Those were my HS years in New England, and we referred to “jocks” and “freaks” as the two factions. Saying “hippie” was about as hip as saying “groovy”. Your parents might say they didn’t want you to dress “like a hippie”, but we’d never use that term except in a joking manner.
Dude, what happened to you? I thought you must have died.
He was being held incommunicado by the Ozzie authorities in the outback for dressing like a hippie.
Naah. Just drifted away from the Dope a bit. Well OK, a lot.
A lot of folks who looked like hippies got discriminated against, real hippies a sane person would not like having around them. Most of them became drug addicts and drug addicts do what drug addicts do regardless of what they claim to stand for.
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[Looks up. Sees we’re still in GQ]
Cite?
I am not trying to be smart but where can you find an accurate cite for soemthing like this that doesn’t go beyond an opinion. I lived with hippies, I grew up and partied with hippies I have my own biases.
The actual hippies I knew who lived in communes were actually rather hard working. None of them were addicted to hard drugs, and they were cleaner than most jocks I knew. The drug addicts I knew had long hair and smelled bad because they were drug addicts, not because they were hippies.
The point Exapno’s making, of course, is that these kind of comments don’t really belong in GQ.
There is no question that relatively few people in this country had a problem with drugs prior to the counter culture revolution and they’ve been a huge problem ever since. I don’t know anyone (and I know quite a few people) whose life hasn’t been negatively impacted in some way by drugs. Either they or their homes have been robbed by drug addicts, or they have a family member whose life has been destroyed by drugs, or they’ve become addicts themselves. And those are the lucky ones. The others have either had a family member die from a drug overdose or have died themselves.
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Now we’re getting well out of GQ territory. If you want to pursue this, start another thread in Great Debates. Don’t continue this here.
Colibri
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Apologies. The point Exapno was making wasn’t all that clear to me either (as it sounded to me like he was denying the relationship between hippies and drugs) and I was already composing my post in support of HoneyBadgerDC’s post by the time you advised him/her that the subject was out of bounds.
But wasn’t there in fact a meme of not bathing among at least some of the counterculture?
I posit that 60s ERA anti-war “hippies” are THE reason that pot was listed as a schedule one drug by Nixon… so yes most definitely discriminated against 
I’m sure it goes back at least to the 1930s and such moral panics as “Reefer Madness”.
While that certainly brought awareness, I think Nixon and his well known hatred for the counter culture is the reason that it is a schedule ONE drug on par with Heroin and Cocaine, which is just crazy given the now known government studies of the time (sorry no cite, I am at work).
I have to respectfully disagree with you on some of these points.
" … many beatniks were unkempt, although other artists and musicians might be given a pass as artistes."
Do you have photos, cites, or specific recollections of unkempt Beatniks? In the 60s, my parents liked to occasionally hang out at a Beatnik coffee house, Jazz spot, with e.e. cummings poetry, bongos, the whole thing. I don’t remember seeing any long-haired Beatniks (plenty of goatees) and all of them looked clean and well, if oddly, dressed.
" … “freaks” vs “hippies,” freaks was a slightly later term (mid-70s?) … "
My Hendrix example, a song “If 6 Was 9” is from 1967, and he used both terms: “Hippies” and “Freak”. I remember both terms in common usage before that.
“Were guys with long hair genuinely hassled? Absolutely. There is ample evidence (anecdotal as it might be) in the previous posts. In addition, it was not just a “1960s” phenomenon. Refusal of service and hassle from cops continued through the 1970s and you can probably find examples in the early 1980s, although by then so many different lengths of hair styles were prevalent that it was far less of an issue.”
I’m still getting hassled by cops for long hair, and still getting some prejudicial treatment from rednecks over being a “Hippy”. That hasn’t changed, it’s just less ubiquitous. Ironically, back in the 70s and 80s, a bald head (on a youngish man) would get you labeled a"skin-head" or taken for a newly released convict or cancer patient. Now it’s very “in”. I’m surrounded by people who look like they’re from the future.
And yet these days, many guys who would easily qualify as rednecks have long hair.
yes we were.it was very unfair because the greater of us was only worried about the common goodfor all.then the charles manson thing made it all the worst because theyconsidered him a “hippie” and one of us ,which he was not.we were and are against violence and of course murder.
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I would not let hippies sleep at my house or ride in my car because so many of them were infested with crabs. Other than that I thought they were cool for the most part.