# Welp, guess I won't be seeing "Passengers" then **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 18, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069 "2016-12-18T19:15:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/101 "2016-12-28T15:50:07Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > [32% on Rotten Tomatoes with a 69% audience score.](https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/passengers_2016) Pass. I have found RT to be incredibly inaccurate far too many times. This is one of them. The movie is great. I voted it a 10 on IMDB. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/102 "2016-12-28T15:54:59Z")
Rotten Tomatoes is in fact accurate - a fairly accurate overview of the opinions of major print and online critics. The fact that you or I don’t always agree with the majority of those opinions doesn’t make it any less accurate. Whether or not it accurately predicts that you’ll enjoy a specific movie is something else. I’d argue that that’s not its job. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/103 "2016-12-28T17:09:29Z")
32% fresh means, basically, that a third of all critics liked it, and two thirds didn’t. Even if we assume that critics are an accurate cross-section of the general moviegoing public, that just means that you agreed with the third of critics that liked it, instead of with the two thirds who didn’t. That’s hardly remarkable. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/104 "2016-12-30T15:09:43Z")
> [@dracoi](#): > > What I’d love to see is a very serious and probably disturbing look at how badly people deal with long-term isolation. Have him release her from suspended animation after basically going crazy from isolation. Acknowledge just how wrong it is for him to do that, but make us sympathize with him anyway. Saw the movie last night, and liked it quite a bit - and I’m normally very sensitive to how women are treated in movies. I think they did address it this way: Pratt’s character was desperate and despondent from isolation, and comes close to stepping out of an airlock without a spacesuit before he accidentally spots Lawrence. He then wrestles with the temptation to wake her up for, apparently, months before he gives in to the constant and unending torment. They might have done a better job at portraying his torment, or written it so that he held out longer for a year, but in the end I thought that his actions (while no less terrible and despicable) were understandable. And the aftermath - his guilt; her fury and grief when she learns the truth - is dealt with. Their reunion and happy ending are a bit Hollywood-ish and pat, but I think the central complaint that this movie is an offense to women is off base. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/105 "2017-01-01T03:18:39Z")
> [@](#): > > In Christopher Nolan’s Interstellar, a film in which a character commits an act which is arguably a little similar to Jim’s (both in terms of morality and motivation), the man in question, Matt Damon’s Dr Mann, certainly isn’t shown as a romantic lead, but as an antagonist. I’d say the stakes (the survival of humanity) were just slightly higher in _Interstellar_. I haven’t seen _Passengers_, but I think it’s easy for any of us to insist we wouldn’t give in to this temptation, not having walked a mile in Pratt’s moon boots. ---
**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2017, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/106 "2017-01-02T01:26:38Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > (24 hours) > Jack is post-911 America personified. Any means are justified to get to the ends desired. Jack is “you’re with me, or against me.” He’s everything that went wrong with this country in 2001. (My personal conspiracy theory is that the show was created by the Bush administration as a low-level brainwashing of the American public. Get people used to torture and lack of civil rights as a thing the good guys do.) > > . invasion of Iraq 2003–2011 The Dark Knight. 2008: Vigilante violence is OK when your motives are pure. My personal theory is that the American public wanted someone to tell them they’d done the right thing. It was popular in Aus too. ---
**Author:** ![Nom\_de\_Plume](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/85f322/32.png) [@Nom\_de\_Plume](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nom_de_Plume)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/107 "2017-01-05T02:14:44Z")
I’ve read a lot of posts talking about a rapey feel or Stockholm syndrome, but I didn’t see it. I saw a desperate man make a bad decision at a point when circumstances had pushed him to extreme measures. I also didn’t see her final acceptance of him as either Stockholm syndrome or cheesy Hollywood ending. I think she empathized with his plight when she thought he might die. She didn’t suddenly say “I love you,” or “I forgive you.” She said, “i can’t live on this ship without you.” She was (almost) willing to sacrifice the lives of 5,000 other people to keep from living alone on the ship. She understood what he went through and that need for human contact. Yes, he did a horrible thing, but she finally understood what drove him to it. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/108 "2017-01-05T02:37:07Z")
> [@Melbourne](#): > > invasion of Iraq 2003–2011 > > The Dark Knight. 2008: Vigilante violence is OK when your motives are pure. > > My personal theory is that the American public wanted someone to tell them they’d done the right thing. It was popular in Aus too. I liked it cause it was fairly unpredictable. And fun to riff. ---
**Author:** ![flyingsid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bcef8e/32.png) [@flyingsid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flyingsid)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069/109 "2017-01-05T03:56:09Z")
I don’t judge until I get the audience reviews that is from those who really watched it. Most of the medias these days are spreading false reviews and previews. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welp-guess-i-wont-be-seeing-passengers-then/775069.md?page=5)