# Were YOU a lazy, antisocial jerk in school? Post here! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 3, 2003, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-a-lazy-antisocial-jerk-in-school-post-here/186013 "2003-07-03T13:26:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-a-lazy-antisocial-jerk-in-school-post-here/186013/21 "2003-07-03T15:34:25Z")
Oh yeah. I was lazy and antisocial until college. I got decent grades all the way through high school because I was expected to, but I did the absolute minimum I could to earn them. This was because I resented any and all authority. Every teacher, administrator, and coach was an evil tyrant as far as I was concerned. Other kids who resented authority all hung out together, but I wasn’t a part of that crowd either. This was because I also feared and resented my peers. I made an entire social career out of alienating people and keeping them at as much distance from me as possible. I had no close friends. My worldview was that it was me against everybody else, and my mission in life was to make as much noise as I could before they succeded in grinding me into dust. I was extremely, extremely unhappy. With a little less conscience, a little more guts, and a little less supervision, I would have been very, very dangerous. ---
**Author:** ![XJETGIRLX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9fc29f/32.png) [@XJETGIRLX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XJETGIRLX)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-a-lazy-antisocial-jerk-in-school-post-here/186013/22 "2003-07-03T15:50:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by UnwrittenNocturne \* > 🙂 That sounds familiar, I graduated top of my class in both philosophy and pol sci, still with no study. We do not use GPA stuff this end of the world(and I do not really follow what it means). > > And hey, you read Asimov - all things are good You know, I think we may have a pattern here. All I’ve been doing at work for the past three months is studying philosophy instead of work, and I was just yesterday promoted to Political Operations Manager. Veeeeeery eeeeeenteresting, no? ---
**Author:** ![Peach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/67e7ee/32.png) [@Peach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peach)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-a-lazy-antisocial-jerk-in-school-post-here/186013/23 "2003-07-03T16:02:23Z")
HIgh school for me was constantly looking for a party. all i wanted to do was smoke and drink, smoke and drink, smoke and drink…i would hang out with people i didn’t even like!! Why?? So i could smoke and drink! ---
**Author:** ![XJETGIRLX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9fc29f/32.png) [@XJETGIRLX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XJETGIRLX)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-a-lazy-antisocial-jerk-in-school-post-here/186013/24 "2003-07-03T16:16:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Peach \* > HIgh school for me was constantly looking for a party. > all i wanted to do was smoke and drink, smoke and drink, smoke and drink…i would hang out with people i didn’t even like!! Why?? So i could smoke and drink! Um, hon, explain to me just how this is relevant? Did you click on the wrong thread? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-a-lazy-antisocial-jerk-in-school-post-here/186013/25 "2003-07-03T16:25:53Z")
Because sometimes people who party too much didn’t apply themselves in school (i.e., they were lazy academically). ---
**Author:** ![Peach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/67e7ee/32.png) [@Peach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peach)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-a-lazy-antisocial-jerk-in-school-post-here/186013/26 "2003-07-03T16:40:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dantheman \* > \*\*Because sometimes people who party too much didn’t apply themselves in school (i.e., they were lazy academically). \*\* RIGHT! ---
**Author:** ![Searching\_For\_Truth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Searching\_For\_Truth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Searching_For_Truth)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-a-lazy-antisocial-jerk-in-school-post-here/186013/27 "2003-07-03T16:51:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Francesca \* > \*\*The opposite of “I was bad at sports because my brain is so big if I ran I lost my balance”, is not “I was an awful student”, it’s “I was average”. > > I was average. \*\* High five for **Francesca**! We near-average folk need to stick together. 