# Well, this is different. Garland shooting: 2 killed after they open fire at Mohammed cartoon event. **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [May 4, 2015, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-this-is-different-garland-shooting-2-killed-after-they-open-fire-at-mohammed-cartoon-event/719224 "2015-05-04T09:35:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2015, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-this-is-different-garland-shooting-2-killed-after-they-open-fire-at-mohammed-cartoon-event/719224/1 "2015-05-04T09:35:04Z")
[Good place to have a Mohammad 'toon convention?](http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/05/03/officer-and-two-suspects-down-in-gunfight-at-islamic-cartoon-contest-in-texas-possible-explosives-found/) ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2015, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-this-is-different-garland-shooting-2-killed-after-they-open-fire-at-mohammed-cartoon-event/719224/2 "2015-05-04T22:18:25Z")
**Good place to have a Mohammad 'toon convention?** Evidently not, for reasons that are now obvious. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2015, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-this-is-different-garland-shooting-2-killed-after-they-open-fire-at-mohammed-cartoon-event/719224/3 "2015-05-04T22:21:03Z")
I’d say it was the perfect place. Two down. Only a couple hundred million more dumbasses to go. ---
**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2015, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-this-is-different-garland-shooting-2-killed-after-they-open-fire-at-mohammed-cartoon-event/719224/4 "2015-05-04T22:35:58Z")
Well, all of this is none of my business, but on behalf of the\*\* Institute of Thought-Provoking Internet Remarks\*\*, I must thank you for linking to Breitbart: \*\*\*Jack Laurie \*_: American blacks and radical Muslims are the same…TERRORISTS and MURDERERS…example: Keith Ellison (D-MN)_ ---
**Author:** ![txtumbleweed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@txtumbleweed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/txtumbleweed)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2015, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-this-is-different-garland-shooting-2-killed-after-they-open-fire-at-mohammed-cartoon-event/719224/5 "2015-05-05T00:05:16Z")
The ISIS wannabe’s had initiative, body armor and AK-47’s. The police officer was armed with only his sidearm. That he not only survived but took down both assailants before they could do more harm was a heckuva job by the officer. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2015, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-this-is-different-garland-shooting-2-killed-after-they-open-fire-at-mohammed-cartoon-event/719224/6 "2015-05-05T00:08:57Z")
Somebody need to sketch their two sorry dead carcasses lying there. Then enter that sketch in the next cartoon contest. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2015, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-this-is-different-garland-shooting-2-killed-after-they-open-fire-at-mohammed-cartoon-event/719224/7 "2015-05-05T00:10:22Z")
> [@txtumbleweed](#): > > The ISIS wannabe’s had initiative, body armor and AK-47’s. The police officer was armed with only his sidearm. > > That he not only survived but took down both assailants before they could do more harm was a heckuva job by the officer. They weren’t pros. Possibly thought that full-auto would make up for a lack of shooting skills. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2015, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-this-is-different-garland-shooting-2-killed-after-they-open-fire-at-mohammed-cartoon-event/719224/8 "2015-05-05T00:21:00Z")
No, full auto makes the barrel climb. Didn’t their mothers teach them anything? I’m blaming their mothers for not raising them to be the good African-American/Muslim terrorists that Jack Laurie expects them to be. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2015, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-this-is-different-garland-shooting-2-killed-after-they-open-fire-at-mohammed-cartoon-event/719224/9 "2015-05-05T01:31:29Z")
The NBC new tonight said the organization holding the contest has been classified, by the Southern Poverty Law Center, as a hate group, and mentioned that it had to put up an extra $10,000 for security in order to hold the event at that site. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2015, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-this-is-different-garland-shooting-2-killed-after-they-open-fire-at-mohammed-cartoon-event/719224/10 "2015-05-05T01:37:07Z")
Well, looks like that “security” deposit was well spent. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2015, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-this-is-different-garland-shooting-2-killed-after-they-open-fire-at-mohammed-cartoon-event/719224/11 "2015-05-05T02:32:44Z")
