# Were you surprised by the backlash from Kaepernick, other athletes kneeling vs. the public **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 22, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-surprised-by-the-backlash-from-kaepernick-other-athletes-kneeling-vs-the-public/842146 "2019-10-22T17:20:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-surprised-by-the-backlash-from-kaepernick-other-athletes-kneeling-vs-the-public/842146/81 "2019-10-23T18:24:56Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > …Krupinsky is the types that don’t want to admit that they are policing problems. > … Seriously, man? ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-surprised-by-the-backlash-from-kaepernick-other-athletes-kneeling-vs-the-public/842146/82 "2019-10-23T18:29:11Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Seriously, man? > [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > Tom Coughlin, a nonsense white executive, > [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > It’s facts. > [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > Privately, probably some was fuming. > > I know if they were still coaching, Mike Ditka won’t put up for it. > [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > Tortorella is one of the most bombastic head coaches in American sports. He is not someone to mess with. > [@What If: Republicans win fourth term in 1992](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-republicans-win-fourth-term-in-1992/842024/5): > > Would the party of Jesse Helms in a sense in the eyes of a lot of people who observe the GOP > [@Why are Skip Bayless, etc. not liked?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-skip-bayless-etc-not-liked/842019/1): > > Why are Skip Bayless, etc. not liked? But my favourite still remains: > [@Any Independent Presidential candidates campaigning yet?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-independent-presidential-candidates-campaigning-yet/841438/2): > > I am a Independent voter who is disillusioned with both political parties. ---
**Author:** ![Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-surprised-by-the-backlash-from-kaepernick-other-athletes-kneeling-vs-the-public/842146/83 "2019-10-23T18:49:52Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Comrade, **are you trying to stir up some racial controversy as we head into an election year?** This has been a quiet issue since the last election, and for some reason you want to start talking about it again. As I said before, the NFL and the Players have come to terms over this, and there is no current controversy We’re all happy and in love here in the USA, uniting against corruption and quid pro quos. I’m not trying to stir up anything, it’s talked about on ESPN and Fox Sports 1 and other venues. America is about free speech, let’s have discussions. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-surprised-by-the-backlash-from-kaepernick-other-athletes-kneeling-vs-the-public/842146/84 "2019-10-23T19:27:59Z")
> [@Any Independent Presidential candidates campaigning yet?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-independent-presidential-candidates-campaigning-yet/841438/2): > > But my favourite still remains: > > > [@Any Independent Presidential candidates campaigning yet?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-independent-presidential-candidates-campaigning-yet/841438/2): > > > > You’re feeling like I am feeling; I am a Independent voter who is disillusioned with both political parties. Hell, I agree with Yankees 1996 Champs. I also am disillusioned with both A Just Russia and United Russia parties and will never vote for them. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-surprised-by-the-backlash-from-kaepernick-other-athletes-kneeling-vs-the-public/842146/85 "2019-10-23T21:19:14Z")
It’s funny, I really would’ve pegged him as a Sox fan. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-surprised-by-the-backlash-from-kaepernick-other-athletes-kneeling-vs-the-public/842146/86 "2019-10-23T21:21:44Z")
Red or White? Gotta be Red- but not Boston Red. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-surprised-by-the-backlash-from-kaepernick-other-athletes-kneeling-vs-the-public/842146/87 "2019-10-23T21:23:46Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > I’m not trying to stir up anything, it’s talked about on ESPN and Fox Sports 1 and other venues. > > America is about free speech, let’s have discussions. No it’s not. Not lately anyway. And don’t lecture me about what America is about. I’ve been an American longer than Russia has been a country. (this time around, anyway) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-surprised-by-the-backlash-from-kaepernick-other-athletes-kneeling-vs-the-public/842146/88 "2019-10-23T22:05:40Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Red or White? Gotta be Red- but not Boston Red. I am fond of red chowder, but your post made me wonder if white borscht is a thing. I guess they could make it from sugar beets? ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-surprised-by-the-backlash-from-kaepernick-other-athletes-kneeling-vs-the-public/842146/89 "2019-10-23T22:27:03Z")
