# Welll Looky here. Ex-Fox News host Gretchen Carlson sues network head Roger Ailes for sexual... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 6, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welll-looky-here-ex-fox-news-host-gretchen-carlson-sues-network-head-roger-ailes-for-sexual/759253 "2016-07-06T19:47:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welll-looky-here-ex-fox-news-host-gretchen-carlson-sues-network-head-roger-ailes-for-sexual/759253/21 "2016-07-06T23:29:25Z")
No no no … Candice Burgman was her boss … her name was Corkie something … ETA: nm … Corky Sherwood … _Murphy Brown_ was a lot funnier than FoxNews IMEIO ETA ETA: Corky was better looking too … ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welll-looky-here-ex-fox-news-host-gretchen-carlson-sues-network-head-roger-ailes-for-sexual/759253/22 "2016-07-06T23:31:55Z")
Updated **Wonkette** on Roger’s dick. Worth reading in that Evan Hurst is much funnier than Gary Legum. Bonus points for “[having sex with Roger Ailes] which, we must emphasize, involves human contact with Roger Ailes’s naked body and genital _accoutrements_.” > **[Fox News's Gretchen Carlson Allegedly Fired For Refusing To Bang Roger Ailes...](https://www.wonkette.com/fox-newss-gretchen-carlson-allegedly-fired-for-refusing-to-bang-roger-ailes-on-his-penis)** > > Carlson shockingly alleges in a lawsuit that Fox News is a really sexist, bad place for women. Who knew??? ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welll-looky-here-ex-fox-news-host-gretchen-carlson-sues-network-head-roger-ailes-for-sexual/759253/23 "2016-07-06T23:37:46Z")
Missed the edit window … and suddenly the wisdom of such a feature becomes blindingly clear … ---
**Author:** ![elliott](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b5ac83/32.png) [@elliott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elliott)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welll-looky-here-ex-fox-news-host-gretchen-carlson-sues-network-head-roger-ailes-for-sexual/759253/24 "2016-07-06T23:40:10Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > If you wanted to be accepted and treated like a real journalist, you should have signed up with a real news organization. “If I don’t like your work, you deserve to be sexually harassed” you’re a bit of an asshole tbqh ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welll-looky-here-ex-fox-news-host-gretchen-carlson-sues-network-head-roger-ailes-for-sexual/759253/25 "2016-07-06T23:48:43Z")
> [@elliott](#): > > “If I don’t like your work, you deserve to be sexually harassed” > > you’re a bit of an asshole tbqh Really. You can stand back, look objectively at Fox News, and tell yourself “Nope…no way is that an organization where the pigs in charge would treat the female employees like ambulatory sex dolls.” “Welcome to Ass Pinchers, Inc., babycakes. Girls’ dress code calls for yoga pants, every day.” ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welll-looky-here-ex-fox-news-host-gretchen-carlson-sues-network-head-roger-ailes-for-sexual/759253/26 "2016-07-06T23:52:27Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > If you wanted to be accepted and treated like a real journalist, you should have signed up with a real news organization. She went to Fox from CBS, so she started with a real news organization. However, > [@elliott](#): > > “If I don’t like your work, you deserve to be sexually harassed” > > you’re a bit of an asshole tbqh What \*\*elliott \*\*said. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welll-looky-here-ex-fox-news-host-gretchen-carlson-sues-network-head-roger-ailes-for-sexual/759253/27 "2016-07-07T00:03:50Z")
> [@elliott](#): > > “If I don’t like your work, you deserve to be sexually harassed” > > you’re a bit of an asshole tbqh Really? Because I don’t think that’s what **Steve MB** was saying. I think it was more like, “if you go down into the sewer, expect to encounter sewage and sewer rats”. _ **Of course** _ Gretchen is justified in her complaint, if the facts are accurate. It’s just that she may have been a bit naive in thinking of Fox News as a normal broadcaster, or an environment with normal ethical standards. ---
**Author:** ![elliott](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b5ac83/32.png) [@elliott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elliott)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welll-looky-here-ex-fox-news-host-gretchen-carlson-sues-network-head-roger-ailes-for-sexual/759253/28 "2016-07-07T00:15:23Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Really. You can stand back, look objectively at Fox News, and tell yourself “Nope…no way is that an organization where the pigs in charge would treat the female employees like ambulatory sex dolls.” > > “Welcome to Ass Pinchers, Inc., babycakes. Girls’ dress code calls for yoga pants, every day.” Cool victim blaming dude I’m sure you’re not actually an asshole then!!! ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welll-looky-here-ex-fox-news-host-gretchen-carlson-sues-network-head-roger-ailes-for-sexual/759253/29 "2016-07-07T00:27:23Z")
And you are…? ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welll-looky-here-ex-fox-news-host-gretchen-carlson-sues-network-head-roger-ailes-for-sexual/759253/30 "2016-07-07T00:32:34Z")
The fact that this came out a week or two after her contract wasn’t renewed is suspicious. ---