Sad how useless our courts were in locking these two up. A 4 year investigation and they couldn’t even get Simpson on the no fly list. In a way, its good the two wanna be terrorists acted this stupidly. A bullet in each of their heads makes us all safer. Just imagine if they had selected a shopping mall. No preplanned event security to stop them. They could have killed a hundred or more. [http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/04/us-usa-shooting-texas-idUSKBN0NP01G20150504](http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/04/us-usa-shooting-texas-idUSKBN0NP01G20150504) > [@](#): > > Simpson was charged in 2010 with lying to FBI officials over discussions he had with an informant about his desire to travel to Somalia to engage in violent jihad and waived his right to a jury trial. > > U.S. District Judge Mary Murguia in 2011 found him guilty of making a false statement. She found insufficient evidence to conclude the false statement involved international terrorism. > > Simpson was sentenced to three years probation and ordered to pay $600 in fines and penalties. > > The court documents say federal authorities began monitoring Simpson in 2006 because he was associated with an individual the FBI believed was trying to set up a terrorist cell in Arizona. > > At one point, according to the documents, the FBI tried “unsuccessfully” to put Simpson on a U.S. government no-fly list. ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2015, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-this-is-different-garland-shooting-2-killed-after-they-open-fire-at-mohammed-cartoon-event/719224/12 "2015-05-05T03:25:27Z")
No comment that a “hate group” held an event specifically to troll terrorists? I dunno if you all remember - but wasn’t there also a TV show that set out to [troll Nascar fans](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKcJ-0bAHB4) to some interesting results? If you set out specifically to upset people - don’t be surprised at the results. Of course - we should be able to say anything we want about any religion at any time and to my mind - “forcing” the issue is the best way to make people realise that what I say cannot change their relationship to their god. That however, is a separate issue. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2015, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-this-is-different-garland-shooting-2-killed-after-they-open-fire-at-mohammed-cartoon-event/719224/13 "2015-05-05T04:19:58Z")
The thing is these would-be smiters of bogus sacrilege could not even understand that by attacking they were feeding the trolls. All they proved was exactly the organizers’ point. Bravo, dudes. In America, even Hate Groups are entitled to peaceably assemble as long as all they do is talk out of their asses and not actually organize or encourage aggressions; and trolling and causing offense are not crimes or merit being stopped with deadly force, while attempted murder OTOH is and does. [sidenote]OK, the jokes about their bad shooting are cute, but on the more serious side, their "AK-47"s may likely have been Norinco copies store-bought in Texas itself and semi-auto only. Still I would absolutely NOT want to go up against one with a standard police service sidearm. [/sidenote] ---
**Author:** ![ITR\_champion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2015, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-this-is-different-garland-shooting-2-killed-after-they-open-fire-at-mohammed-cartoon-event/719224/14 "2015-05-05T05:05:17Z")
It’s nice to see the police killing someone who should be killed, for a change. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2015, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-this-is-different-garland-shooting-2-killed-after-they-open-fire-at-mohammed-cartoon-event/719224/15 "2015-05-05T05:08:16Z")
This is a hate group I can get behind and support! Hell they should hold these in every city, get the religious nuts drawn out and shot easy peasy. Does anyone have an idea how we could bait violent christian nuts? ---
**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2015, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-this-is-different-garland-shooting-2-killed-after-they-open-fire-at-mohammed-cartoon-event/719224/16 "2015-05-05T06:27:39Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > The NBC new tonight said the organization holding the contest has been classified, by the Southern Poverty Law Center, as a hate group, and mentioned that it had to put up an extra $10,000 for security in order to hold the event at that site. As we’re in IMHO, the SPLC is a hate group. IMHO. They classified the Family Research Council as a hate group. Based on that, a man went to that group’s office planning to shoot as many people as he could but wound up bravely shooting an unarmed security guard. [http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/southern-poverty-law-center-website-triggered-frc-shooting/article/2520748](http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/southern-poverty-law-center-website-triggered-frc-shooting/article/2520748) > [@grude](#): > > This