# We're never going to see these books, are we? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** books-writing-myths\ **Created:** [October 16, 2019, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-never-going-to-see-these-books-are-we/841830 "2019-10-16T04:29:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-never-going-to-see-these-books-are-we/841830/61 "2019-10-17T07:24:08Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Can we include movies? > > I doubt we’ll ever see: > > - History of the World part II > - Spaceballs III - The Search For Spaceballs II. I’m not saying that’s not a valid topic. But I think it’s distinct enough it should get a separate thread. Making a movie is a collective work. It takes hundreds of people to do it and it costs millions of dollars. So when a movie doesn’t get made there can be a vast number of different factors involved. But a book is pretty much a one person project. When a book doesn’t get written, we can focus on why the author didn’t write it. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-never-going-to-see-these-books-are-we/841830/62 "2019-10-17T09:23:59Z")
I must say Douglas Adams has been slacking a bit on _Salmon of Doubt_. What’s the zarking hold up? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stafford\_Cripps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stafford_cripps/32/7167_2.png) [@The\_Stafford\_Cripps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stafford_Cripps)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-never-going-to-see-these-books-are-we/841830/63 "2019-10-17T09:34:33Z")
Iain M Banks would definitely have written more books on _The Culture_, amongst other things, if he hadn’t died at the age of 59. ---
**Author:** ![Eclipse\_Chaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@Eclipse\_Chaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eclipse_Chaser)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-never-going-to-see-these-books-are-we/841830/64 "2019-10-17T11:32:52Z")
I understand that Anne McCaffrey was working on a final tie up to the Dragonriders of Pern series, provisionally titled “After the Fall is Over”. I would like to see that, even though I got fed up with the series after the introduction of modern technology. ---
**Author:** ![BeagleJesus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5daacb/32.png) [@BeagleJesus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeagleJesus)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-never-going-to-see-these-books-are-we/841830/65 "2019-10-17T12:21:26Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Can we include movies? > > I doubt we’ll ever see: > > - History of the World part II I have been waiting for this sequel since I was about 10 years old. Come on Mel Brooks what the fuck is taking you so long?!?! ---
**Author:** ![BeagleJesus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5daacb/32.png) [@BeagleJesus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeagleJesus)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-never-going-to-see-these-books-are-we/841830/66 "2019-10-17T12:30:23Z")
> [@Infovore](#): > > _Peace Talks_ (the next book in the Dresden Files series) is done and in the hands of the publisher. It should be out next year. > > Jim Butcher had a whole lot of crap going on in his life (divorce, his dog died, his new house construction was delayed by a massive amount due to incompetent contractors, etc.) that made it difficult for him to write. He’s back on track now, so I think we’ll start seeing the books coming faster. I’ve been reading random internet blurbs for years that talk about how Butcher is hard at work writing Peace Talks only to watch him publish another book (I’m not interested in) so you’re going to have to forgive me if I have lost the faith. I mean you can’t just turn Butters into a Jedi Knight of the Holy Sword and then just…stop. That’s like touching me in the morning and then just walking away… ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-never-going-to-see-these-books-are-we/841830/67 "2019-10-17T15:33:12Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Can we include movies? > > I doubt we’ll ever see: > > - History of the World part II > - Spaceballs III - The Search For Spaceballs II. On a double bill with "Buckaroo Banzai versus the World Crime League. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-never-going-to-see-these-books-are-we/841830/68 "2019-10-17T15:55:41Z")
I tend to doubt we’ll ever see the rest of Geoffrey Chaucer’s Caterbury Tales. ---
**Author:** ![MacSpon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/34f0e0/32.png) [@MacSpon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacSpon)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-never-going-to-see-these-books-are-we/841830/69 "2019-10-17T23:03:55Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > David R. Palmer > The final book in the _To Halt Armageddon_ trilogy. > current status: The first book, _Threshold_, was published in 1985. It seemed like the series was dead. But then the second book, _Special Education_, was published this year. So who knows? IIRC, the afterword to _Spēcial Education_ indicated that Palmer had lost his original outline for the trilogy, so when he finally wrote book 2 he ended up finishing the story off there, without any need for a book 3. In other words, it’s now a duology, not a trilogy. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-never-going-to-see-these-books-are-we/841830/70 "2019-10-17T23:26:09Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Can we include movies? Naah, that’d be too easy. I mean it’s top of mind for everyone: we’re all just waiting to see the promised _Buckaroo Banzai_ sequel, _Remo Williams: The Adventure Continues_, and \*Leonard Parts I, II, III, IV and V. \* And virtually NO ONE has forgotten that “In the Next Episode…” teaser in _Kung Pow: Enter the Fist,_ or the “We’ll Be Back” freeze-frame at the end of _Mac and Me!_ ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-never-going-to-see-these-books-are-we/841830/71 "2019-10-17T23:42:49Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Naah, that’d be too easy. > > I mean it’s top of mind for everyone: we’re all just waiting to see the promised _Buckaroo Banzai_ sequel, _Remo Williams: The Adventure Continues_, and \*Leonard Parts I, II, III, IV and V. > \* To say nothing of _Doctor Detroit II: The Revenge of Mom_. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-never-going-to-see-these-books-are-we/841830/72 "2019-10-18T00:36:20Z")
> [@digs](#): > > we’re all just waiting to see … \*Leonard Parts I, II, III, IV and V. I think I can say with confidence that virtually nobody is waiting to see those. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Brother\_1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_brother_1/32/3513_2.png) [@Little\_Brother\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Brother_1)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-never-going-to-see-these-books-are-we/841830/73 "2019-10-18T20:15:18Z")
