# We're finally moving!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-finally-moving/488654>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [March 7, 2009, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-finally-moving/488654 "2009-03-07T14:56:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![porcupine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac91a4/32.png) [@porcupine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/porcupine)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-finally-moving/488654/21 "2009-03-08T02:00:21Z")

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Ya know, I’ve been here a long time, and don’t agree with some of what’s been going on here lately, and have a big investment here (hell, I met my SO of 7 years here), and I have to say, my reaction to the OP is:

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-finally-moving/488654/22 "2009-03-08T02:03:55Z")

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I don’t understand these long good-byes. Are they for the OP’s ego, to hear how he/she will be missed? Or is it to cyber-slap Ed?

As Tuco says in _The Good, The Bad & The Ugly_, “ **If you have to shoot, shoot. Don’t talk.** ”

In other words, just go.

I think if we’ve learned anything over the past few weeks, no one cares.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-finally-moving/488654/23 "2009-03-08T02:18:01Z")

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I like it. I may never really do anything in the new town, but, at least, it showed the mayor of the old town that it citizens were serious.

@The Surb: You left out the most important part. Not only were the rules more heavily enforced, but new rules were created without checking with the citizens. So, since the mayor cannot be impeached or otherwise held responsible for his actions, some citizens (the ones you are practically insulting) decided to voice their protest by leaving. The same thing immigrants have been doing for millenia. Would you have prefered a revolutionary/civil war?

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-finally-moving/488654/24 "2009-03-08T02:20:54Z")

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> [@Stink Fish Pot](#):
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> I don’t understand these long good-byes.

It’s just “Look at me! Please! LOOK AT ME!” behaviour by a bunch of tedious, err, people. This place will be well shot of them.

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-finally-moving/488654/25 "2009-03-08T02:23:07Z")

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What a strange thread.

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**Author:** ![The\_Surb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@The\_Surb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Surb)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-finally-moving/488654/26 "2009-03-08T02:27:01Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I like it. I may never really do anything in the new town, but, at least, it showed the mayor of the old town that it citizens were serious.
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> @The Surb: You left out the most important part. Not only were the rules more heavily enforced, but new rules were created without checking with the citizens. So, since the mayor cannot be impeached or otherwise held responsible for his actions, some citizens (the ones you are practically insulting) decided to voice their protest by leaving. The same thing immigrants have been doing for millenia. Would you have prefered a revolutionary/civil war?

That’s cool. But what about the citizens of this town that didn’t like the graffiti and garbage? We don’t have the right not to see it? We don’t have the right not to have mods leaving because any action or no action is met with name calling and poo flinging. (and I’m sorry about the ones that did leave I wish it could have worked out better)

Sure we don’t have to read it, but one can step over the big turd in the middle of the sidewalk and still be disgusted by it.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-finally-moving/488654/27 "2009-03-08T02:29:05Z")

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> [@Stink Fish Pot](#):
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> I don’t understand these long good-byes. Are they for the OP’s ego, to hear how he/she will be missed? Or is it to cyber-slap Ed?

Why do people keep saying this? _Yes you do understand these long good-byes_. It is to send a clear message to Ed that his changes have ruined the atmosphere and vibe of a board that was a top notch board.

And for people that keep saying folks are leaving just because they want to insult other posters in the pit, yeah, keep lying to yourself while good posters that never called another poster a cunt in their lives go away and never come back.

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**Author:** ![Chez\_Guevara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Chez\_Guevara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chez_Guevara)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-finally-moving/488654/28 "2009-03-08T02:30:38Z")

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> [@SkipMagic](#):
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> Since nearly the entire OP is a list of complaints about the board, off it goes to ATMB.

You couldn’t possibly move it to another board, could you?

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-finally-moving/488654/29 "2009-03-08T02:51:33Z")

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Maybe I’m missing something. The only changes I’ve seen made here are in the language and type of posts that can be made in the Pit and ATMB, and where comments about board issues can be made. Posts in the other forums, as far as I can tell, are not affected by any of the new rules.

And I’m sorry, but it is about saying “Look at me! I’m leaving and I want to be sure that everyone knows it!” If you’re that upset about the way things are being done here, then just stop posting and find another sandbox to play in.

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-finally-moving/488654/30 "2009-03-08T03:23:59Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> Why do people keep saying this? _Yes you do understand these long good-byes_. It is to send a clear message to Ed that his changes have ruined the atmosphere and vibe of a board that was a top notch board.

No, actually I don’t understand it. Trying to send a clear message to Ed at this point is supposed to do what exactly? I think these things are more about the person writing them, and not about trying to send any message to TPTB. These are the same people who _before_ the big blowup would be inclined to write “don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.” if some other poster decided to say “goodbye” for one reason or another. This place had its share of “Eds” before Ed usurped them all.

If Ed hasn’t gotten the message after all this, do you honestly think he’s going to get it after reading the OP?

Please. There are certain people who are convinced that they are more important than they really are. And these types of OPs are a desperate plea for validation.

It’s a message board, for crying out loud. And TPTB have already told us all how they feel. Ed’s been hit over the head with the written equivalent of a shovel for the past couple of weeks. Do you think hitting him again will make any difference?

Or will a 6-page thread pleading for the OP to come back to these boards change the OP’s mind?

That’s what I thought. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-finally-moving/488654/31 "2009-03-08T03:34:46Z")

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> [@Stink Fish Pot](#):
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> Ed’s been hit over the head with the written equivalent of a shovel for the past couple of weeks. Do you think hitting him again will make any difference?

