# Well, that didn't take long - Sessions fired **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 7, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155 "2018-11-07T20:59:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/41 "2018-11-08T18:06:56Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Given that 21 current Senators, or over one fifth of the Senate, are 74 years old or older (and 9 are over 80), I can’t see that as being a major obstacle. This is a huge problem for our political system: The nation is run by geriatrics who should be retired. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/42 "2018-11-08T18:08:49Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > If Trump was as bad as you guys think he is, he’d nominate Eric Holder and really stick it to the immigrants. > > Of course I don’t think cracking down on weed is as important to Trump as it was to Holder, Sessions, and Obama. You’re trying to say something here, but damned if I can tell what it is. The words are all in English, but they just aren’t fitting together right. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/43 "2018-11-08T18:22:13Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > You’re trying to say something here, but damned if I can tell what it is. > > The words are all in English, but they just aren’t fitting together right. Pretty much like all of his posts, then. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/44 "2018-11-08T18:26:09Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Given that 21 current Senators, or over one fifth of the Senate, are 74 years old or older (and 9 are over 80), I can’t see that as being a major obstacle. With the retirements of Mikulski, Cochran, and Hatch (and the death of McCain), there will be 5 Senators over 80 when the new Senate convenes in January: Feinstein, Grassley, Shelby, Inhofe, and Roberts. Feinstein (the oldest) was just re-elected; Inhofe and Roberts will be up for re-election in 2020; Grassley and Shelby in 2022. That’s still five too many. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/45 "2018-11-08T18:46:35Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Pretty much like all of his posts, then. As I discovered in the course of dialogs [like this](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21305295&postcount=5), it’s usually a waste of time trying to figure out what the fuck he means or why he’s saying it, and a mistake trying to respond to it. I’ve had more productive conversations with my son’s German Shepherd. All anyone really needs to know is that his remarks are always plugging his particular brand of deluded far-right libertarian extremism. What, if anything, goes through his fevered brain when he actually puts the words together isn’t interesting or useful. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/46 "2018-11-08T19:07:30Z")
[sub](I posted this in elections but that thread seems to be petering out so I’ll try here)[/sub] That is what judge Napolitano is suggesting. Is there anything to this? > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump’s appointment of Matthew Whitaker as Acting Attorney General may be illegal, Andrew Napolitano, senior judicial analyst for Fox News, said on Wednesday. > > “Under the law, the person running the Department of Justice must have been approved by the United States Senate for some previous position. Even on an interim post,” Napolitano told Fox News’ Dana Perino. > > \ > > While Whitaker was confirmed by the Senate in 2004 when he was appointed U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Iowa, Napolitano said that he was nevertheless ineligible to serve in his current post as the confirmation was not “for a leadership position in the Justice Department.” > > SOURCE: [Matt Whitaker's Appointment May Be Illegal, Fox News' Andrew Napolitano Says | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/matt-whitaker-donald-trump-fox-news-attorney-general_us_5be3b528e4b0dbe871a69269) ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/47 "2018-11-08T19:11:42Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > [sub](I posted this in elections but that thread seems to be petering out so I’ll try here)[/sub] > > That is what judge Napolitano is suggesting. Is there anything to this? For what it’s worth, Kellyanne Conway’s husband [agrees](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/george-conway-new-york-times-op-ed_us_5be47732e4b0e843889555ac). ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/48 "2018-11-08T19:30:39Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > [sub](I posted this in elections but that thread seems to be petering out so I’ll try here)[/sub] > > That is what judge Napolitano is suggesting. Is there anything to this? Cross-posted from GD: > [@Whit Sessions gone, what will become of the Mueller probe and its findings to date?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whit-sessions-gone-what-will-become-of-the-mueller-probe-and-its-findings-to-date/824160/17): > > I don’t think there is any ambiguity. 