# Well, the America is Christian" bigots were out in force Saturday **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 11, 2017, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-the-america-is-christian-bigots-were-out-in-force-saturday/788674 "2017-06-11T08:40:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-the-america-is-christian-bigots-were-out-in-force-saturday/788674/61 "2017-06-12T00:53:44Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > No it’s not about finding the worst insult. It’s about finding the insult that is most appropriate. In American parlance, most notably that of the underclass and also suburban white males, you call someone a “bitch” when they are exhibiting cowardice. Are you another one who is unfamiliar with American society, or do you find pleasure in knocking people over the head with empty politically-correct language policing? Maybe instead of calling people bitches and claiming that someone is ignorant about America, you could actually, you know, point out why they’re wrong. I might be over-analyzing things here – I do that sometimes – but this thread seems to have struck a nerve with you. Out of curiosity: were you one of the protesters yesterday? I’m honestly not asking to yank your chain - just asking. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-the-america-is-christian-bigots-were-out-in-force-saturday/788674/62 "2017-06-12T00:56:00Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Look folks, one simple question, one simple answer. > > Anytime someone whines about SHARIA LAW!!! in the USA or elsewhere, please ask them how this is supposed to happen. > > They have no answers. Then feel free to point out that they look rather silly protesting something that can’t happen. The problem is they do have “answers”. Those answers are rooted in their prejudice, of course. We’re talking about the same idiots that believe President Obama was born in Kenya, is a “secret Muslim”, and a host of other nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-the-america-is-christian-bigots-were-out-in-force-saturday/788674/63 "2017-06-12T01:12:56Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > Is…is that really a thing? Leftists are supposed to casually call for violence? Dammit! I’ve been lefting wrong this whole time! I never got the memo. Why am I always the last to know? ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-the-america-is-christian-bigots-were-out-in-force-saturday/788674/64 "2017-06-12T01:41:49Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I don’t know what people are supposed to ‘learn’ by reading this thread. I guess they’d learn about the pathetically poor quality of political discourse in 'Merikuh. It IS the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-the-america-is-christian-bigots-were-out-in-force-saturday/788674/65 "2017-06-12T01:42:01Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > No it’s not about finding the worst insult. It’s about finding the insult that is most appropriate. In American parlance, most notably that of the underclass and also suburban white males, you call someone a “bitch” when they are exhibiting cowardice. Are you another one who is unfamiliar with American society, or do you find pleasure in knocking people over the head with empty politically-correct language policing? I am an American woman who is tired of people equating my gender with cowardice, weakness or somehow being somehow less than. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-the-america-is-christian-bigots-were-out-in-force-saturday/788674/66 "2017-06-12T01:44:06Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > The photos don’t show it very well but it seems like the counterprotesters outnumber them pretty handily. The bigots seem to have maybe a dozen. I had heard reports in Seattle where the counter protest outnumbered the bigots 10 or 20 to 1. One of my FBFs attended as a spectator yesterday, and took a picture of the “rally”. Let’s just say the police officers outnumbered the “anti-Sharia protesters”. BTW, he’s also an ordained Episcopalian priest. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-the-america-is-christian-bigots-were-out-in-force-saturday/788674/67 "2017-06-12T01:54:23Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > I never got the memo. Why am I always the last to know? I tried to look up the phone number I’m supposed to call for violence, but I can’t find it. Is it an SMS thing? Or maybe something online? I’m as confused by the “leftists call for violence” as Trumpeters wield firearms outside a mosque as I am by **Will Farnaby** apparently being a badass on the internet. