# Wench Auction Cancelled! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 30, 2017, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wench-auction-cancelled/790189 "2017-06-30T11:54:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wench-auction-cancelled/790189/1 "2017-06-30T11:54:16Z")
> [@](#): > > **Disney To Remove ‘Wench Auction’ From Pirates Of The Caribbean Ride** > **[Disney To Remove 'Wench Auction' From Pirates Of The Caribbean Ride](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pirates-of-the-caribbean-auction-scene_n_5955c6d9e4b0da2c7322631c?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009)** > > "The Redhead" will now be one of the pirates. So much to comment on here… > [@](#): > > One of the most memorable scenes on one of Disney’s most iconic rides is getting a major makeover. > The company announced on Thursday that Pirates of the Caribbean will replace the auction scene in which women are sold off as brides with an auction for plundered goods. > Artwork released by Disney showed that the sign which read “AUCTION” and “Take a wench for a bride” will soon feature the words: “AUCTION” and “SURRENDER YER LOOT.” What are they going to do with the remaining wenches? Will they be remaindered? Or maybe a fire sale? > [@](#): > > That’s not the only change. > The character known as “the redhead” ― the object of affection as the pirates shout “we wants the redhead” ― will enjoy a role reversal. Instead of being auctioned off, she will become one of the plunderers. > “Our team thought long and hard about how best to update this scene,” Kathy Mangum, a senior vice president with Disney Imagineering, said in a news release. “Given the redhead has long been a fan favorite, we wanted to keep her as a pivotal part of the story, so we made her a plundering pirate!” Promoted from Auctioned Wench to Featured Pirate. Well, I guess that’s progress…or something. > [@](#): > > Disney has altered Pirates before to remove some of its more politically incorrect elements. In 1997, a scene in which pirates were chasing women was changed to the women holding pies (thus to indicate the buccaneers were pursuing food rather than the ladies). I’ve been to Disney since 1997, and I honestly don’t recall the switch from Pirate Lust to Pirate Gluttony. I need to pay closer attention to theme park rides. > [@](#): > > “There is very little that is politically correct about Pirates of the Caribbean,” Paul Pressler, then president of the Disneyland resort, told the Los Angeles Times in an interview at the time. “In fact, in order to be politically correct, we would probably have to close down the whole ride.” > One of the ride’s original designers later admitted he wasn’t crazy about some of those changes. > “Nobody asked me but my reaction was this is Pirates of the Caribbean not Boy Scouts of the Caribbean!” Disney Legend X Atencio, who also wrote the ride’s iconic “Yo Ho” song, said last year in an interview with D23, the company’s official fan club. “Boy Scouts of the Caribbean” would make for an interesting ride (“Awesome! Educational! Boring!”). We could see them studying up for merit badges, ineptly starting fires, and wreaking havoc as they practice for their Totin’ Chips. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wench-auction-cancelled/790189/2 "2017-06-30T11:55:57Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > What are they going to do with the remaining wenches? Will they be remaindered? Or maybe a fire sale? I’ll bid 2 barrels of rum for the redhead. ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wench-auction-cancelled/790189/3 "2017-06-30T11:58:10Z")
_“Arghhhh, Ms Jane lass, congratulations on your successful transition.”_ ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wench-auction-cancelled/790189/4 "2017-06-30T12:28:36Z")
Actually, the changes are more radical than they are admitting. [Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60BjkUtqxPE) is a small bit of bootleg footage of the updated ride. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wench-auction-cancelled/790189/5 "2017-06-30T13:29:40Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Actually, the changes are more radical than they are admitting. [Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60BjkUtqxPE) is a small bit of bootleg footage of the updated ride. Lol on that clip. This is such a stupid, unneeded and baffling move that I still don’t see why they’re doing it. Has anybody even complained over that ride? I’m not one to hold on to the past and pull the “never change it because it’s old!”, and (dirty secret time) I don’t particularly like the ride anyway, but this change accomplishes absolutely nothing. Frankly, the worst part is that they’re going to have to close the ride for a bit to change it, which will make my Haunted Mansion line even longer ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wench-auction-cancelled/790189/6 "2017-06-30T13:53:54Z")
Good News ! No horrors in the future Haunted Mansion, just silent respectful participation listening to professional ethicists ( journalists who like the sound of their own voices ) vivaciously instructing on what you should think on any subject on earth. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wench-auction-cancelled/790189/7 "2017-06-30T14:06:39Z")
