# Well, that didn't take long - Sessions fired **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 7, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155 "2018-11-07T20:59:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/61 "2018-11-09T01:56:31Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > So it’s not just me. I read that post over and over **trying to make sense of it**. You’re attempting the impossible. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/62 "2018-11-09T01:57:36Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > The idea that there is 50 years of climate science that draws the same conclusion shows that you are a mere activist. Not a scientist. No scientist speaks like this. Sure they do. In fact, sometimes [a scientist even refers to **200** years of climate science that draws the same conclusion](https://news.wttw.com/2017/10/23/obama-science-adviser-do-not-be-intimidated-speak-truth-power): > [@](#): > > […] From 2009 to 2017, [Professor John P.] Holdren served as President Barack Obama’s science and technology adviser […] > > Below: more highlights from Holdren’s [October 2017 Chicago0 lecture, titled, “Global Climate Change and U.S. Interests: What We Know. What We Expect. What We Should Do.” […] > > “People need to understand that one single contrary publication or blog post is not going to overturn 200 years of climate science.” […] But wait, is this Holdren guy really a scientist? Why, [yes he is](https://eps.harvard.edu/people/john-p-holdren), in fact: > [@](#): > > DR. JOHN P. HOLDREN is the Teresa and John Heinz Professor of Environmental Policy at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government, CoDirector of the School’s Science, Technology, and Public Policy program, Professor of Environmental Science and Policy in the Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences, and Faculty Affiliate in the Paulson School of Engineering and Applied Science. […] > > Dr. Holdren earned S.B. (1965) and S.M. (1966) degrees from M.I.T. and a Ph.D. (1970) from Stanford in aerospace engineering and theoretical plasma physics. He is a member of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences, the U.S. National Academy of Engineering, the American Philosophical Society, the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, the American Academy of Political and Social Science, and the Council on Foreign Relations. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/63 "2018-11-09T03:30:30Z")
Coincidentally, [Matt Stone & Trey Parker have apologized for not taking global warming seriously.](https://uproxx.com/tv/south-park-apology-manbearpig/) ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/64 "2018-11-09T04:44:49Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > One of the reasons I’m not Sessions is that I’d have told Kelly he can’t fire me - he’s not my boss, and unless my boss, the President, communicates to me that Kelly’s now my boss and can fire me, well, he can just go suck it. Same here. Kelly calls, I say “I don’t work for you”. and then “I’m not gonna resign. You tell that fat fuck he has to fire me. He don’t get off the hook that easy. Besides he don’t have the BALLS to do his own dirty work”. And if Trumpty Dumpty tries to tell Fox Fake News I resigned, I get on every show that will have me and call him out as a liar. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/65 "2018-11-09T04:51:53Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > The House can convene a hearing and call Mueller to testify publicly about his findings. > > Question is how far his findings have gotten. > > Pelosi might also try to tell Trump she will forego a subpoena for his tax returns or somesuch. > > Maybe they could start their own investigation and hire Mueller? Dunno if they can do that. Think on all the dirt WE know. Then tryo to imagine how much Meuler has to know by now. He had enough to find an awful lot of witches in this “witch hunt” already, and seized enough money to pay for the whole investigation. I just hope he shared it all with various State investigators and attorney generals, so Trump, Kavanaugh and Whitaker are too late to bury it. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/66 "2018-11-09T04:53:49Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Pretty much like all of his posts, then. Yeah. Some things never change. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/67 "2018-11-09T04:57:42Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > The idea that there is 50 years of climate science that draws the same conclusion shows that you are a mere activist. Not a scientist. No scientist speaks like this. Cripes, you’re an ignorant fuck. (And I’m a scientist, and have attended hundreds of hours of seminars, discussions, and workshops from climate scientists on these issues for more than 30 years.) ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/68 "2018-11-09T05:05:11Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Cripes, you’re an ignorant fuck. Thank you, Captain Obvious 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/69 "2018-11-09T05:13:54Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Thank you, Captain Obvious 😃 That one just struck me as particularly incongruous, like seeing an opossum smugly offer its personal opinions about quantum theory. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/70 "2018-11-09T06:01:13Z")