**Author:** ![koeeoaddi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/koeeoaddi/32/408_2.png) [@koeeoaddi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koeeoaddi)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welll-looky-here-ex-fox-news-host-gretchen-carlson-sues-network-head-roger-ailes-for-sexual/759253/31 "2016-07-07T00:45:57Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > No, she was [the receptionist.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loni_Anderson) I thought she was the stoned doorman. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welll-looky-here-ex-fox-news-host-gretchen-carlson-sues-network-head-roger-ailes-for-sexual/759253/32 "2016-07-07T00:46:43Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > No, that’s her on the extreme right. Well played. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welll-looky-here-ex-fox-news-host-gretchen-carlson-sues-network-head-roger-ailes-for-sexual/759253/33 "2016-07-07T01:48:36Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > The fact that this came out a week or two after her contract wasn’t renewed is suspicious. How? You don’t sue for losing your job if you still have it. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welll-looky-here-ex-fox-news-host-gretchen-carlson-sues-network-head-roger-ailes-for-sexual/759253/34 "2016-07-07T02:09:17Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > Wait … what? … isn’t Gretchen Carlson just a fictional character in the sitcom FoxNews … or am I thinking of another former Miss America? Well, in her complaint, Carlson said that Ailes told her had slept with three other Miss Americas. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welll-looky-here-ex-fox-news-host-gretchen-carlson-sues-network-head-roger-ailes-for-sexual/759253/35 "2016-07-07T02:16:18Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Really? Because I don’t think that’s what **Steve MB** was saying. I think it was more like, “if you go down into the sewer, expect to encounter sewage and sewer rats”. And that’s different from, “If you don’t want to be sexually harrassed, don’t dress like that”… _how_, exactly? ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welll-looky-here-ex-fox-news-host-gretchen-carlson-sues-network-head-roger-ailes-for-sexual/759253/36 "2016-07-07T02:21:46Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > And that’s different from, “If you don’t want to be sexually harrassed, don’t dress like that”… _how_, exactly? Isn’t it a reference to how she was treated as a journalist by Doocy and not the sex charge against Ailes? ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welll-looky-here-ex-fox-news-host-gretchen-carlson-sues-network-head-roger-ailes-for-sexual/759253/37 "2016-07-07T02:21:56Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > And that’s different from, “If you don’t want to be sexually harrassed, don’t dress like that”… _how_, exactly? Fox requires their Hot Blondes to dress in ass skimming dresses. See their “no pants” rule. See my previous post, the one that elliott misunderstood. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welll-looky-here-ex-fox-news-host-gretchen-carlson-sues-network-head-roger-ailes-for-sexual/759253/38 "2016-07-07T02:38:12Z")
So, she wouldn’t bump uglies with the Boss, and she loses her job. The other vacuous blonde just got a big promotion. Not casting any asparagus here, but, well, there it is. Just sayin’, is all. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welll-looky-here-ex-fox-news-host-gretchen-carlson-sues-network-head-roger-ailes-for-sexual/759253/39 "2016-07-07T04:15:04Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > And that’s different from, “If you don’t want to be sexually harrassed, don’t dress like that”… _how_, exactly? How about in the way that it wasn’t at all a comment on being sexually harassed but on being a “real” journalist that works for what is not exactly a real journalism organization? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welll-looky-here-ex-fox-news-host-gretchen-carlson-sues-network-head-roger-ailes-for-sexual/759253/40 "2016-07-07T05:39:26Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > And that’s different from, “If you don’t want to be sexually harrassed, don’t dress like that”… _how_, exactly? Well, certainly different in that my very next sentence plainly states that if the facts are accurate – and I rather suspect that they are – then her complaint is fully justified, and to be perfectly clear I mean both legally and morally. You seem to be trying to read a “blame the victim” innuendo into that comment that isn’t there at all. It’s just so oddly incongruous and rather humorous trying to hold Fox News up to the standards of a real news organization, but since that’s what they pretend they are, it’s a fair position to take in a legal suit. She has every right to complain about sexual harassment, and even more so to complain about losing her job over it. But I’m entitled to make an editorial comment about her poor judgment for choosing to work for a bunch of unethical dipshits and their cohort of decorative blonde bimbos. Who you choose to work for, what you do for them, and the ethical values it reflects are all consequential lifestyle decisions and are a whole lot different than how you choose to dress. None of it mitigates what happened to her, it just reflects the unsurprising fact that if you choose to work with unethical dipshits you might be treated unethically. But no one should ever face threats and sexual harassment in any job, and I’d love to see Ailes hung out to dry for this. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welll-looky-here-ex-fox-news-host-gretchen-carlson-sues-network-head-roger-ailes-for-sexual/759253.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welll-looky-here-ex-fox-news-host-gretchen-carlson-sues-network-head-roger-ailes-for-sexual/759253.md?page=3)