[Do you want to eat your crow here or shall we wrap it to go?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10913056&postcount=102)

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**Author:** ![Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Man_With_a_Cat)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-finally-moving/488654/32 "2009-03-08T03:51:40Z")

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I’m kind of checking out the new town. IRL, a couple years ago the mayor and council passed a couple of really intrusive and stupid laws. Everyone, and I mean virtually everyone complained. TPTB dug their heels in, names were called, nasty letters written and at some point the mayor said that well, he gets why people are mad, and he didn’t mean to get people riled, or make like there was any limiting people’s actions - that there was a problem in the eyes of some and though it was ham-handed they took some action, but that if everyone could take a minute and see what’s really broke and what really needs to be fixed and how that we could all work it out.

I’m pretty sure no one moved out of town over it. I know I didn’t, even though that law affected me an awful lot more than not being able to use particular insulting or abusive language does here.

Once in a while, I visit nearby towns, I like what they have to offer, sometimes just that they’re different is enough. Maybe the new place seems more collaborative, maybe that’s just now, who knows? I’ll be here, I’ll visit there, like I visit some of the other area towns now and then. I’m pretty sure not many people care a lot whether I move, IRL or from this allegorical town.

I know I wouldn’t care who cares or not.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-finally-moving/488654/33 "2009-03-08T03:56:35Z")

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> [@Mr Bus Guy](#):
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> I’m kind of checking out the new town. IRL, a couple years ago the mayor and council passed a couple of really intrusive and stupid laws. Everyone, and I mean virtually everyone complained. TPTB dug their heels in, names were called, nasty letters written and at some point the mayor said that well, he gets why people are mad, and he didn’t mean to get people riled, or make like there was any limiting people’s actions - that there was a problem in the eyes of some and though it was ham-handed they took some action, but that if everyone could take a minute and see what’s really broke and what really needs to be fixed and how that we could all work it out.
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> I’m pretty sure no one moved out of town over it. I know I didn’t, even though that law affected me an awful lot more than not being able to use particular insulting or abusive language does here.
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> Once in a while, I visit nearby towns, I like what they have to offer, sometimes just that they’re different is enough. Maybe the new place seems more collaborative, maybe that’s just now, who knows? I’ll be here, I’ll visit there, like I visit some of the other area towns now and then. I’m pretty sure not many people care a lot whether I move, IRL or from this allegorical town.
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> I know I wouldn’t care who cares or not.

I hope to see you in the other virtual town and I know the migratory Mumpers do. (Is that even the right term?) If not, I plan to still visit here. No farewells from me. Just a new primary residence.

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-finally-moving/488654/34 "2009-03-08T05:31:19Z")

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> [@Q.E.D](#):
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> [Do you want to eat your crow here or shall we wrap it to go?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10913056&postcount=102)

C’mon, Q.E.D. You think that’s an apology? How many times have you read about “changes coming next week” or “just over the horizon”?

You may know Ed much better than I, so if that’s an admission of a mistake, and a willingness to make amends, I’ll take your word for it. But that’s not the take I’m getting on the new board. Or from what I’ve read here, for that matter.

I’ll eat all the crow you can serve up the day you quit your position on domebo and come back here to do your posting. Until then, I’m pretty comfortable with my assessment.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-finally-moving/488654/35 "2009-03-08T05:44:28Z")

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> [@Stink Fish Pot](#):
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> C’mon, Q.E.D. You think that’s an apology? How many times have you read about “changes coming next week” or “just over the horizon”?

Try this on for size:

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10915555&postcount=130](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10915555&postcount=130)

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-finally-moving/488654/36 "2009-03-08T06:17:28Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Try this on for size:
> 
> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10915555&postcount=130](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10915555&postcount=130)

Believe it or not, I just came in here to show that one to you!

Now, that’s an apology.

A good one. Does it change your mind? Are you going to come back? I’m not talking about the casual posts, but to make this your message board of choice?

Two new boards sprang up, and a lot of people are hoping they succeed. If Ed would have written that oh, 2-3 weeks ago, I think he would have kept a lot of us around. But for many posters, there is no coming back. To know that THAT kind of apology was in there somewhere and just came out now is the true tragedy in all of this.

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-finally-moving/488654/37 "2009-03-08T06:20:45Z")

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Sorry, **Oakminster** … I thought you were **QED** when I posted. My apologies for the confusion. But I agree that your link is to an actual apology.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-finally-moving/488654/38 "2009-03-08T06:24:05Z")

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> [@Stink Fish Pot](#):
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> Believe it or not, I just came in here to show that one to you!
> 
> Now, that’s an apology.
> 
> A good one. Does it change your mind? Are you going to come back? I’m not talking about the casual posts, but to make this your message board of choice?

No. I’m a Domebo guy now, and my best stuff will be going there.

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-finally-moving/488654/39 "2009-03-08T06:31:38Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> No. I’m a Domebo guy now, and my best stuff will be going there.

I think this is how many of us feel. Too little, much to late. When you commit to a new board, your best stuff _has_ to go there.

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-finally-moving/488654/40 "2009-03-08T07:16:53Z")

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I’m too set in my ways to move. So the mayor came down heavy on ugly brawls in the local bar. Meh, I can live with that.

Maybe if the real heavyweights started pulling up stumps I’d think again, citizens of the calibre of **Bricker** , **John W. Shakespeare** , **Qadgop the Mercotan** , et al. People with real expertise in their respective fields, a willingness to share their knowledge, and a real fluency in imparting it.

Then of course there’s Cecil, the reason I came to this town in the first place. Sure, he doesn’t appear much _in propria persona_ here but his spirit permeates the place. I’d miss that.

So _buona fortuna_ to those who are leaving us. I hope your new towns fulfill all your expectations.

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