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-the-america-is-christian-bigots-were-out-in-force-saturday/788674/68 "2017-06-12T03:04:03Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Maybe instead of calling people bitches and claiming that someone is ignorant about America, you could actually, you know, point out why they’re wrong. > > I might be over-analyzing things here – I do that sometimes – but this thread seems to have struck a nerve with you. Out of curiosity: were you one of the protesters yesterday? I’m honestly not asking to yank your chain - just asking. Hell no. The only thing I took issue with was when the guy said he wanted to lock up (more accurately he wanted stronger, braver people to lock up) the peaceful redneck protestors. You wouldn’t catch me on either side of these ridiculous protests. Statists act like tough guys. This guy happened to be a bitch. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-the-america-is-christian-bigots-were-out-in-force-saturday/788674/69 "2017-06-12T03:09:06Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > I am an American woman who is tired of people equating my gender with cowardice, weakness or somehow being somehow less than. Is your gender “bitch”? I don’t spend much time in elitist white America. Your concern is obviously from that bizarre Puritanical vein of American society. Women are scarcely offended when you call a man a bitch outside your type of people. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-the-america-is-christian-bigots-were-out-in-force-saturday/788674/70 "2017-06-12T03:11:34Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > I tried to look up the phone number I’m supposed to call for violence, but I can’t find it. Is it an SMS thing? Or maybe something online? I’m as confused by the “leftists call for violence” as Trumpeters wield firearms outside a mosque as I am by **Will Farnaby** apparently being a badass on the internet. You’re apparently easily confused. Also characteristic of leftists. My badassery pales in comparison to the leftists in the thread who are keyed up to punch Trump supporters and lock up elderly men with rifles. Or have someone else do it. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-the-america-is-christian-bigots-were-out-in-force-saturday/788674/71 "2017-06-12T03:23:09Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Is your gender “bitch”? I don’t spend much time in elitist white America. Your concern is obviously from that bizarre Puritanical vein of American society. Women are scarcely offended when you call a man a bitch outside your type of people. Who the fuck are you to decide what and when something bothers me? If you are trying to argue that there is no gender implied in the word bitch, then i imagine you can make that same argument for other words that have an implicit meaning coupled with the explicit. And the word puritanical is far from applying to me, trust me on that. Nor am i am elitist. As i said, i am just fucking tired of men applying a derogatory word for woman as some kind of cutting insult. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-the-america-is-christian-bigots-were-out-in-force-saturday/788674/72 "2017-06-12T03:36:32Z")
Bolding mine: > [@WillFarnaby](#): > > **You want other people to arrest scary protestors for you.** Another bitch admission. You remain in your chair, awaiting salvation from stronger men. Who admits this kind of stuff? > [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Hell no. The only thing I took issue with was when the guy said he wanted to lock up ( **more accurately he wanted stronger, braver people to lock up** ) the peaceful redneck protestors. You wouldn’t catch me on either side of these ridiculous protests. Statists act like tough guys. This guy happened to be a bitch. > [@WillFarnaby](#): > > You’re apparently easily confused. Also characteristic of leftists. My badassery pales in comparison to the leftists in the thread who are keyed up to punch Trump supporters and lock up elderly men with rifles. **Or have someone else do it**. So do you just not believe in using the services of the police department, ever? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-the-america-is-christian-bigots-were-out-in-force-saturday/788674/73 "2017-06-12T04:26:27Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > These people need to get off the meth and find gainful employment. Not sure if you did it on purpose, but this made me laugh because it mirrors rhetoric for OWS protestors to stop smoking weed and get a job. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-the-america-is-christian-bigots-were-out-in-force-saturday/788674/74 "2017-06-12T04:43:27Z")
WiiFarnaby just won the derailment of the month award, and the month’s not even half over. Pretty stellar accomplishment for an idiot! p.s. Armed intimidation is not peaceful protest. ---
**Author:** ![Enuma\_Elish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5e9695/32.png) [@Enuma\_Elish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enuma_Elish)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-the-america-is-christian-bigots-were-out-in-force-saturday/788674/75 "2017-06-12T05:54:33Z")
So - white people who openly carry guns, but don’t use them are evil, but muslims who stab innocents with knives (or muslims who don’t find it within themselves to condemn other muslims who stab innocents with knives) are OK??? ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-the-america-is-christian-bigots-were-out-in-force-saturday/788674/76 "2017-06-12T06:11:10Z")
