We're officially a nation of pussies - Add your examples here

Nah. I’m a lousy consumer.

Apparently being respectful and well-behaved is now undesirable in children? Is that what you’re saying? That it’s evidence of being a brainwashed little automaton?

What a load of romantic hippie crap!

As I said above. If you don’t discipline them properly when they’re little, you get monsters when they’re bigger. And the only way to deal with them then is to hit 'em. But if you train them right from the start, you don’t need to.

The time outs weren’t the problem with your stepmom’s kids. She was clearly a weak authority figure who didn’t train them properly.

Yup, that’s why you leaped in to complain when somebody mentioned that “time-outs” were evidence of the pussification of America … .

Oh, wait, that was me … .

What I’m sick of is people equating spanking with strong parenting and time outs with weak parenting. The mode of punishment you use doesn’t make you a strong or weak parent. What makes you a strong or weak parent is how well you exercise authority over your children. And it’s been my experience that parents who use spanking regularly often do so because they neglected discipline at an early age (i.e. were weak parents) and are now left with no other recourse to handle their unruly brats.

And my daycare provider had a “fanny paddle” she used on her kids, and they were little terrors. Kids can be brats under any discipline system.

Since this thread is now all over the place…

I concur.

Of course not. What you said was that you “did what [you were] told with no ifs, ands, or buts.” I was raised with a healthy dose of skeptism against all authority figures, including my parents.

Now, if that’s “romantic hippie crap,” then hand me my flowers and beads and crank up the Grateful Dead, man! Peace!

You got a cite for that?

I’d like to add to this list a rule in the deli I work at, demanding that an employee must put on three gloves before picking up a bread knife. If we don’t abide by this very well known rule, our customers complain.

God forbid we lop off our hands with a bread knife :rolleyes: .

You know that he kids who cried were brought with time out style punishment and the ones who did not were spanked as children.

Right.

I wasn’t spanked as a kid. My dad could intimidate me enough. A very good friend of mine was spanked all the time. Hell, his mother took after him with a baseball bat on more than one occasion. He was completly out of controll growing up. He wasn’t afraid of anything. Like taking LSD when he was 11-years old. If he wanted to do something he knew was wrong, he would ask himself if it was worth the beating and nine times out of ten he would do it anyway. Some how he managed to live through his childhood and is now a responsible adult and he doesn’t spank his kids.

Not even reading the thread, just had to say:
mmm… pussies…

I think you’ve missed the point of the gloves…

Read the thread. Already been cited.

Do you have a link to this story? I would be interested to read it.

I can’t remember who posted it, or what the name of the thread was, but a few weeks ago, there was a thread about a lady who’d written a three (I think) page letter to some newspaper, or authority outlining her “frightening” experience on a flight with several middle eastern “looking” young men.

These supposedly suspicious-looking young arab types had strange looking long flat cases they’d stored as carry on. Furthermore, they gasp congregated in groups by the bathrooms and galleys and actually TALKED and LAUGHED with each other for much of the flight. The nerve of them.

But the most (to her) damning evidence of their obvious terrorist intent (she never actually came out and SAID that, IIRC, in her letter, but the insinuation was there), was that the young man who ended up sitting behind her had been friendly to her in the airport, but gave her a “cold look” when she got up to go to the bathroom and glanced his way.

Okay, that’s the background.

SOOooo, on my trip home from Texas to Alaska, me and my fellow passengers get treated to THIS announcement: (as closely as I can remember)

“Ladies and gentlemen, due to new national security measures, you will no longer be allowed to congregate by the lavatories and galleys. The curtain between the first class and coach has been removed, but NO coach passengers are allowed in this area, nor are they allowed to use the first class lavatory, for (yeah right) YOUR protection and security”.

Damn!!! And I was SO looking forward to the kegger in the First Class lavatory!!!

:rolleyes:

How many think that this new “security measure” was NOT in response to that idiot woman’s letter?

Really? It was supposed to be ‘thimble’.

Sigh.

Apparently you got what I typed, rather than what I meant to type, so MP DPI[ GPT UPI/ @@@@@

God damn I’m bored.

-Joe, Really did crack his skull open three times before he was six, hasn’t broken any other bones, period

What, you mean this?

That’s not a cite, that’s speculation. You got anything better? This, maybe?

So, what did he actually say? As in, what were the exact words that came out of his mouth, or written with his hand?

One of the links (Atlanta Journal I think) was subscription only, so I can’t look at that one.

Bug-Me-Not is a beautiful thing.

Wow, that certainly is. It turns out the Atlanta Journal-Constitution article doesn’t say anything that’s not in the Yahoo article anyway.

As I understand it, we’re ranting about Cat Stevens scrawling death threats in Farsi on aeroplane magazines to parents who spank their children for not wearing helmets. Goddamn pussies!

(bolding mine)

Heh, You’re keeping me in stitches, Pochacco. Thank you for proving my point.

It has less to do with discipline and MORE to do with teaching my son to NOT be a push-over.

You know when the last time my ol’ man spanked me was.

It was when I was about 10 or 11 and he spanked me for something I didn’t think I deserved to be spanked for.

So wht did I do?

I bent over took my licks; then after it was done I got up (with out crying) and told him “With all due respect sir, I think you’re wrong on this one…”

Years later he told me he felt like shit aftewrwords yet at the same time he felt an enormous sense of pride because he KNEW that took some real moxie to say…

Trunk, IIRC, you’re not very old. So you wouldn’t remember “back in the day”, before helmets and other protective gear. If you did, you would also remember classmates of yours who became former classmates, because they’d been so gravely injured that they couldn’t attend regular school any more. Or they died.

Then again, even if you were the right age for that, you’d probably exercise the same selective memory so many others do.

Cat Stevens and Salman Rushdie:
When the Islamic death sentence against Salman Rushdie was pronounced, Cat Stevens told Muslim students at London’s Kingston Polytechnic, “He must be killed.The Qur’an makes it clear: if someone defames the prophet, he must die.”

This sounds pretty straightforward to me, but of course Cat claims he was misunderstood. How you can misunderstand “he must be killed!” is a bit murky, but he has since clarified that such a death sentence can only be carried out by the authority of a court in an Islamic society (Horses’s mouth ). So I guess that’s alright. He must be killed – but only by an Islamic judge. Idiot!

Here’s New York Times from 1989:

Which also has this little nugget:

I guess the Religion of Peace bullshit came later huh? Perhaps they’ll switch to Religion of Beheading soon? Maybe Cat Stevens will rename his Peace Train to Peace Planes?

Cat Stevens on Anti-Semitism:
Here’s Daniel Pipes

Idiot!

Cat Stevens and the terrorists.
Here’s Rolling Stones (the magasine)
Cat said it was all a big misunderstanding, and we know how it is with misunderstandings and Cat Stevens. Idiot!

Cat Stevens and cuddly mass murders
Here’s Wikipedia
Apparently Cat also expressed his great sympathy for his “Muslem brother” Saddam Hussein. Idiot!

Cat Stevens and homophobia

Support for a government ban on discussion of homosexuality. That should go over like a lead baloon here on SDMB. Idiot!

That Yusef Islam is just chuck full of good vibes huh?