# Were there any sequel movies before Star Wars?

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**Created:** [April 2, 2015, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-any-sequel-movies-before-star-wars/716628 "2015-04-02T16:04:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
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So were Superman 1 and 2. Well, mostly. Until the bottom fell out of 2, and they had to [scramble](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_%281978_film%29#Production).

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Speaking of superheroes, _The Green Hornet_ and _The Green Hornet Strikes Again!_

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Speaking of superheroes, _The Green Hornet_ and _The Green Hornet Strikes Again!_

Not to mention some Nancy Drew movies!  
(Well, my daughter thought she was when my daughter was young.)

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-any-sequel-movies-before-star-wars/716628/84 "2015-04-04T11:15:50Z")

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Pre-_Star Wars_, there was a movie and its sequel about an ordinary citizen who did his best to foil criminals while cursed with a weird super-power.

I’m speaking, of course, of _The Shaggy Dog_ and _The Shaggy D.A._

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Would Dante Alighieri’s **Divine Comedy** count as a trilogy? There are three very distinct divisions (_Inferno_, _Purgatorio_, and _Paradiso_), and I have seen them (or at least the first & most popular segment _Inferno_) published as separate volumes. But was it intended by Dante that they could (or should) be read as separate-but-related works?

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**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-any-sequel-movies-before-star-wars/716628/86 "2015-04-04T17:30:06Z")

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> [@bienville](#):
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> Wow! Spanning two decades!

Gee willikers!

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**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-any-sequel-movies-before-star-wars/716628/87 "2015-04-04T17:38:22Z")

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Spencer Tracy had \*\*\* Father of the Bride\*\*\* and\*\*\* Father’s Little Dividend.\*\*\*

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**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-any-sequel-movies-before-star-wars/716628/88 "2015-04-04T17:44:55Z")

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Clifton Webb had **Mister Belvedere Goes To College** and **Mister Belvedere Rings The Bell** after earning an Oscar nomination as Mister Belvedere in **Sitting Pretty**.

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**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-any-sequel-movies-before-star-wars/716628/89 "2015-04-04T18:16:47Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> And one could argue that _The Odyssey_ counts as a sequel to _The Iliad_.

Iliad 2: The Voyage Home

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When _Apollo 13_ came out, David Letterman said he wasn’t planning to see it, because he hadn’t seen _Apollo 1-12_.

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**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-any-sequel-movies-before-star-wars/716628/91 "2015-04-04T20:39:07Z")

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Y’know, for generic sequel titles, it’s hard to top SALT AND PEPPER – where the _black_ guy is Mister Salt, and the _white_ guy is Mister Pepper – giving it another try two years later with ONE MORE TIME, with Jerry Lewis directing Sammy Davis Jr and Peter Lawford.

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**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-any-sequel-movies-before-star-wars/716628/92 "2015-04-04T20:44:16Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Which, coming back around, reminds me that _The Three Musketeers_ in '73 was of course followed by _The Four Musketeers_ in '74.

> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> And these two movies were filmed together.

They were originally intended to be a single film.

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> originally posted by Wikipedia:  
> During post production on The Three Musketeers, the producers realized that there was enough footage for two films and created The Four Musketeers. Most of the actors were incensed that their work on the long shoot was used to make an entirely separate film. All SAG actors’ contracts now have what is known as the “Salkind clause”, which stipulates how many films are being made.

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**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-any-sequel-movies-before-star-wars/716628/93 "2015-04-05T12:14:23Z")

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IMDB says that though [plans were afoot for a fifth film (“The Ravagers”), as well as a proposed teaming with Frank Sinatra for “Matt Helm Meets Tony Rome,” the poor box-office showing of both “The Wrecking Crew” and Sinatra’s second go 'round as Rome in “Lady In Cement” brought the Matt Helm series to an end.](http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0065225/trivia)

But _before_ that, yeah, Frank Sinatra’s sequel as Miami private eye Tony Rome qualified, as did Dean Martin’s sequels as globetrotting secret agent Matt Helm.

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Actually, _The Iliad_ and _The Odyssey_ are two books in a series that some ancient writers viewed as the 7-part [Epic Cycle](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_Cycle). Written by different authors, but based around the Trojan War. Some even throw in other cycles like the 4 part [Theban Cycle](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theban_Cycle). (Which is not the same as the 3 Theban plays by Sophocles.)

People have been flooded with sequels for over 3 thousand years and counting. Why should movies be any different?

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Which, coming back around, reminds me that _The Three Musketeers_ in '73 was of course followed by _The Four Musketeers_ in '74.

And let us never forget [The Three Mesquiteers](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three_Mesquiteers), a series of 51 (count 'em, 51!) B-movie Westerns in the 30s and 40s, most notable today for the handful that starred John Wayne, just before _Stagecoach_ happened.

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Barbra Streisand and Omar Sharif followed up FUNNY GIRL with FUNNY LADY in '75.

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While playing the Lone Ranger and Tonto on TV, Clayton Moore and Jay Silverheels got tapped to do a big-screen _Lone Ranger_ movie in '56; after the series ended in '57, they teamed back up for _The Lone Ranger and the Lost City Of Gold_ in '58.

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**Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-any-sequel-movies-before-star-wars/716628/98 "2015-04-11T00:26:25Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> Cool. When are they doing the sequel to _Titanic_? That movie was pretty good and made a boatload [heh] of money.

Titanic 2: The Titanicing

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Does that Japanese monster movie The Gargantuas count as a Titanic sequel?

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> [@Jim\_s\_Son](#):
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> Trying to the of “big, successful movies” using the definition of “Academy Award Best Picture Winner” (yeah, I know, every SDer is going to yelp how stupid the Academy voters are) 1929 winner “Broadway Melody” arguably had three, but they weren’t direct sequels.  
> 1942 “Mrs Miniver” had a 1950 sequel with Greer Garson and Walter Pidgeon returning.  
> 1970 “Patton” had a TV movie in 1986 with George C Scott, 1971 French Connection, 1972 Godfather, 1973 The Sting, sort of, different actors, 1976 Rocky

You missed GOING MY WAY, which (a) won Bing Crosby the Oscar for Best Actor as Father O’Malley, and (b) begat Crosby as O’Malley in THE BELLS OF ST. MARY’S.

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