😉 Well, _I’d_ call “average” behavior for a high school student being lazy and anti-social, but for only part of the time. Laziness and apathy, however, are quickly becoming trademarks of the typical high school experience. ---
**Author:** ![Catfood\_Purrito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Catfood\_Purrito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catfood_Purrito)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-a-lazy-antisocial-jerk-in-school-post-here/186013/28 "2003-07-03T16:54:09Z")
Yet another lazy, antisocial freak. I, too, refused to do homework, yet aced all my tests. Graduated in the lower half of my class, but had the highest ACT score in the history of my high school. Flunked out my first year of college. Then, a couple years later, I enrolled in a medical transcription training program at a community college which was paid for by my soon-to-be employer. It was 14 weeks long, very intense, covered huge amounts of medical terminology, pharmacology, anatomy, physiology, and English in a very short amount of time. Luckily no homework was involved (except for one four-page paper), just two or three tests per week in each class, then a big final exam at the end. We were being paid to go to class, 9 dollars an hour, and were required to spend eight hours a day on campus, four hours of which were spent in classes. Were were supposed to spend the remainder of the time studying. I didn’t, I spent my time sitting in the lounge reading and laughing at my classmates as they grilled each other and made flash cards. I heard my classmates talk about how they studied several hours a day at home on top of the four hours a day on campus. I never opened a book outside of class. I came out of it with a 4.0 GPA. Lest anyone think that I just test well, I went on to awe my colleagues in transcription with my vast knowledge of medical terms, drugs, anatomy, and diseases, and went on to become the only quality assurance specialist in my department who had been with the Clinic for less than seven years (I had been there for three years at that point). So, the things I learned stuck. The training program just fit perfectly with my learning style, give it to me fast and test me every couple days, and then I won’t get bored. It was the best school experience I’ve ever had, and it would be nice if regular college were like that. ---
**Author:** ![UnwrittenNocturne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/6de8d8/32.png) [@UnwrittenNocturne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwrittenNocturne)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-a-lazy-antisocial-jerk-in-school-post-here/186013/29 "2003-07-03T16:59:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by XJETGIRLX \* > \*\*You know, I think we may have a pattern here. All I’ve been doing at work for the past three months is studying philosophy instead of work, and I was just yesterday promoted to Political Operations Manager. Veeeeeery eeeeeenteresting, no? \*\* Oh hey mind if I add you to my LJ friends list? What philosophy are you currently looking at? Congrats on the promotion BTW. ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-a-lazy-antisocial-jerk-in-school-post-here/186013/30 "2003-07-03T17:17:04Z")
Antisocial, definitely. Lazy … eh. If I’d put half as much energy into school as I did into trying to piss the administrators off, I would’ve had straight A’s. Jerkishness, IMO, is in the eyes of the beholder, so I won’t venture an opinion as to whether I was more guilty of it than the average teenager. While plenty of bright kids _do_ get along just fine in school, there’s a grain of truth to the smart-troublemaker stereotype. With the possible exception of some small private schools, high school is an extremely authoritarian environment, and highly intelligent people tend to be more likely than average students to question authority and more inventive at finding ways to bend the rules. I can’t imagine this comes as much of a surprise to anyone who has spent time in a classroom. ---
**Author:** ![XJETGIRLX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9fc29f/32.png) [@XJETGIRLX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XJETGIRLX)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-a-lazy-antisocial-jerk-in-school-post-here/186013/31 "2003-07-03T18:01:49Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Peach_ > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by dantheman \* > > Because sometimes people who party too much didn’t apply themselves in school (i.e., they were lazy academically). > > RIGHT! Ah, okay. I just kinda missed how that fit the whole anti-social thing as well. > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by UnwrittenNocturne_ > > Oh hey mind if I add you to my LJ friends list? > > What philosophy are you currently looking at? > > Congrats on the promotion BTW. Sure! (Man I hope your usericon is different enough from Nocturne’s!) Well, I’m delving into some semi-philosophical/psychological areas. Vaguely, Jungian personality theory, teleology, and socionics. That’s what happens when I get too much time on my hands. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![UnwrittenNocturne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/6de8d8/32.png) [@UnwrittenNocturne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwrittenNocturne)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-a-lazy-antisocial-jerk-in-school-post-here/186013/32 "2003-07-03T18:18:08Z")
Too much time huh, me too. mostly because I do this crappy night shift, Oh, my LJ name is ShatteredSaint. Jungian stuff…hmm…what are your thoughts so far? It is certainly a different epistemology! ---