> [@Enuma\_Elish](#): > > So - white people who openly carry guns, but don’t use them are evil, but muslims who stab innocents with knives (or muslims who don’t find it within themselves to condemn other muslims who stab innocents with knives) are OK??? Wait…what? I’m leftist and am confused easily. How exactly did you make that incredible leap in logic? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-the-america-is-christian-bigots-were-out-in-force-saturday/788674/77 "2017-06-12T06:44:09Z")
> [@Enuma\_Elish](#): > > So - white people who openly carry guns, but don’t use them are evil, but muslims who stab innocents with knives (or muslims who don’t find it within themselves to condemn other muslims who stab innocents with knives) are OK??? Yep, we got ourselves another jackass, I tell you. Another jackass right here. > [@snfaulkner](#): > > Wait…what? I’m leftist and am confused easily. How exactly did you make that incredible leap in logic? 'Tweren’t logic. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-the-america-is-christian-bigots-were-out-in-force-saturday/788674/78 "2017-06-12T07:16:03Z")
Less of a carbon footprint with a knife. Also, the personal touch. Long as we’re being ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-the-america-is-christian-bigots-were-out-in-force-saturday/788674/79 "2017-06-12T10:14:33Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Who the fuck are you to decide what and when something bothers me? If you are trying to argue that there is no gender implied in the word bitch, then i imagine you can make that same argument for other words that have an implicit meaning coupled with the explicit. Yes. Language evolves. Who are you to decide what I am implying with my speech? I guess “pussy” has no gender implication. That’s why you saw fit to attack my use of “bitch” and not the tough guy’s use of “pussy”. It had nothing to do with how his politics of violence are much closer to your own. > [@](#): > > And the word puritanical is far from applying to me, trust me on that. Nor am i am elitist. As i said, i am just fucking tired of men applying a derogatory word for woman as some kind of cutting insult. I don’t know anything about your politics other than what I can infer from this exchange. You are in fact behaving like a white elitist puritanical progressive. You are trying to police speech in a conversation you are not involved in. > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Bolding mine: > > So do you just not believe in using the services of the police department, ever? :dubious: If there is anything you can infer from the statements you quoted it is that I believe casual calls for violence should be accompanied with skin-in-the-game. You don’t sit on your throne and call for people to be locked up with a flick of your wrist. Especially when as an elite white liberal you have no chance of state violence ever being used against you. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-the-america-is-christian-bigots-were-out-in-force-saturday/788674/80 "2017-06-12T11:12:14Z")
> [@Tee](#): > > It’s one of the more brilliant things to come from gaming culture, but not on the side of the good. Plausibly deniable links to white nationalism is a great way to troll people, and if they rope in the credulous, the militants, the joke only gets bigger and better. Except it’s not a troll. It’s not ironic. It immediately becomes self-referential and a \*bona fide \*symbol of hatred. Kind of like the “ok” sign - a 4chan group trolled a journalist telling her it was a white power sign, which they dutifully reported, at which point the alt-right had a good guffaw at them credulous libs… and now [they \*do \*use that OK sign as an in-group white power sign in earnest](https://twitter.com/lauren_southern/status/859080180001898496?lang=en). It’s become a badge of belonging and hating non-whites. Same goes for kek or pepe. While their existence as an innocuous meme (even a trolly one) might have been valid for about 20 seconds in the Marianas trench, they exist now as _de facto_ alt-right symbols with all of the deplorable that carries. Turns out, there’s not much practical difference between an honest to goodness Nazi, a guy who pretends to be a Nazi and does Nazi things “ironically” every day, and an honest to goodness Nazi pretending to be a guy who pretends to be a Nazi and does Nazi things all day long “ironically”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-the-america-is-christian-bigots-were-out-in-force-saturday/788674.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-the-america-is-christian-bigots-were-out-in-force-saturday/788674.md?page=5)