have fun. > > (ETA, I got a word out of order in that first sentence, if doesn’t make sense, please don’t derail this thread, start a new one and I’ll clarify it for you). I will try to explain it to you using smaller words. Only available in “X” number of cities isn’t true, since I don’t live anywhere near a city, and we have at least two locations. Do you understand? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-about-wraps-it-up-for-amazon/787896/90 "2017-06-07T11:25:57Z")
y’all have fun with that. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-about-wraps-it-up-for-amazon/787896/91 "2017-06-07T12:14:52Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > I will try to explain it to you using smaller words. Only available in “X” number of cities isn’t true, since I don’t live anywhere near a city, and we have at least two locations. > > Do you understand? Amazon’s [own words.](https://www.amazon.com/b/ref=amb_link_366591722_2?_encoding=UTF8&node=6442600011) > [@](#): > > Over 1,800+ Locations Across 50+ Cities Either you live in a place that Amazon considers close enough to be part of a city or Amazon’s definition of a city is a smaller place that your definition. Or Amazon prefers the term _city_ over _area_ or _place._ You are truly a pointlessly pedantic idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-about-wraps-it-up-for-amazon/787896/92 "2017-06-07T13:09:33Z")
> [@Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](#): > > I could just got to a store and buy it (since i have to got to drive to use a locker anyway). … This is one reason they tend to be located in the bigger cities. When I lived in L.A. the nearest Amazon locker was about a block away from my home in a 7-11 store. If it hadn’t been there, it likely would’ve been at the next closest 7-11 store about three blocks away. This was in Palms, a very walkable part of L.A. The concept may be targeted more towards pedestrian friendly neighborhoods. The house I grew up in, also in L.A., was several miles away from and about 500 feet in elevation above the nearest convenience store or any other location where Amazon lockers could have been put. In short I don’t think the lockers are meant for everyone. Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-about-wraps-it-up-for-amazon/787896/93 "2017-06-08T19:20:30Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Am I the only was who is confused here? Chimera complains that Amazon delivers his/her packages to an insecure location so that they can be stolen before he/she retrieves them. I suggest, “Hey, why not have them delivered to an Amazon Locker location? The service is free and the packages are secured until you get them.” Chimera asks, “Why would I want to use that?” > > I should think the why would be obvious, but in case it is not, you would want to use this service if you want your packages to be secured until you can retrieve them. Does that make sense? If not, I can speak more slowly. > [@Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](#): > > People keep mentioning Amazon lockers. I’ve got them near me, but unless the item is something I can’t get anywhere else, why would i want to do that? I could just got to a store and buy it (since i have to got to drive to use a locker anyway). One of the big conveniences of online shopping is delivery TO ME, not to someplace I have to go pick it up from. ^ This. The only Amazon locker I know of is in a mall, on the other side of the interstate entrances from where I live. It’s location w/in the mall is near a now-shuttered department store, meaning I have to go thru another entrance & walk a significant portion of the mall to be able to access it. I can’t go before work, as they’re not open. Going at evening rush hour can take ½ hour because of interstate traffic. Evening pickup hours end at 9pm (mall closing time) & I have to walk past other retail stores that probably sell the same thing. To get to that mall, I have to drive right past a cookie-cutter strip mall, which includes a big-box hardware store, a Bullseye, & the same assortment of other stores that are probably identical to the strip mall in your neighborhood. Why would I want to order something online that’s _less_ convenient than buying retail? ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-about-wraps-it-up-for-amazon/787896/94 "2017-06-08T20:48:25Z")
OK I got curious about whether there were Amazon Lockers near my suburban location. Went to their website to find out, and what did I learn? I can’t search unless I log in. Reason # 1,341 why I hate Amazon. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-about-wraps-it-up-for-amazon/787896/95 "2017-06-08T21:39:43Z")