**Author:** ![VenusProbe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e495f1/32.png) [@VenusProbe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VenusProbe)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-a-lazy-antisocial-jerk-in-school-post-here/186013/33 "2003-07-03T18:22:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ouisey \* > **VenusProbe, me too! The only reason I graduated from high school is because I showed up to make good grades on tests. This got me a 2.1 GPA:).** 1.9 till the 10th grade I gave up completely and ended up with a 0.9, ( I got a b in wood shop because the shop teacher didn’t realize I was making pipes and roach clips.) 😃 ---
**Author:** ![UnwrittenNocturne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/6de8d8/32.png) [@UnwrittenNocturne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwrittenNocturne)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-a-lazy-antisocial-jerk-in-school-post-here/186013/34 "2003-07-03T19:00:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by XJETGIRLX \* > \*\*RIGHT! Sure! (Man I hope your usericon is different enough from Nocturne’s!) Thanks! \*\* [/QUOTE] Yup quite different, it is the very cool _Vicious_ from the anime **Cowboy Bebop** ---
**Author:** ![av8rmike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/edb3f5/32.png) [@av8rmike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/av8rmike)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-a-lazy-antisocial-jerk-in-school-post-here/186013/35 "2003-07-03T19:49:33Z")
Definitely both here. Most of high school, I was anti-social and only hung out with some fellow RPG’ers. By senior year, ironically, I was so anti-social, I didn’t even want to hang out with them anymore… I was lazy too; I didn’t really start to apply myself until sometime around 10th or 11th grade. Luckily it wasn’t too late to get into a good college and a lot of things changed for me there. Of course, I’m _still_ pretty anti-social now, but I prefer to think of myself as “focused” instead of lazy. I’ll adopt one project at a time and will only think about that, neglecting things like cleaning the apartment, meals, writing friends back, etc… ---
**Author:** ![DreadCthulhu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DreadCthulhu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DreadCthulhu)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-a-lazy-antisocial-jerk-in-school-post-here/186013/36 "2003-07-03T20:01:35Z")
I was pretty lazy in High School, but still got good grades without having to try. As for the whole anti-social jerk, I ignored everybody, and just sat by myself brooding most of the time. After the Colubine shootings, a couple people tried to approach me to be friendly like, but I put an end to that by wearing a black trenchcoat. ---
**Author:** ![1ofthegulls](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/bcef8e/32.png) [@1ofthegulls](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/1ofthegulls)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-a-lazy-antisocial-jerk-in-school-post-here/186013/37 "2003-07-03T20:39:40Z")
I was exceedingly anti-social, but they made me that way ---
**Author:** ![XJETGIRLX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9fc29f/32.png) [@XJETGIRLX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XJETGIRLX)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-a-lazy-antisocial-jerk-in-school-post-here/186013/38 "2003-07-03T20:50:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by av8rmike \* > Of course, I’m _still_ pretty anti-social now, but I prefer to think of myself as “focused” instead of lazy. I’ll adopt one project at a time and will only think about that, neglecting things like cleaning the apartment, meals, writing friends back, etc… Woah. You’re a genius. Can I borrow that? (Actually I’m going to anyways, because I’m too lazy to wait for a reply 😃 ) ---
**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-a-lazy-antisocial-jerk-in-school-post-here/186013/39 "2003-07-03T21:04:27Z")
I was, am, and probably will always be a lazy bastard. I most likely could have gotten straight A’s easily had I bothered to do any homework or read the assigned books, but there were always better and more important things to do. There were TV shows that _had_ to be watched, and let’s not forget the Nintendo! My dad paid good money so I could have that Nintendo for my birthday, and I wasn’t about to give my father the impression that I didn’t appreciate that, so I had to play Mario Bros and Duck Hunt whenever I got the chance. As for the anti-social thing, I fell into that group my first two years of high school, but got pretty social during my junior and senior years (giving me even more things that needed doing other than schoolwork). During my last two years of high school, my main goal for doing homework was just keeping my grades high enough so I could continue with the extra-curicular stuff like the school plays and baseball. ---
**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-a-lazy-antisocial-jerk-in-school-post-here/186013/40 "2003-07-03T21:20:43Z")
I was a straight-A student up until the second quarter of eighth grade, when I dropped to a 1.7. Grades stayed very poor for the next couple years because I really just didn’t give a shit. Finally around halfway through tenth grade it occurred to me that I might want to go to college after all, at which point I got my shit together and went back to being a straight-A student. And ended up graduating first in my class from university. I’m still pretty lazy though, and I’m getting more and more anti-social the older I get. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-a-lazy-antisocial-jerk-in-school-post-here/186013.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-a-lazy-antisocial-jerk-in-school-post-here/186013.md?page=3)