# Were there fish in the Ark? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 31, 2011, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-fish-in-the-ark/594754 "2011-08-31T16:18:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-fish-in-the-ark/594754/61 "2011-09-01T01:11:50Z")
> [@Electric\_Warrior](#): > > Wait, did this thread actually turn into a debate about whether there were fish in the Ark? That’s a double-reverse derail! I’m on a roll!!! ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-fish-in-the-ark/594754/62 "2011-09-01T01:16:01Z")
> [@buckgully](#): > > Now, the people that made up the Noah story were primitive morons. Um, I’m not so sure about the moron part. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-fish-in-the-ark/594754/63 "2011-09-01T02:45:25Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > That’s a double-reverse derail! It’s a shame that \*\*Electric Warrior’s \*\*post didn’t mention that you find out at the end that actually Noah had been dead for the whole movie. Because then it would have been a double-reverse derail, with a twist. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-fish-in-the-ark/594754/64 "2011-09-01T03:17:26Z")
By your own words, **strugglingChristian** , you were not trying to start a debate: > [@strugglingChristian](#): > > This is actually a derail identification contest. You were actually complaining about how certain posters derailed a thread. Complaints about other posters go to the Pit. Moderators move threads all the time to the appropriate forum, and it’s not a punishment. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-fish-in-the-ark/594754/65 "2011-09-01T03:20:16Z")
D’oh! :smack: thought I was posting in the ATMB thread and posted here by mistake. Didn’t realize the other thread was locked - had too many open at once. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-fish-in-the-ark/594754/66 "2011-09-01T03:22:03Z")
[Ceiling Cat](http://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=Genesis_7) always protects the kittehs. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > Fish on Fridays. > It figures. Hey, don’t knock it! Japheth’s fish and chips special was to die for. ---
**Author:** ![colonial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@colonial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colonial)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-fish-in-the-ark/594754/67 "2011-09-01T03:27:10Z")
Yes there were fish on the Ark, and whales, lobsters, jellyfish, etc. A couple of all the creatures of the sea were trawled up and put in great big tanks. ---
**Author:** ![buckgully](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb9ed0/32.png) [@buckgully](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buckgully)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-fish-in-the-ark/594754/68 "2011-09-01T04:36:41Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Well, about 5.1 km of water if all you want to do is cover Mt. Ararat. That amounts to 5.3 meters of rainfall/day for 40 days. What? And leave those Tibetan scoundrels high and dry? ---
**Author:** ![buckgully](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb9ed0/32.png) [@buckgully](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buckgully)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-fish-in-the-ark/594754/69 "2011-09-01T04:53:57Z")
> [@outlierrn](#): > > Um, I’m not so sure about the moron part. Well, for one thing, they left out the part that says “This is a fictional story intended to illustrate a moral lesson, please don’t ever take something so completely and totally absurd literally.” If they were smarter they would’ve put that at the top of each section. ---
**Author:** ![Satchmo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/satchmo/32/4223_2.png) [@Satchmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satchmo)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-fish-in-the-ark/594754/70 "2011-09-01T11:06:12Z")
> [@Electric\_Warrior](#): > > Wait, did this thread actually turn into a debate about whether there were fish in the Ark? Yes, a phenomenon that rhymes with: Me bail? ---
**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-fish-in-the-ark/594754/71 "2011-09-01T13:10:43Z")
John 11:35. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-fish-in-the-ark/594754/72 "2011-09-01T13:46:09Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > What I want to know is, when it came time for Noah to load a great white shark onto the ark, did he say, “We’re going to need a bigger boat”? Given the ship construction know-how of the time – I’m guessing pre Bronze Age – they had the bigger boat. > [@Smeghead](#): > > MORNINGTON CRESCENT!!! > > I’m not sure I completely understand what’s going on here. Your reply makes just as much sense as the OP. Excellent play. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-fish-in-the-ark/594754/73 "2011-09-01T13:52:38Z")
Enough already! Noah moah! ---
**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-fish-in-the-ark/594754/74 "2011-09-01T14:18:12Z")
And speaking of Noah moah, what about the moa bird? It’s extinct, therefore there’s no moa of them. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-fish-in-the-ark/594754/75 "2011-09-01T14:20:41Z")
Good thing Noah saved the fish from drowning. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-fish-in-the-ark/594754/76 "2011-09-01T14:54:18Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Good thing Noah saved the fish from drowning. In Chelm, drowning was the normal method of executing recalcitrant fish. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-fish-in-the-ark/594754/77 "2011-09-01T16:16:30Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Good thing Noah saved the fish from drowning. In Soviet Union, fish drown you! ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-fish-in-the-ark/594754/78 "2011-09-01T18:11:26Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Psst. Some fish need salt water. Other fish need fresh water. And if we momentarily ignore the fact that it’s just a legend, a rainfall sufficient to raise the seas to cover the entire land surface of the earth would create brackish mix that would kill off most species of both freshwater and saltwater marine life. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-fish-in-the-ark/594754/79 "2011-09-01T18:22:50Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > And if we momentarily ignore the fact that it’s just a legend, a rainfall sufficient to raise the seas to cover the entire land surface of the earth would create brackish mix that would kill off most species of both freshwater and saltwater marine life. I’ve also heard it claimed that the Flood would create enough heat from the energy of so much water falling so long all over the world that it would cook everything to death. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-fish-in-the-ark/594754/80 "2011-09-01T18:30:23Z")
Fundamentalists typically just answer all the myriad logistical problems of the story with “goddidit” magic. To me, that just raises the question of why God bothered with a flood at all then. If he wanted to disappear the people, then he could have just disappeared the people. And why kill most of the animals? What did they do? You can take this even further. Since God is supposed to be omniscient, he would have already known people were going to fuck things up on the first try, and he’d have to reboot with a flood, so why couldn’t he have just skipped the first part altogether and simply created Noah’s family and a pair of every animal in the first place? Why not just make the the original boot instead of the reboot? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-fish-in-the-ark/594754.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-there-fish-in-the-ark/594754.md?page=5)