# Were the 2 girls that died on the SFO flight seat belted? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [July 8, 2013, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-the-2-girls-that-died-on-the-sfo-flight-seat-belted/662987 "2013-07-08T23:15:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![AaronX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7bcc69/32.png) [@AaronX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AaronX)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2013, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-the-2-girls-that-died-on-the-sfo-flight-seat-belted/662987/21 "2013-07-12T05:55:53Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Regarding the flight attendants (female flight attendants are still referred to in Korea as _/stewardess_), the competition for that job is incredibly intense. University graduates pay to attend stewardess cram schools, paying quite a hefty fee for those cram schools with higher percentages of graduates who make it just into the training phase of an airline’s flight attendant program. [This article](http://www.alamogordonews.com/news/ci_23617437/young-female-and-ambitious-maybe-you-can-be) is pretty informative. With what the applicants have to go through, and training, more training, and even more training after they’re hired, it’s really not a surprise that they’re pretty darn good at their job. Ok reading the longer thread, I have to wonder: are their flight attendants better trained than their pilots? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2013, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-the-2-girls-that-died-on-the-sfo-flight-seat-belted/662987/22 "2013-07-12T07:11:04Z")
> [@AaronX](#): > > Ok reading the longer thread, I have to wonder: are their flight attendants better trained than their pilots? Unknown. However, it’s quite unlikely that any of their FAs has an opportunity to botch a landing. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2013, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-the-2-girls-that-died-on-the-sfo-flight-seat-belted/662987/23 "2013-07-12T10:35:31Z")
It’s likely that, under these particular circumstances, the flight attendants had more information regarding post-crash danger in the cabin than the pilots, simply because they could see/smell smoke and actually see damage to the airplane. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2013, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-the-2-girls-that-died-on-the-sfo-flight-seat-belted/662987/24 "2013-07-12T15:08:39Z")
> [@md2000](#): > > It seems to me from the pictures that the tail separated back of the passenger compartment, possibly where the galley was (hence the stewardess dislocation issue). If you’re strapped to a wall that suddenly becomes the front wall of a large chunk of flying debris, then lucky to be alive is an operative expression. Upon coming to rest, a large upper portion of the aft pressure bulkhead is still attached to the fuselage, but it’s torn and ruptured and at least half of it is gone ([Picture](http://cdn.ph.upi.com/collection/pv/upi/7794/b048b1a0b8df7cd3d5ffd81ed96d7891/Asiana-Airlines-flight-214-crash_1_1.jpg)). According to the [seatmaps](http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Asiana/Asiana_Boeing_777-200_ER_A.php), the back of the rear galley seems to hug the curve of the aft bulkhead, so it is plausible the rear of the galley would have departed the airframe. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-the-2-girls-that-died-on-the-sfo-flight-seat-belted/662987.md?page=1)