is a hate group I can get behind and support! > > Hell they should hold these in every city, get the religious nuts drawn out and shot easy peasy. > > Does anyone have an idea how we could bait violent christian nuts? First, find them. Do you have any serious candidates? I mean, other than the truly fringe groups leftists are desperately trying to exaggerate into a threat greater than radical Islam. “Piss Christ”? No violence. Ofili’s “Holy Mother Mary”? Had paint thrown over it. PZ Myers’ troll of his intent to defile the Catholic Eucharist? Threats. You’d have to up the ante. Maybe an invasion of a Catholic church and using the Eucharist in a homosexual act. But I wouldn’t count on it. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2015, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-this-is-different-garland-shooting-2-killed-after-they-open-fire-at-mohammed-cartoon-event/719224/17 "2015-05-05T09:13:51Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > No comment that a “hate group” held an event specifically to troll terrorists? > > I dunno if you all remember - but wasn’t there also a TV show that set out to [troll Nascar fans](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKcJ-0bAHB4) to some interesting results? > > If you set out specifically to upset people - don’t be surprised at the results. > > Of course - we should be able to say anything we want about any religion at any time and to my mind - “forcing” the issue is the best way to make people realise that what I say cannot change their relationship to their god. > > That however, is a separate issue. The fact that someone tells you they will kill you if you don’t toe their line is exactly the reason you shouldn’t toe their line. If they said “feel free to do what you want and draw what you want and we won’t hurt you. But be aware that it causes us distress” then these incidents would be far fewer. (not eliminated of course because dickheads are eternal) ---
**Author:** ![Bibliovore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Bibliovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bibliovore)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2015, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-this-is-different-garland-shooting-2-killed-after-they-open-fire-at-mohammed-cartoon-event/719224/18 "2015-05-05T10:19:30Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > I’d say it was the perfect place. Two down. Only a couple hundred million more dumbasses to go. By “couple hundred million more dumbasses”, I take it you mean Muslims in general? Am I reading that right? That all we need is a couple hundred million more bullets to put in their heads? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2015, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-this-is-different-garland-shooting-2-killed-after-they-open-fire-at-mohammed-cartoon-event/719224/19 "2015-05-05T10:25:46Z")
> [@grude](#): > > This is a hate group I can get behind and support! > > Hell they should hold these in every city, get the religious nuts drawn out and shot easy peasy. > > Does anyone have an idea how we could bait violent christian nuts? I sincerely hope you read this over again and see the huge problem with this sentiment. Even if you restrict yourself to violent Christians, you’re saying they are more worthy of a police-administered death penalty than other violent people. Heck, you actually uttered the words “this is a hate group I can get behind.” > [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > The fact that someone tells you they will kill you if you don’t toe their line is exactly the reason you shouldn’t toe their line. > > If they said “feel free to do what you want and draw what you want and we won’t hurt you. But be aware that it causes us distress” then these incidents would be far fewer. (not eliminated of course because dickheads are eternal) The vast majority of Muslims do say that. Why should these terrorists get to control what we do? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2015, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-this-is-different-garland-shooting-2-killed-after-they-open-fire-at-mohammed-cartoon-event/719224/20 "2015-05-05T10:36:41Z")
> [@Bibliovore](#): > > By “couple hundred million more dumbasses”, I take it you mean Muslims in general? Am I reading that right? That all we need is a couple hundred million more bullets to put in their heads? While he’s greatly overestimating the number of [jihadis](http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/26/opinion/bergen-schneider-how-many-jihadists/), you are greatly underestimating the number of [Muslims](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_world) in the world. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-this-is-different-garland-shooting-2-killed-after-they-open-fire-at-mohammed-cartoon-event/719224.md?page=2)