# Welp, guess I won't be seeing "Passengers" then **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 18, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069 "2016-12-18T19:15:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MostlyClueless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@MostlyClueless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MostlyClueless)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/1 "2016-12-18T19:15:35Z")
All right. Saw some trailers, and really liked the look of things. Pushes most of my buttons. Scifi? Yup. Cool design and style? Yup. Mystery? Ticked that box. So the reason why I’m not going to see it is a spoiler, and it’s explained in more detail here: > **[Chris Pratt and Jennifer Lawrence's Passengers isn't a romance: it's a creepy...](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2016/12/16/chris-pratt-jennifer-lawrences-passengers-isnt-romance-creepy/)** > > Contains major plot spoilers for the film Passengers, and some spoilers for Interstellar So yeah. Glad I’m not going to spend money on that bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/2 "2016-12-18T20:02:05Z")
The link above has a “click jacking” link on mobile devices, it attempts to force-reroute the viewer to one of those stupid “you win a brand new \, click “OK” to claim your prize” scam sites I’d recommend breaking your link ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/3 "2016-12-18T20:11:51Z")
Try [this link](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2016/12/16/chris-pratt-jennifer-lawrences-passengers-isnt-romance-creepy/) or [this one.](http://www.theverge.com/2016/12/17/13972966/passengers-ending-titanic-there-was-room) This movie may win an award…for most deceptive trailer for a major motion picture. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/4 "2016-12-18T20:52:55Z")
Shelve it next to _Overboard_, the Kurt Russell/Goldie Hawn laugher about rape by deception. Too bad. The pieces have such potential. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/5 "2016-12-18T20:55:18Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > Shelve it next to _Overboard_, the Kurt Russell/Goldie Hawn laugher about rape by deception. > > Too bad. The \*\*pieces \*\*have such potential. Bolding mine. Yes they do. Yeah, what a stinker of a movie it sounds like. And I too was getting a bit excited about it (well before this thread obviously). I wonder if they found the guy drowned in their equivalent of the holodeck? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/6 "2016-12-18T20:58:49Z")
The movie the trailer showed had promise…then again, so did the trailer to _Bridge to Terabithia_. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/7 "2016-12-18T21:55:46Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > The movie the trailer showed had promise…then again, so did the trailer to _Bridge to Terabithia_. I’m curious, are you complaining that the trailer didn’t accurately reflect the movie, or that the movie wasn’t a Harry Potter / Narnia clone? Because (having been familiar with the book loooooooong before the movie) it was the trailer that was crap, deliberately misleading you about the tone of the movie. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/8 "2016-12-18T21:58:15Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > I’m curious, are you complaining that the trailer didn’t accurately show the movie, or that the movie wasn’t a Harry Potter / Narnia clone? The first. ---
**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/9 "2016-12-18T22:26:02Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > Shelve it next to _Overboard_, the Kurt Russell/Goldie Hawn laugher about rape by deception. Based on this comparison and the rape mention in the review: But sure, let’s ignore this and rush into a ticking-clock save-the-ship finale so we can have some cool action shots for the trailer while avoiding the rape culture-promoting plot twist that lingers over this film like a child predator at the edge of a playground. What do the plot details as mentioned in the review have to do with rape? Deception, yes. Rape? ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/10 "2016-12-18T22:30:59Z")
> [@ganthet](#): > > But sure, let’s ignore this and rush into a ticking-clock save-the-ship finale so we can have some cool action shots for the trailer while avoiding the rape culture-promoting plot twist that lingers over this film like a child predator at the edge of a playground. > > ? What? A middle aged guy like me can’t give free candy to cute kids? What kind of country IS this? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/11 "2016-12-19T00:22:07Z")
[Moderating] I changed the link in the first post to a hopefully better-behaved one. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/12 "2016-12-19T00:27:29Z")
[Not moderating] Ugh, I just read that review, and anyone who would actually want to see that, I sure as heck wouldn’t want to be in a dark theater with. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/13 "2016-12-19T00:31:31Z")
I’m now trying to imagine the movie being scripted the other way around. ---
**Author:** ![dracoi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@dracoi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dracoi)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/14 "2016-12-19T01:28:13Z")
Well, people keep playing “Every Breath You Take” at weddings too. And they still think Jack Bauer is the hero of 24. People largely project what they want to see onto entertainment like that. The idea of a creepy psychological thriller sounds like it has promise, but if the film isn’t going to address one of its underpinnings, that will be extremely disappointing to me. I haven’t seen anything but the information in the review, but it sounds like there would have been many ways to fix the movie without substantial changes to the script and that’s even more disappointing. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/15 "2016-12-19T01:58:47Z")
The simplest fix would have been to make both accidents. Assuming that the parts that we’re finding creepy weren’t the writer’s entire point to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/16 "2016-12-19T02:41:23Z")
Quote not working, but I didn’t say the plot had anything to do with rape - although if the characters end up sexually involved at any point, arguments could be made for it being rape by deception/coercion. \*Overboard \*is a different story. “Yes, you’re really my wife who has amnesia. Now take your clothes off.” Ha ha, yuk yuk. ---
**Author:** ![dracoi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@dracoi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dracoi)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/17 "2016-12-19T02:58:11Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > I’m now trying to imagine the movie being scripted the other way around. What I’d love to see is a very serious and probably disturbing look at how badly people deal with long-term isolation. Have him release her from suspended animation after basically going crazy from isolation. Acknowledge just how wrong it is for him to do that, but make us sympathize with him anyway. (And, just to please the people from the other movie thread tonight: then we can have them break out into a jazzy song and dance number to express their feelings for each other. 😛 ) ---
**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/18 "2016-12-19T02:58:37Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > Quote not working, but I didn’t say the plot had anything to do with rape - although if the characters end up sexually involved at any point, arguments could be made for it being rape by deception/coercion I haven’t seen _Overboard_, so I can’t speak to its plot, but I was just curious why you specifically compared it to another movie whose plot featured subjective or objective rape and that this seemed to be somewhat echoed by the reviewer who referenced “rape culture” when describing the movie. At least going by the description of the plot in the review, even calling it rape by deception/coercion doesn’t seem accurate. There doesn’t seem to be any coercion - force or threats to her or anyone in particular by the male character. As to deception, the male character only seems to lie about the cause of the female character waking up, not deceiving her about anything that caused her in and of itself to have sex with him like your description of the plot in _Overboard_, where a male character lies about his relationship to an amnesiac female character to create false intimacy. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/19 "2016-12-19T03:04:17Z")
What’s described in that review isn’t rape of any sort, but I don’t think it’s much of a stretch to say that it’s “sort of like rape”, or “characteristic of a rape culture”, or anything like that. What it’s closest to is probably kidnapping, though our current society and laws don’t have anything that’s quite completely congruent. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/20 "2016-12-19T04:24:22Z")
I was hoping that the female lead turned out to be an android. That the movie, as described, becomes a romance is incomprehensible. This was the hottest unmade script floating around Hollywood? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069.md?page=2)