This isn’t about a realistic portrayal of Piracy. This is about the ongoing nature of the ride for newcomer kids. I see no real problem with the idea, really. But then, I’ve never been to Disneyland, so have no nostalgic attachment. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wench-auction-cancelled/790189/8 "2017-06-30T14:25:13Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > This isn’t about a realistic portrayal of Piracy. This is about the ongoing nature of the ride for newcomer kids. I see no real problem with the idea, really. But then, I’ve never been to Disneyland, so have no nostalgic attachment. Then why not continue whoring the ride out to the movies? I can only speak to Disneyworld’s version, but other than a small nod in the beginning, and having Jack sparrow show up here and there, there isn’t much of a coherent story in that ride anyway. If you wanted to change the ride to appeal to first-timers, then why not just gut the scene entirely and put the Pirate council, or another mermaid, or something from the movies? At least that change would make sense. ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wench-auction-cancelled/790189/9 "2017-06-30T14:27:51Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > This isn’t about a realistic portrayal of Piracy. This is about the ongoing nature of the ride for newcomer kids. I see no real problem with the idea, really. But then, I’ve never been to Disneyland, so have no nostalgic attachment. I agree with this. Look, if you’re coming to the Pirates of the Caribbean ride in order to get the low down on pirate culture for your history class dissertation, you’re doing it wrong. I went on the ride when I was about 12 years old and it was one of the favorite things I did on that California vacation. Well, that and visiting the beach with the half naked girls everywhere. I think the mood and the style of the ride are what makes it what it is. They can play around with the PCness of it and probably should as it’s a ride for kids. So long as you’re riding a little boat through a dark cave with spooky animatronic pirates and with gun powder going off, it will still be something kids will enjoy and remember. ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wench-auction-cancelled/790189/10 "2017-06-30T14:29:02Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > Then why not continue whoring the ride out to the movies? I can only speak to Disneyworld’s version, but other than a small nod in the beginning, and having Jack sparrow show up here and there, there isn’t much of a coherent story in that ride anyway. If you wanted to change the ride to appeal to first-timers, then why not just gut the scene entirely and put the Pirate council, or another mermaid, or something from the movies? > > At least that change would make sense. Ok yeah, I too am curious why not just go all the way and make it about the movie. My guess is probably money, though. these changes ar eprobably cheaper than remaking the whole thing into a Jack sparrow spectacular. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wench-auction-cancelled/790189/11 "2017-06-30T14:37:50Z")
Its not the first PC change to PotC. Originally, there was a scene with a couple pirates chasing ladies…and one lady chasing a pirate…that was removed. I know our delicate sensibilities won’t tolerate such tomfoolery today. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wench-auction-cancelled/790189/12 "2017-06-30T14:58:37Z")
> [@Kinthalis](#): > > with gun powder going off, it will still be something kids will enjoy and remember. [[PC Principal]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D0rJGm_fZY) They need to get rid of the guns. Guns are bad Bro and make impressionable children think they are toys to take to school and shoot the other kids with. When will Disney take responsibility for corrupting our youth? [[PC Principal]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2o98NPw6CU) ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wench-auction-cancelled/790189/13 "2017-06-30T15:51:52Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > I’ll bid 2 barrels of rum for the redhead. Arrr, you can have me sister for one. She’s a virgin, and her children aren’t home. ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wench-auction-cancelled/790189/14 "2017-06-30T15:53:21Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > [[PC Principal]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D0rJGm_fZY) They need to get rid of the guns. Guns are bad Bro and make impressionable children think they are toys to take to school and shoot the other kids with. When will Disney take responsibility for corrupting our youth? [[PC Principal]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2o98NPw6CU) Go ahead and take the guns away, but not the cannons! ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wench-auction-cancelled/790189/15 "2017-06-30T15:56:27Z")
> [@Kinthalis](#): > > So long as you’re riding a little boat through a dark cave with spooky animatronic pirates and with gun powder going off, it will still be something kids will enjoy and remember. Up until they replace all the flintlock pistols with walkie-talkies. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wench-auction-cancelled/790189/16 "2017-06-30T16:34:38Z")
Nothing says, “Happiest Place on Earth!” like selling women into sexual slavery. Dang those humorless feminists for spoiling the fun. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wench-auction-cancelled/790189/17 "2017-07-01T00:29:26Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > This isn’t about a realistic portrayal of Piracy. It kinda used to be. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wench-auction-cancelled/790189/18 "2017-07-01T00:41:40Z")
I, for one, support the right of wenches to earn a living. I can’t see how closing down one of their career paths will help things at all. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wench-auction-cancelled/790189/19 "2017-07-01T01:01:53Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > It kinda used to be. Really? I always got the idea it was more akin to _Treasure Island_, which is also a storybook bastardisation of real Piratical endeavours. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wench-auction-cancelled/790189/20 "2017-07-01T09:31:38Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > It kinda used to be. > [@GuanoLad](#): > > Really? I always got the idea it was more akin to _Treasure Island_, which is also a storybook bastardisation of real Piratical endeavours. I guess it depends on whether you consider the Barbary Corsairs to be “pirates”. They _did_ raid entire coastal cities and take and sell slaves. Caribbean independent pirates in the golden age of piracy, not as much (although it may have happened a couple of times, I dunno.) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wench-auction-cancelled/790189.md?page=2)