# Wendy Davis for Governor of Texas? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 5, 2013, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wendy-davis-for-governor-of-texas/662685 "2013-07-05T02:59:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wendy-davis-for-governor-of-texas/662685/181 "2014-02-18T02:43:46Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Hell, I love Texas. If all the bassackwards, knuckle walking Trogs would just move back to Oklahoma, things be a damn sight better! It would certainly raise the average IQ of both states. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wendy-davis-for-governor-of-texas/662685/182 "2014-02-18T03:07:01Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Hell, I love Texas. If all the bassackwards, knuckle walking Trogs would just move back to Oklahoma, things be a damn sight better! Oh, come on! I say, you’re doin’ fine, O-K-L . . . O-C-L . . . whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wendy-davis-for-governor-of-texas/662685/183 "2014-02-18T06:19:35Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > Molly Ivins didn’t get “sarcastic” when drunk (as she invaraibly was), she got violent. > > When she got drunk, she didn’t just make catty remarks, she punched people- even knocking out two of Billy Porterfield’s teeth. > > [http://www.commondreams.org/headlines07/0205-06.htm](http://www.commondreams.org/headlines07/0205-06.htm) > > She HAD to have been fun to be with at least SOME of the time, because even Porterfield now tries to make Ivins’ violence seem like a charming quirk. She was also credibly accused of plagiarizing Florence King, a conservative humorist who made William F. Buckley look like Jimmy Carter. [http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/003155.html](http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/003155.html) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wendy-davis-for-governor-of-texas/662685/184 "2014-02-18T06:37:39Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > Molly Ivins didn’t get “sarcastic” when drunk (as she invaraibly was), she got violent. > > When she got drunk, she didn’t just make catty remarks, she punched people- even knocking out two of Billy Porterfield’s teeth. > > [http://www.commondreams.org/headlines07/0205-06.htm](http://www.commondreams.org/headlines07/0205-06.htm) > > She HAD to have been fun to be with at least SOME of the time, because even Porterfield now tries to make Ivins’ violence seem like a charming quirk. Well, whaddaya want? That’s Texans for ya. Even the **best** of them, the finest public intellectuals, are crude, violent, alcoholic roughnecks. And the men are even worse. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wendy-davis-for-governor-of-texas/662685/185 "2014-02-18T08:14:02Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > She was also credibly accused of plagiarizing Florence King, a conservative humorist who made William F. Buckley look like Jimmy Carter. > > [http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/003155.html](http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/003155.html) Yes, or it could have been a case of sloppy attribution. As a full reading of the material at your link reveals. However, my sympathy for Florence King–if she really is a “conservative humorist” is limited right now. Because it’s primary season. Ted Nugent’s pal Greg Abbott pretty much has the Republican nomination for Governor sewn up. But it’s impossible to watch local news–because of the ads for Republican hopefuls for less illustrious offices. Like Lite Gov & Attorney General. They are falling all over themselves proclaiming their Conservative credentials, speaking scornfully of Obama (never “President Obama”) & fellating Ted Cruz. Like all Texas cities, Houston is a spot of blue. But there are _some_ Republicans here–especially out in the 'burbs. I don’t know how they will make up their little racist, xenophobic minds, with such an [array of geeks](http://www.texasobserver.org/texas-republican-primary-jockeying/). ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wendy-davis-for-governor-of-texas/662685/186 "2014-02-18T08:30:16Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Yes, or it could have been a case of sloppy attribution. As a full reading of the material at your link reveals. > > However, my sympathy for Florence King–if she really is a “conservative humorist” is limited right now. Because it’s primary season. Ted Nugent’s pal Greg Abbott pretty much has the Republican nomination for Governor sewn up. But it’s impossible to watch local news–because of the ads for Republican hopefuls for less illustrious offices. Like Lite Gov & Attorney General. > > They are falling all over themselves proclaiming their Conservative credentials, speaking scornfully of Obama (never “President Obama”) & fellating Ted Cruz. Like all Texas cities, Houston is a spot of blue. But there are _some_ Republicans here–especially out in the 'burbs. I don’t know how they will make up their little racist, xenophobic minds, with such an [array of geeks](http://www.texasobserver.org/texas-republican-primary-jockeying/). “Was” not “is”. She died in 2007. And yes she was both, though misanthrope was a more accurate term. If you think she’s not a humorist, I invite you to read Southern Ladies and Gentlemen(or maybe it was the other way around). ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wendy-davis-for-governor-of-texas/662685/187 "2014-02-18T08:47:53Z")
I also have to admit I find this insistence that Ivins was not guilty of plagiarism but was merely guilty of “sloppy attribution” when didn’t attribute comments that she copied from King to anyone but herself and, to her credit, admits that she should have attributed them to King. Just so people don’t have to take my or Bridget’s word for it, but can make up their own minds. I’ll let people compare the quotes that King was upset about and felt constituted plagiarism. > [@](#): > > **IVINS:** “Keep in mind that Southerners are so conservative they voted for Franklin Roosevelt, so isolationist they voted for Richard Nixon, so populist they voted for Barry Goldwater, so aristocratic they voted for George Wallace, and that they see nothing peculiar in any of this.” vs. > [@](#): > > **KING:** “The typical Southerner: > —Brags about what a conservative he is and then votes for Franklin D. Roosevelt. > —Or brags about what an isolationist he is and then votes for Richard Nixon. > —Or brags about what a populist he is and then votes for Barry Goldwater. > —Or brags about what an aristocrat he is and then votes for George Wallace. > —And is able to say with a straight face that he sees nothing peculiar about any of the above.” and > [@](#): > > **IVINS:** “The Southern passion for military service first astonished the rest of the country in 1898, when Southerners signed up in droves to avenge the Maine. It was the country’s first war since Appomattox, and for 33 years Yankees had questioned Southern loyalty.” vs. > [@](#): > > **KING:** “In 1898, the phenomenon that surprised Americans nearly as much as the explosion of the battleship Maine was the vast number of Southern men who answered the call to the colors. It was America’s first war since Appomattox, and Southern loyalty had been in question for 33 years.” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wendy-davis-for-governor-of-texas/662685/188 "2014-02-18T14:32:07Z")
Talent borrows, genius steals. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wendy-davis-for-governor-of-texas/662685/189 "2014-02-18T14:57:05Z")
Well I for one now refuse to vote for Ivins for governor. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wendy-davis-for-governor-of-texas/662685/190 "2014-02-18T15:38:19Z")
Just got a fundaising letter for Davis (I’m on a bunch of Dem direct-mail lists), prominently featuring the filibuster, but haven’t cut her a check. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wendy-davis-for-governor-of-texas/662685/191 "2014-02-18T17:46:21Z")
I’ve already contributed to Wendy Davis, although her recent advocacy of Open Carry has given me pause. And I don’t give a fuck if Molly Ivins stole from a Conservative. On the whole, I still miss Molly. And the topic has nothing to do with Wendy Davis. Or Greg Abbott… ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2014, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wendy-davis-for-governor-of-texas/662685/192 "2014-02-19T05:11:03Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > And I don’t give a fuck if Molly Ivins stole from a Conservative. On the whole, I still miss Molly. That’s an interesting statement. Would you have been angrier if she stole from a liberal? Also, if it’s okay to steal from conservatives what else can be done to them? Can we beat them up? Kidnap them? Murder them? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2014, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wendy-davis-for-governor-of-texas/662685/193 "2014-02-19T05:40:25Z")
Take the Molly Ivins debate to another thread, please. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2014, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wendy-davis-for-governor-of-texas/662685/194 "2014-02-19T06:24:59Z")
That’s _so_ two hours ago. Now we are on to permissible behavior in relation to conservatives. Myself, I draw the line at wedgies. Not a strict rule. More of a guideline. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2014, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wendy-davis-for-governor-of-texas/662685/195 "2014-02-19T15:21:28Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > That’s _so_ two hours ago. Now we are on to permissible behavior in relation to conservatives. Myself, I draw the line at wedgies. Not a strict rule. More of a guideline. I’m more radical. Swirlies are appropriate. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2014, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wendy-davis-for-governor-of-texas/662685/196 "2014-02-19T17:18:35Z")
Wendy Davis is a pretty hard right candidate. She’s even said now that she supports restrictions on abortion after 20 weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2014, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wendy-davis-for-governor-of-texas/662685/197 "2014-02-19T18:12:04Z")
She isn’t “hard right” for Texas. Farther to the right than I would prefer, but more liberal than any of the Republican hopefuls playing “More Conservative Than Thou” on political ads this primary season… Texas cities tend Democratic–so the Abbott/Nugent show only played Denton & Wichita Falls. Nugent apparently minded his language at the events. And Abbott [played ignorant](http://keranews.org/post/greg-abbott-defends-appearance-ted-nugent-while-wendy-davis-calls-musician-repulsive) of his pal’s past behavior & opinions… > [@](#): > > I don’t know what he may have said or done in his background. What I do know is that he stands for the Constitution. He stands against the federal government overreaching. Of course, Wendy Davis has mostly been talking about statewide issues. But the Republicans don’t want anybody to stop fearing DC. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2014, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wendy-davis-for-governor-of-texas/662685/198 "2014-02-19T18:17:57Z")
Ted Nugent offers a warning example. Sure, you can worry about what happens to people who take drugs, but look what happens when you _don’t!_ ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2014, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wendy-davis-for-governor-of-texas/662685/199 "2014-02-19T18:42:07Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Wendy Davis is a pretty hard right candidate. She’s even said now that she supports restrictions on abortion after 20 weeks. Does that mean she can win? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2014, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wendy-davis-for-governor-of-texas/662685/200 "2014-02-19T18:44:41Z")
No, it just means that even if she wins, he’s still right. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wendy-davis-for-governor-of-texas/662685.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wendy-davis-for-governor-of-texas/662685.md?page=11)