5 USC § 3345 defines three classes of government employees eligible to temporarily perform the functions and duties of a vacant “advice and consent,” office. The first two are iffy, perhaps, but Whitaker clearly qualifies under the third. > > Whitaker served as Chief of Staff to AG Sessions immediately prior to Sessions’ resignation, and the default and automatic first rule is that when an “advice and consent,” office becomes vacant, “the first assistant to the office,” becomes the acting officer. See §3345(a)(1). > > The term “first assistant to the office,” is not defined in §3345, and perhaps the administration might argue that the Chief of Staff is the “first assistant.” But this would seem to be scuttled by 28 USC § 508, which provides specifically that for the Department of Justice, “…[F]or the purpose of section 3345 of title 5 the Deputy Attorney General is the first assistant to the Attorney General.” > > The second possibility is that the President may ask any other “advice and consent,” officer to serve. The Senate approved Whitaker as a US Attorney, but I agree there’s a time and function argument to be made there. Fortunately for Whitaker, if not for the rest of us, the third category is one under which he clearly qualifies. > > The third rule: the President can select a senior “officer or employee,” of the same executive agency, if that employee served in that agency for at least 90 days during the year preceding the vacancy and is paid at a rate equivalent to at least a GS-15 on the federal pay scale. §3345(a)(3). > > That manifestly covers Whitaker, who has served as Chief of Staff since September 22, 2017, a position that’s on the ES scale, and thus above a GS-15. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/49 "2018-11-08T19:33:27Z")
If Il Douche decides he must hang Hillary, he will schedule the execution for noon the next day and advise the Court that he wants their legal and Constitutional okey-dokey by eleven a.m. Even money that he gets it, and on schedule. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/50 "2018-11-08T20:20:44Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > As I discovered in the course of dialogs [like this](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21305295&postcount=5), it’s usually a waste of time trying to figure out what the fuck he means or why he’s saying it, and a mistake trying to respond to it. I’ve had more productive conversations with my son’s German Shepherd. > > All anyone really needs to know is that his remarks are always plugging his particular brand of deluded far-right libertarian extremism. What, if anything, goes through his fevered brain when he actually puts the words together isn’t interesting or useful. Yes you have been ethered several times, and have no shame in repeatedly linking to said etherings. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/51 "2018-11-08T20:23:39Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Pretty much like all of his posts, then. Boomer comedy. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/52 "2018-11-08T20:26:02Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > You’re trying to say something here, but damned if I can tell what it is. > > The words are all in English, but they just aren’t fitting together right. Yes. Perhaps your bubbled mind is unaware that Eric Holder was viciously anti-immigrant and anti-weed. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/53 "2018-11-08T20:31:33Z")
I rest my case. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/54 "2018-11-08T20:35:37Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I rest my case. More Boomer one-liners please. Break out that Mary Tyler Moore Show box set if you have to. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/55 "2018-11-08T21:35:16Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Yes you have been ethered several times, and have no shame in repeatedly linking to said etherings. You really are a priceless fucking moron. This will be my only response to you in this thread which you’ve been pulluting with your lame attempts to defend yourself with nerd-speak and incomprehensible analogies. The reason that I’m quite happy to reference my “ethering” (whatever the fuck that is supposed to mean in English) is that anyone can follow along and read the many responses – as well as mine – to your idiocy from many different posters in those two threads. You’ve cited a narrow and questionable statistic about direct climate-related deaths that I’ve shown to be both wrong and irrelevant, and tried like a complete fucking moron to draw the conclusion that therefore climate change is no problem whatsoever, and fuck what 50 years of dedicated climate science has to say about it. And your cite is moronic blathering from a pathetic old-school climate denialist writing for the Cato Institute. You are, in fact, so fucking clueless that I can count at least the following four major argumentative fallacies in your bullshit: Causal Fallacy Red Herring Fallacy The Hasty Generalization Fallacy False Appeal to Authority Which is why it directly contradicts all the science and all the facts. Because it’s total bullshit from start to end, in every way. On this subject, as on all others that I’ve seen you opine on, you’re a clueless far-right extremist wingnut, and probably a dangerous one. I really wish you would fuck off and haunt some other message board, like 4chan. Really, you’d be much happier among fellow dangerous wingnuts. But anyway, at least do us all a favor and fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/56 "2018-11-09T00:30:43Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > If Il Douche decides he must hang Hillary, he will schedule the execution for noon the next day and advise the Court that he wants their legal and Constitutional okey-dokey by eleven a.m. Even money that he gets it, and on schedule. From the Justice who helped write the torture rationalizations for Bush. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/57 "2018-11-09T00:47:41Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > The reason that I’m quite happy to reference my “ethering” (whatever the fuck that is supposed to mean in English) _Jumps out of hyperspace_ I can offer two possibilities to WillFarnaby usage of ‘ether’. One, it is an older term for the chemical mixture used to render a patient unconscious so as to perform surgery or other medical procedures. It is out of date and not used anymore as better medical drugs are now available to do the same job. Two, is the theory of the ‘aether’, which was how science first hypothesized that light moved through the vacuum of space. It was dis-proven by experiment (see Michaelson-Morley) and replaced by current theory (which you can look up on your own, too much physics gives me a headache). So WF could be indicated you are unconscious of things or holding to an old and disproved theory. Or maybe he’s just being a prick. Your call. Press on. _Jumps back into hyperspace_ ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/58 "2018-11-09T00:48:03Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > You really are a priceless fucking moron. This will be my only response to you in this thread which you’ve been pulluting with your lame attempts to defend yourself with nerd-speak and incomprehensible analogies. The reason that I’m quite happy to reference my “ethering” (whatever the fuck that is supposed to mean in English) is that anyone can follow along and read the many responses – as well as mine – to your idiocy from many different posters in those two threads. You’ve cited a narrow and questionable statistic about direct climate-related deaths that I’ve shown to be both wrong and irrelevant, You have not shown it to be wrong. You have not posted any data on climate related deaths over the time span I specified. > [@](#): > > and tried like a complete fucking moron to draw the conclusion that therefore climate change is no problem whatsoever, I have never drawn that conclusion. Your bubble brain causes you to assume I have said everything that Rush Limbaugh has ever said. > [@](#): > > and fuck what 50 years of dedicated climate science has to say about it. The idea that there is 50 years of climate science that draws the same conclusion shows that you are a mere activist. Not a scientist. No scientist speaks like this. > [@](#): > > And your cite is moronic blathering from a pathetic old-school climate denialist writing for the Cato Institute. Cool tirade. > [@](#): > > You are, in fact, so fucking clueless that I can count at least the following four major argumentative fallacies in your bullshit: > > Causal Fallacy The irony here is too much for me. > [@](#): > > Red Herring Fallacy > The Hasty Generalization Fallacy No. > [@](#): > > False Appeal to Authority Again. Irony is a novel concept to you, no? > [@](#): > > Which is why it directly contradicts all the science and all the facts. Because it’s total bullshit from start to end, in every way. I made four claims. None of which you have laid a finger on. Population has been increasing. Dispute? Starvation has been decreasing. Dispute? Temperature has been increasing. Dispute? Climate related deaths have been decreasing. Dispute? > [@](#): > > On this subject, as on all others that I’ve seen you opine on, you’re a clueless far-right extremist wingnut, and probably a dangerous one. I really wish you would fuck off and haunt some other message board, like 4chan. Really, you’d be much happier among fellow dangerous wingnuts. But anyway, at least do us all a favor and fuck off. Yes, it is clear that I present a danger to your sense of self, but you continue to return, so I must continue to make your soul burn slow. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/59 "2018-11-09T01:28:36Z")
I think maybe I’m being ethered. Is it that thing where you’re really, really, _really_ bored? ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/60 "2018-11-09T01:54:02Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > You’re trying to say something here, but damned if I can tell what it is. > > The words are all in English, but they just aren’t fitting together right. So it’s not just me. I read that post over and over trying to make sense of it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155.md?page=4)