# Well, that was scumbuckety! Car-related complaint **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 18, 2017, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-was-scumbuckety-car-related-complaint/789317 "2017-06-18T21:12:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-was-scumbuckety-car-related-complaint/789317/21 "2017-06-20T15:13:10Z")
> [@Jennshark](#): > > They argued that brakes with 7000 miles often go bad… They seriously argued that brakes often go bad after just _six months_ of driving? ---
**Author:** ![Jennshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Jennshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennshark)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-was-scumbuckety-car-related-complaint/789317/22 "2017-06-20T18:15:23Z")
> [@MacCat](#): > > Rocker arms? Rocker arms were replaced a few months ago, so I’m leaning toward scumbucketry gouging attempt 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Jennshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Jennshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennshark)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-was-scumbuckety-car-related-complaint/789317/23 "2017-06-20T18:16:24Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > Unless they were really slacking on their scamming skills, they probably told the OP that the _rotors_ were worn, not the calipers. Nope, it was calipers . . . this is the point my brain went WTF? ---
**Author:** ![Jennshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Jennshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennshark)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-was-scumbuckety-car-related-complaint/789317/24 "2017-06-20T18:28:38Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Pretty sure she meant “control arm”. That’s what BMW calls 'em. > > Hey! Make sure you update us about this groovy drivin’ course. The Beast had a mechanical issue halfway through today, so I sat out the last two runs. The engine limped out when I hit the throttle out of a curve to 90mph on a straightaway. Fortunately, I was surrounded by a hundred hardcore BMW guys. They pulled the codes, wrapped some electrical tape around a cracked plug, and changed out cylinder three. I probably could have done more runs, but there were a few codes that concerned me and I wanted to make sure I could do the 70 miles home today. I had a GREAT time! My body has been flooded with so much adrenaline these last two days that I’m just now starting to come down 😃 I learned a lot and plan to do more HPDEs when I get the car checked out (a priority after mechanics will be front track seats; the cable/motor is screwed on the Bimmer seats and they are really jacked, especially after my large instructor spent a few hours in passenger side). So, my big ol’ heavy 530 will never be the fastest car on the track, but she did admirably. Many folks came to look at the car and thought she was beautiful; some younger guys had never seen an '02 530i in the wild. . . .looks like I have a new, expensive hobby. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jennshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Jennshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennshark)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-was-scumbuckety-car-related-complaint/789317/25 "2017-06-20T18:30:42Z")
Forgot to add: I was worried that everyone else would have gorgeous race-ready cars; I was relieved when I saw some of the junk people were driving. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-was-scumbuckety-car-related-complaint/789317/26 "2017-06-20T20:54:05Z")
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! I am unbelievably jealous. Did you (have to ask) get any pics? ---
**Author:** ![Whiskey\_Dickens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9fc348/32.png) [@Whiskey\_Dickens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whiskey_Dickens)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-was-scumbuckety-car-related-complaint/789317/27 "2017-06-20T21:27:39Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > I just now stopped laughing! 😃 Did they try to charge you to top off the blinker fluid? I’ve never seen a “worn caliper” on any car or motorcycle. You have been lucky my friend! 🙂 I can tell a caliper is worn when my pad and rotor life reduce by about 75%. Also had a caliper seize, partly due to just plain old age. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-was-scumbuckety-car-related-complaint/789317/28 "2017-06-20T22:57:24Z")
> [@Jennshark](#): > > Forgot to add: I was worried that everyone else would have gorgeous race-ready cars; I was relieved when I saw some of the junk people were driving. You would have a belly-laugh if you saw my shit! Of course, you wouldn’t. None of them would pass the inspection, I bet. > [@Whiskey\_Dickens](#): > > Also had a caliper seize, partly due to just plain old age. One of my e10’s has rusted solid calipers. A project for the next owner, to be sure. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jennshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Jennshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennshark)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-was-scumbuckety-car-related-complaint/789317/29 "2017-06-21T17:51:30Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! > > I am unbelievably jealous. Did you (have to ask) get any pics? I ordered some prints from the photo guy who was doing the event. Check out HPDE events in your part of the world! You don’t need a hyped-up track car, just a decent driver (remind me: Are you a Bimmer person?) ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-was-scumbuckety-car-related-complaint/789317/30 "2017-06-21T17:59:57Z")
Yes, Bimmer. Right now I have the M3 version of the X3. I was going to ask you if anyone had X3s there. I would not ordinarily be gung-ho to drive my SUV on the track, but since it’s what I have at the moment… ---