> [@Wilson](#): > > OK I got curious about whether there were Amazon Lockers near my suburban location. > Went to their website to find out, and what did I learn? I can’t search unless I log in. > > Reason # 1,341 why I hate Amazon. FYI, if you search on “Amazon locker locations,” Google will show you the ones near you without requiring an Amazon login. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-about-wraps-it-up-for-amazon/787896/96 "2017-06-08T21:45:53Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > How is that happening? There’s a place in the check-out process where _you_ choose the method of payment. I ONLY use PayPal for Amazon. Damned I’d those fuckers will scam me multiple times on a single purchase. Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-about-wraps-it-up-for-amazon/787896/97 "2017-06-08T22:00:33Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > I ONLY use PayPal for Amazon. > > Damned I’d those fuckers will scam me multiple times on a single purchase. > > Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk Weird. I’ve never been charged multiple times on any order. (somewhere over 150 orders) ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-about-wraps-it-up-for-amazon/787896/98 "2017-06-08T22:13:24Z")
Yeah, that sounds like an old geezer just assuming he’s been getting scammed all his life… "And dadburn those Baby Ruth bars! I opened one t’other day, ‘58 as ah recall, and a tiny little Fun Size bar fell out into my hand. And the clerk refused to believe I’d given him a two-dollah bill and he only gave me one Kennedy half dollar back! And don’t get me started on those plastic credit cards with all the numbers and a magnetic strip … and now they want me to shove a chip? Into a slot? Last time I did that, I got charged twice a fortnight all summer. Oh, no, they’re not gettin’ me with that… Sent from my rotary dial CR-Mud9e0N using TapDanceTalk." ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-about-wraps-it-up-for-amazon/787896/99 "2017-06-08T23:11:01Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > ^ This. > > The only Amazon locker I know of is in a mall, on the other side of the interstate entrances from where I live. It’s location w/in the mall is near a now-shuttered department store, meaning I have to go thru another entrance & walk a significant portion of the mall to be able to access it. > > I can’t go before work, as they’re not open. Going at evening rush hour can take ½ hour because of interstate traffic. Evening pickup hours end at 9pm (mall closing time) & I have to walk past other retail stores that probably sell the same thing. To get to that mall, I have to drive right past a cookie-cutter strip mall, which includes a big-box hardware store, a Bullseye, & the same assortment of other stores that are probably identical to the strip mall in your neighborhood. > > Why would I want to order something online that’s _less_ convenient than buying retail? I can understand why you wouldn’t want to use an Amazon Locker. But your situation may be atypical. For me, the closest locker locations are in a Seven-Eleven in the next town over (so a detour of about two miles on the way home) or outside the supermarket I usually visit, which is on the way home. So for me, they are convenient. And I like that the package is secure. Note that the stuff I buy from Amazon is either unavailable locally or cheaper from Amazon, so I have reason to shop there even if I have to make a slight detour to pick up the stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-about-wraps-it-up-for-amazon/787896/100 "2017-06-09T00:08:47Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > ^ This. > > The only Amazon locker I know of is in a mall, on the other side of the interstate entrances from where I live. It’s location w/in the mall is near a now-shuttered department store, meaning I have to go thru another entrance & walk a significant portion of the mall to be able to access it. > > I can’t go before work, as they’re not open. Going at evening rush hour can take ½ hour because of interstate traffic. Evening pickup hours end at 9pm (mall closing time) & I have to walk past other retail stores that probably sell the same thing. To get to that mall, I have to drive right past a cookie-cutter strip mall, which includes a big-box hardware store, a Bullseye, & the same assortment of other stores that are probably identical to the strip mall in your neighborhood. > > Why would I want to order something online that’s _less_ convenient than buying retail? Lockers in a mall would probably work well for people that work at the mall. It would be a good way to have stuff delivered to work without the having to worry about managers/bosses getting on your case about having your stuff taking up space in the little tiny back room. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-about-wraps-it-up-for-amazon/787896.md?page=4)