James Douglass’s excellent JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters was published in 2008. I saw him speak in 2010, and he mentioned that he was writing, or intended to write, a similar treatment of other assassinations; at the time, he stated he was working on a book about the RFK assassination. In 2012, Gandhi and the Unspeakable: His Final Experiment with Truth was published. I already know about the “hidden in plain sight” bogus official narrative and cover-up of RFK’s assassination-- Lisa Pease’s A Lie Too Big to Fail is a cogent exposé-- but I wish Douglass had done the RFK book before Gandhi. It took him 12 years to write the JFK book, and he’s not getting any younger, but I’m keeping my fingers crossed. ---
**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-never-going-to-see-these-books-are-we/841830/74 "2019-10-18T20:42:59Z")
> [@DrCube](#): > > Not specific books, but J.D. Salinger was a recluse for 50 years, and when he died I heard all about how the books he wrote during that time as a hermit were going to be edited and finally published by his family. But that was 2010, and I haven’t heard anything since. Does anybody have the inside scoop? Or has that project died on the vine? Just yesterday, the Wall Street Journal published an [article](https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-promise-of-more-salinger-to-come-11571284861) (behind a paywall) that touched on this subject. Matt Salinger says he’s still working on transcribing some of his father’s work, but it will be five to seven years before anything is published. He gave no details about what sort of work(s) would be published. ---
**Author:** ![Brayne\_Ded](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Brayne\_Ded](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brayne_Ded)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-never-going-to-see-these-books-are-we/841830/75 "2019-10-18T21:32:24Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > That’s why I didn’t count that as a real part of the series. But I knew if I didn’t at least mention them, someone else would. > > For what it’s worth, there have also been unofficial versions of Flashman’s Civil War adventures by other authors. Really? Where can I find them? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-never-going-to-see-these-books-are-we/841830/76 "2019-10-18T22:05:31Z")
> [@Brayne\_Ded](#): > > Really? Where can I find them? Two I can think of offhand are _[Snooks North and South](https://www.amazon.com/SNOOKS-North-South-Peter-Brian/dp/1500872369)_ and _[Snooks The Presidents’ Man](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LWQ19HD/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i1)_, both by Peter Brian. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-never-going-to-see-these-books-are-we/841830/77 "2019-10-19T00:03:21Z")
I’d be very interested in seeing _The Captal’s Tower_. My (fuzzy) recollection is that McKinley was in a bad place in her life that interfered or prevented her writing it when she originally intended to. I was always hoping that Barry Hughart would write more books about the adventures of Master Li and Number Ten Ox, but now that he’s died I’m guessing that won’t ever happen. I’m still hoping for the following: [ul] [li]That Patricia Kennealy-Morrison will finish out her Keltiad series, even if it’s self-published. I google from time to time, but no word on it.[/li][li]That James Hetley will finish out his Summer Country/Winter Oak series. The Winter Oak ends on a cliffhanger, damnit.[/li][li]That Lilith Saintcrow would consider writing a sequel to The Demon’s Librarian. Apparently she always intended this for a standalone, but dangit, there’s so much room for more in it and yes, I’m greedy. The concept was interesting and I really liked the characters. [/li][li]That Illona Andrews would consider a full-length novel or two in the world of the Kinsmen, although I admit thinking it might be set in the future of her Hidden Legacy books.[/li][li]Also Illona Andrews, novels set in the world of Alphas: Origins. Their short story for that collection was amazing. Apparently they felt it was too dark and scary, though, and most of their readers didn’t like it so it’s unlikely.[/li][li]That Diane Duane would continue her Raetian Tales series. She obviously intends more, but only the first has appeared.[/li]That Mercedes Lackey would write more books in the Hunter universe. In this case, the publisher didn’t want more, which just goes to show that some people are bloody idiots.[/ul] ---
**Author:** ![Hatchie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hatchie/32/3983_2.png) [@Hatchie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hatchie)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-never-going-to-see-these-books-are-we/841830/78 "2019-10-19T00:58:38Z")
Henry Darger’s _The Story of the Vivian Girls, in what is Known as the Realms of the Unreal, of the Glandeco-Angelinnian War Storm, Caused by the Child Slave Rebellion_, 15,000 pages, unfinished, unpublished aside from exerpts and supposedly unread - those who tried found it heavy sledding indeed. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-never-going-to-see-these-books-are-we/841830/79 "2019-10-20T11:17:06Z")
> [@Gray\_Ghost](#): > > I mean, thanks for the edit, I didn’t realize I’d committed a faux pas. So I don’t do it again, how long in the past must something have occurred before we can discuss it sans spoiler tags? Is saying what “Rosebud” means, OK? well, since I don’t have cable and am waiting patiently for season 8 to be available on disk (even though the least offended comments were that it was ‘disappointing’) I would say longer than five months, thank you vary much. ‘Rosebud’ you’re pretty safe. ---
**Author:** ![DeptfordX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DeptfordX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeptfordX)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-never-going-to-see-these-books-are-we/841830/80 "2019-10-20T18:01:23Z")
> [@BeagleJesus](#): > > I’m going to add Jim Butcher’s Dresden Files. > > It seems like he’s lost interest in the character now that he doesn’t need Harry to boost his bottom line. Can’t speak for later volumes but **Peace Talks** is apparently done now. Supposed to be out in the spring. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-never-going-to-see-these-books-are-we/841830.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-never-going-to-see-these-books-are-we/841830.md?page=5)