# Welsh rarebit

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welsh-rarebit/824329>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 11, 2018, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welsh-rarebit/824329 "2018-11-11T00:30:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welsh-rarebit/824329/21 "2018-11-11T16:26:34Z")

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God, we’re a highly educated bunch.

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**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welsh-rarebit/824329/22 "2018-11-11T17:14:40Z")

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Educated, but not always on point with our answers. #10 is the only one that actually addresses my question. Thanks Mahaloth.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welsh-rarebit/824329/23 "2018-11-11T17:24:35Z")

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> [@markn\_1](#):
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> Educated, but not always on point with our answers. #10 is the only one that actually addresses my question. Thanks Mahaloth.

**Yorkshire Pudding** , who I believe is British, answered it in #3, as well.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welsh-rarebit/824329/24 "2018-11-11T17:36:08Z")

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You could also go to Youtube and sample how various British cooks pronounce it. For example, [Jamie Oliver](https://youtu.be/tgDakYCQnvs?t=84) says what to me as a US speaker sounds like RAIR-bit. Here’s [Julie Bloomenthal pronouncing it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hulufrkljiQ&feature=youtu.be&t=7), and it sounds more like “rab-bit,” but the “Welsh” also sounds different to my ears. [Gordon Ramsey’s](https://youtu.be/fYBRZjkDxVk?t=233) is similar, but sounds closer to “rair-bit” with a dropped “r” than “rabbit” to me ears; like the second time he says Welsh “rarebit,” I could almost swear I hear a soft r in there. This seems to me to be the pronunciation **Yorkshire Pudding** is describing. [This Welsh chef](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaS7YYzx5WI) pronounced it more like a clear “RAIR-bit.” As you can hear, it certainly varies depending on your accent.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welsh-rarebit/824329/25 "2018-11-11T17:42:21Z")

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> [@markn\_1](#):
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> Educated, but not always on point with our answers. #10 is the only one that actually addresses my question. Thanks Mahaloth.

The key to higher education is digression. Also rambling on about nonsense.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welsh-rarebit/824329/26 "2018-11-11T17:55:33Z")

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So checking with [Cambridge Dictionary](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/welsh-rarebit?q=rarebit), it gives the non-rhotic pronunciation **Yorkshire Bubble** was describing:

/reə.bɪt/

So the vowel is a diphthong, like “reh-uh-bit” but imagine the eh-uh smooshed together. (And some American dialects also have this centering diphthong. Like I pronounce “air” with an /ɛə/ or /eə/ vowel, so far as I can tell.) “Rabbit” has the usual short “a” vowel in both US and UK English, which is /ae/.

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**Author:** ![Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/59ef9b/32.png) [@Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorkshire_Pudding)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welsh-rarebit/824329/27 "2018-11-11T23:35:22Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> **Yorkshire Pudding** , who I believe is British, answered it in #3, as well.

I am indeed. British, Linguistics graduate from a Welsh University (so sorry about the lack of IPA), the whole nine yards. And in fact, had I not gone back to edit the damn thing, I’d have actually been the first response.

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