I’m going to try to pull this thread back from the **WillFarnaby** / climate change track to it’s original purpose. “Trump’s New A.G. Worked for Scam Firm That Threatened Victims with Krav Maga–Style Beatdowns” > **[Trump’s New A.G. Worked for Scam Firm That Threatened Victims with Krav...](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/11/matthew-whitaker-world-patent-marketing)** > > The company was ordered to pay the U.S. $26 million this past May. > [@](#): > > It turns out that in addition to his work as a United States attorney and private-practice lawyer, in 2014 Whitaker started serving on the advisory board of a company called World Patent Marketing, which bilked inventors out of millions they thought were going toward patents and licensing deals, and was shut down by the Federal Trade Commission last year. > … > According to e-mails filed by the F.T.C, in August 2015 Whitaker allegedly responded to a customer who had complained about World Patent Marketing to the Better Business Bureau by telling them, “I am assuming you understand that there could be serious civil and criminal consequences for you. Understand that we take threats like this quite seriously.” > … >  The pièce de résistance, though, would have to be the correspondence sent to unhappy customers suggesting they keep their grievances to themselves, lest an ex-member of the Israeli Special Ops show up on their doorstep: > The F.T.C. complaint adds that “Defendants also cultivate a threatening atmosphere” by sending its victims e-mails describing a company “security team” of “all ex-Israeli Special Ops and trained in Krav Maga… ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/71 "2018-11-09T06:49:57Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > That one just struck me as particularly incongruous, like seeing an opossum smugly offer its personal opinions about quantum theory. I’ve not paid much attention to him before, but after going down the rabbit hole of his posts, it’s like you’re a passenger trying to land an airplane. And you’re being talked through the procedure by Gary Busey. ---
**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/72 "2018-11-09T07:34:18Z")
it’s not like Mueller is \*surprised \*by any of this. It’s been the worst-kept secret in Washington that Sessions would be gone immediately after the midterms. Mueller is not a secret liberal. He is not out to ‘get’ Trump, nor is he out to secretly destroy the Republican party. What he is, however, is by the book. And he will absolutely be making sure that the work done over the past year or so by him and his team means something. He also knew that he basically had a deadline - get everything wrapped up by the midterms. Sessions being fired after the midterms and replaced by an AG looking to hamper/shut down the investigation - does anyone here \*seriously \*think Mueller hasn’t already put in place any number of plans exactly for this scenario? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/73 "2018-11-09T08:16:00Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I think maybe I’m being ethered. Is it that thing where you’re really, really, _really_ bored? > [@](#): > > …It is chloroform in print… Mark Twain, on _The Book of Mormon_ ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/74 "2018-11-09T10:24:29Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Sure they do. In fact, sometimes [a scientist even refers to **200** years of climate science that draws the same conclusion](https://news.wttw.com/2017/10/23/obama-science-adviser-do-not-be-intimidated-speak-truth-power): > But wait, is this Holdren guy really a scientist? Why, [yes he is](https://eps.harvard.edu/people/john-p-holdren), in fact: Yes it appears he was a scientist and devolved into a policy hack. Pay is much better. > [@Colibri](#): > > Cripes, you’re an ignorant fuck. (And I’m a scientist, and have attended hundreds of hours of seminars, discussions, and workshops from climate scientists on these issues for more than 30 years.) Ok. ---
**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/75 "2018-11-09T10:37:46Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Yes it appears he was a scientist and devolved into a policy hack. Pay is much better. > Ok. You think his pay was \*better \*working in the White House? You really are an ignorant fuck, aren’t you? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/76 "2018-11-09T11:28:55Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > … it’s like you’re a passenger trying to land an airplane. And you’re being talked through the procedure by Gary Busey. A Gary Busey that occasionally breaks into his Buddy Holly persona. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/77 "2018-11-09T13:08:13Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Cross-posted from GD: OK, that’s the Vacancies Act. But any thoughts about the applicability of the second paragraph of Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution? > [@](#): > > He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such **inferior Officers** , as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments. Is the AG an ‘inferior Officer’? If not, it wouldn’t seem that Congress could vest the AG appointment in the President alone. I can see how the Vacancies Act can do a semi-workaround in the case of persons who’ve already been appointed “by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate,” but Whitaker hasn’t. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/78 "2018-11-09T14:56:42Z")
> [@DragonAsh](#): > > You think his pay was \*better \*working in the White House? > > You really are an ignorant fuck, aren’t you? That’s how they really cash in. He’ll get bank once he leverages his government connections in the private sector. You are one of these naive bumpkins out here? Lol. Imagine being someone who spends time defending tax takers and cronies. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/79 "2018-11-09T15:10:24Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Yes it appears he was a scientist and devolved into a policy hack. Pay is much better. Whatever you say, B’rer Possum. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155/80 "2018-11-09T15:31:42Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > That’s how they really cash in. He’ll get bank once he leverages his government connections in the private sector. > > You are one of these naive bumpkins out here? Lol. Imagine being someone who spends time defending tax takers and cronies. WillFarnaby must also think that the scientists that advised past governments and warned people about smoking, did lie about how harmful tobacco because of monetary reasons. Of course that is stupid, but logic is not his strength. Speaking of that, I see that he is still repeating the stupid point of seeing less people die from extreme weather so therefore: no need to deal with climate change, that would be as logical as someone noticing that since less people die of cancer that then people should smoke now. :rolleyes: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-didnt-take-long-sessions-fired/824155.md?page=5)