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-was-scumbuckety-car-related-complaint/789317/31 "2017-06-21T20:35:41Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Yes, Bimmer. Right now I have the M3 version of the X3. I was going to ask you if anyone had X3s there. I would not ordinarily be gung-ho to drive my SUV on the track, but since it’s what I have at the moment… I’ve done a track day where one of the drivers was behind the wheel of a Honda Element. Gotta drive what you got. That said, you also have to be prepared to wad up what you got. I can’t think of a track day I either participated in or observed that didn’t have at least one accident resulting in big damage. And most insurers will no longer cover even instructional events at a motorsports facility. The last track day I did, I was behind an S4 when it split an oil hose and doused the racing line. Had I been just a little closer, it would have not been the pucker moment that it was, but a major off-track excursion that probably would have totalled my Elise. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-was-scumbuckety-car-related-complaint/789317/32 "2017-06-22T00:43:59Z")
I just now realized, or maybe I forgot, that you have a BMW. \*One of Us! One of Us! \* 😃 > [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Yes, Bimmer. Right now I have the M3 version of the X3. I’ve got an M badge on one of my e30’s. Found it in a junkyard. Makes it go faster! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Jennshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Jennshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennshark)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-was-scumbuckety-car-related-complaint/789317/33 "2017-06-23T17:44:52Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Yes, Bimmer. Right now I have the M3 version of the X3. I was going to ask you if anyone had X3s there. I would not ordinarily be gung-ho to drive my SUV on the track, but since it’s what I have at the moment… Hi Sunny: I also have an X3 (love it!) but, at least in the Northeast BMWCCA events, you’r not allowed to track the X SAV series nor a Mini Cooper convertible (I own both these cars in addition to the 530). Hardtop Minis are allowed. I was disappointed I couldn’t use my X, but the gnarly cornering and throttle made it instantly obvious that a low center of gravity was a must. Peruse the BMW CCA site for event and requirement info. The track I did had M-series coupes for daily rental; if you’re interested in HP driving, think about renting a track car to get a feel for it. If you like intense adrenaline experiences, this kind of driving will blow you away 😃 Keep me updated! ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2017, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-was-scumbuckety-car-related-complaint/789317/34 "2017-06-24T23:26:14Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > I just now realized, or maybe I forgot, that you have a BMW. \*One of Us! One of Us! \* 😃 > > I’ve got an M badge on one of my e30’s. Found it in a junkyard. Makes it go faster! 😛 Would you believe they sell a M of the x3, which is ridiculous in my not so humble opinion. Don’t ask me why I have it. Just. No. ---
**Author:** ![Jennshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Jennshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennshark)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2017, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-was-scumbuckety-car-related-complaint/789317/35 "2017-06-24T23:49:11Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Would you believe they sell a M of the x3, which is ridiculous in my not so humble opinion. Don’t ask me why I have it. Just. No. Wow, that seems kinda . . . unecessary:eek: mine has more power than I’d ever consider topping out in an SUV. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-was-scumbuckety-car-related-complaint/789317/36 "2017-06-25T00:00:23Z")
Now I want to park it next to a “not M” and crawl around on them and compare the differences. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-was-scumbuckety-car-related-complaint/789317/37 "2017-06-25T00:15:50Z")
That would be the point where I would be sharing the quote and the subsequent inspection with my state’s Attorney General’s Office. Because that is FRAUD. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-was-scumbuckety-car-related-complaint/789317/38 "2017-06-25T00:39:39Z")
It’s a thing. Here’s one [article](https://www.topspeed.com/cars/bmw/2017-bmw-x3-m-ar116615.html). I can find others if you want. My main objection to my having one is the money I spent on it, not the fun I have driving it. ---
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-was-scumbuckety-car-related-complaint/789317/39 "2017-06-25T01:58:23Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > It’s a thing. Here’s one [article](https://www.topspeed.com/cars/bmw/2017-bmw-x3-m-ar116615.html). I can find others if you want. > > My main objection to my having one is the money I spent on it, not the fun I have driving it. How new is that? They don’t list the model on the [BMW website](https://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/m.html) yet even. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-was-scumbuckety-car-related-complaint/789317/40 "2017-06-25T02:44:52Z")
Good point. I’m trying to dig around. I believe that the M I have is actually a “lighter” version of the one I linked to. It’s older (not a 2017). BMW definitely made it though. I find it on the website if I go to X3, models, and then Build Your Own. One of the options from there is “M Sport”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-was-scumbuckety-car-related-complaint/789317.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-that-was-scumbuckety-car-related-complaint/789317.md?page=3)