# Well, that'll teach you to lie to the police **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 4, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-thatll-teach-you-to-lie-to-the-police/608414 "2012-01-04T19:22:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-thatll-teach-you-to-lie-to-the-police/608414/1 "2012-01-04T19:22:59Z")
So, a 14 year old runs away from home and then. . . > [@](#): > > News 8 learned that Jakadrien somehow ended up in Houston, where she was arrested by Houston police for theft. She gave Houston police a fake name. When police in Houston ran that name, it belonged to a 22-year-old illegal immigrant from Columbia, who had warrants for her arrest. > > So ICE officials stepped in. > > News 8 has learned ICE took the girl’s fingerprints, but somehow didn’t confirm her identity and deported her to Colombia, where the Colombian government gave her a work card and released her. [Article.](http://www.wfaa.com/news/texas-news/Dallas-Teen-Is--Mistakenly-Deported--136626533.html) I’m guessing she wont ever lie to the police again (when she finally gets out of Colombian jail, I mean). But in all seriousness: what a boneheaded move on the end of our government. Really? Deporting a black girl who speaks no Spanish-- did anybody even look at her finger prints? Aye aye aye. ---
**Author:** ![phouka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@phouka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phouka)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-thatll-teach-you-to-lie-to-the-police/608414/2 "2012-01-04T19:26:25Z")
And in order for this to happen, the following events are necessary: - the girl (a minor!) never received legal counsel - no one ever told her that the name she gave matched up with a Colombian woman with an arrest warrant who was set to be deported - no one ever explained what “deported” means - screw comparing fingerprints, no one even checked the photo of the original Colombian woman against this girl Oh, but ICE is taking this “very seriously”. Uh huh. ---
**Author:** ![Time\_Stranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@Time\_Stranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Time_Stranger)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-thatll-teach-you-to-lie-to-the-police/608414/3 "2012-01-04T19:30:46Z")
Wow. This is almost absurdly unreal to me. I’m having a hard time grasping how so many people would have had to fucked up on this case for her to end up in a Colombian jail. I really hope they get her out soon. Is there any chance for compensation? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-thatll-teach-you-to-lie-to-the-police/608414/4 "2012-01-04T19:32:20Z")
Don’t you feel so much _safer_ knowing these people are in charge of your security and well-being? ---
**Author:** ![phouka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@phouka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phouka)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-thatll-teach-you-to-lie-to-the-police/608414/5 "2012-01-04T20:25:42Z")
Well, as a white woman, kind of? If I were of any other ethnicity, I’d be terrified. ---
**Author:** ![Earthworm\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f07891/32.png) [@Earthworm\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earthworm_Jim)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-thatll-teach-you-to-lie-to-the-police/608414/6 "2012-01-04T20:27:15Z")
It’s horrible, but I can understand how some of the bureaucratic screwups happen. But in the end, when it comes down to it, some group of people have to be escorting this terrified girl to an airplane, knowing that she’s destined for Columbia. And they don’t stop and say “Hang on, something’s wrong here.” Nope, it’s ‘just following orders’ all the way down. Has Godwins law been repealed yet? ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-thatll-teach-you-to-lie-to-the-police/608414/7 "2012-01-04T20:32:07Z")
> [@phouka](#): > > Well, as a white woman, kind of? > > If I were of any other ethnicity, I’d be terrified. :D:p ---
**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-thatll-teach-you-to-lie-to-the-police/608414/8 "2012-01-04T20:33:48Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Don’t you feel so much _safer_ knowing these people are in charge of your security and well-being? And they want to run your health care, too. ---
**Author:** ![Al\_Bundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@Al\_Bundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al_Bundy)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-thatll-teach-you-to-lie-to-the-police/608414/9 "2012-01-04T21:09:31Z")
There must be more to this story than the short article. The girl ran away from home. She did not want to be home. Apparently her objections to being deported were most minor. She was getting a free trip out. And where did she pick up the name of the illegal immigrant? She did not pull that out of thin air. She must have known the woman. She worked in the other country and only when she got tired of hanging out did the story come to the surface. But yes, the authorities dropped the ball in many places too. Successful criminal and or deviant behavior often depends upon the laxity of officials. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-thatll-teach-you-to-lie-to-the-police/608414/10 "2012-01-04T21:09:56Z")
Apparently you can get a “work card” the moment you step off the plane in Colombia without even knowing how to speak Spanish… good to know! ---
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-thatll-teach-you-to-lie-to-the-police/608414/11 "2012-01-04T21:21:04Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Apparently you can get a “work card” the moment you step off the plane in Colombia without even knowing how to speak Spanish… good to know! That might depend on the Colombian authorities being told by the American government that the girl had the identity of a Colombian citizen. Why would they doubt Uncle Sam’s word? But I agree with **Al Bundy** : this probably happened because the girl was happy to be deported: she could get even further away from home, with the American government paying her airfare. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-thatll-teach-you-to-lie-to-the-police/608414/12 "2012-01-04T21:23:09Z")
Maybe she thought she was going to South Carolina. Or Australia. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-thatll-teach-you-to-lie-to-the-police/608414/13 "2012-01-04T21:38:40Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Maybe she thought she was going to South Carolina. Or Australia. Possible. Let’s be real: this girl doesn’t exactly seem very smart. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-thatll-teach-you-to-lie-to-the-police/608414/14 "2012-01-04T21:44:30Z")
> [@phouka](#): > > And in order for this to happen, the following events are necessary: > > - the girl (a minor!) never received legal counsel > - no one ever told her that the name she gave matched up with a Colombian woman with an arrest warrant who was set to be deported > - no one ever explained what “deported” means > - screw comparing fingerprints, no one even checked the photo of the original Colombian woman against this girl > > Oh, but ICE is taking this “very seriously”. > > Uh huh. Exactly. This sounds like the plot of a South Park episode. ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-thatll-teach-you-to-lie-to-the-police/608414/15 "2012-01-04T21:44:50Z")
I don’t believe the story as told for a second. ---
**Author:** ![Chopper9760](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cdc98d/32.png) [@Chopper9760](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chopper9760)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-thatll-teach-you-to-lie-to-the-police/608414/16 "2012-01-04T22:46:38Z")
I liked the grandma’s objection, “How do you deport a teenager and send her to Colombia without a passport, without anything?” Well, I for one don’t expect illegal aliens to have passports. On the one hand this is a spectacular fuck-up. On the other, Jakadrien was _14 years old,_ she was either going along with it to get away or someone at ICE was pissed at her. It’ll be interesting to hear what she has to say when they get her home. If my name was Jakadrien, I’d lie about it too. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-thatll-teach-you-to-lie-to-the-police/608414/17 "2012-01-04T22:52:19Z")
Many names are not unique, so why the assumption that she was the Colombian national with outstanding warrants and not someone else with the same name? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-thatll-teach-you-to-lie-to-the-police/608414/18 "2012-01-04T23:02:41Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > But in all seriousness: what a boneheaded move on the end of our government. Really? Deporting a black girl who speaks no Spanish… I bet her Spanish is pretty good by now, probably better than it would have been with four years of high school Spanish. And she’s got some practical immigration and deportation experience. She’s probably qualified for a really good job with ICE or Homeland Security or someone now. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-thatll-teach-you-to-lie-to-the-police/608414/19 "2012-01-04T23:50:40Z")
> [@Chopper9760](#): > > If my name was Jakadrien, I’d lie about it too. This is exactly what one of my friends said when discussing this earlier. What a truly awful name. Do you think it’s more “Jack-adrien” or “Jack-ahhhdreen?” ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-thatll-teach-you-to-lie-to-the-police/608414/20 "2012-01-04T23:57:00Z")
JahKAHdree-en is my vote. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-thatll-teach-you-to-lie-to-the-police/608414.md?page=2)