Chiogga beets wind up a pale pink when boiled … you can probably use those. ---
**Author:** ![Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-surprised-by-the-backlash-from-kaepernick-other-athletes-kneeling-vs-the-public/842146/90 "2019-10-24T01:47:58Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Yes, we do need to get us one of those. > > BTW, have you been following [this](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=736919) thread? Yes, I first saw it yesterday. I’m not going to use it however to demonize every single police officer as a lot of people on the left has done. There is a reason why cops are more politically active in this era now than in the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-surprised-by-the-backlash-from-kaepernick-other-athletes-kneeling-vs-the-public/842146/91 "2019-10-24T01:53:51Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > I’m not going to use it however to demonize every single police officer as a lot of people on the left has done. Not every politician is crooked. So do you trust them to act in your best interest? ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-surprised-by-the-backlash-from-kaepernick-other-athletes-kneeling-vs-the-public/842146/92 "2019-10-24T02:11:30Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > What about white head coaches like John Tortorella and John Krupinsky who say that the anthem protest is disrespectful to the military? I value the judgment of the combat (IIRC) veteran who directly advised Kaepernick on this issue before he did anything more than theirs on this one. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-surprised-by-the-backlash-from-kaepernick-other-athletes-kneeling-vs-the-public/842146/93 "2019-10-24T03:12:48Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > I value the judgment of the combat (IIRC) veteran who directly advised Kaepernick on this issue before he did anything more than theirs on this one. [You remember correctly: Nate Boyer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Boyer): > [@](#): > > After multiple tours in both Iraq and Afghanistan, Boyer earned an honorable discharge after six years of service. ---
**Author:** ![Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-surprised-by-the-backlash-from-kaepernick-other-athletes-kneeling-vs-the-public/842146/94 "2019-10-24T04:12:08Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Not every politician is crooked. So do you trust them to act in your best interest? No. But I don’t hate cops or call for their deaths like a lot on the far left do. I want accountable cops, like most Americans should want. Every cop is not evil. They’re supposed to do their job in the responsible way. Stopping someone during a traffic stop is not evil, it is a their job. But they are not supposed to break the law and abuse power. I’m not a cop, you are not a cop. I want them to do their jobs, what I won’t do is demonize and call for their murders like a lot of crazed people did this decade that partly led to the political chaos that we have today. As for Kaepernick, he should probably try to play again and stay above the fray. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-surprised-by-the-backlash-from-kaepernick-other-athletes-kneeling-vs-the-public/842146/95 "2019-10-24T04:22:57Z")
A lot on the far left called for the death of cops? How do you define “a lot”? ---
**Author:** ![Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-surprised-by-the-backlash-from-kaepernick-other-athletes-kneeling-vs-the-public/842146/96 "2019-10-24T04:29:06Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > A lot on the far left called for the death of cops? How do you define “a lot”? Some said some things online. However back to the topic at hand, were you surprised with the Kaepernick story? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-surprised-by-the-backlash-from-kaepernick-other-athletes-kneeling-vs-the-public/842146/97 "2019-10-24T04:39:10Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > Some said some things online. However back to the topic at hand, were you surprised with the Kaepernick story? Nice try. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-surprised-by-the-backlash-from-kaepernick-other-athletes-kneeling-vs-the-public/842146/98 "2019-10-24T04:55:43Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > However back to the topic at hand, were you surprised with the Kaepernick story? No, I was not surprised at your Kaepernick story. The next US election approaches so I expected a surge in people on the internet claiming to be independent voters whilst resurrecting known flashpoint topics. I did expect them to have better English, but I guess it’s early days yet so you’ve got plenty of time to improve. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-surprised-by-the-backlash-from-kaepernick-other-athletes-kneeling-vs-the-public/842146/99 "2019-10-24T05:11:00Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > Some said some things online. “Some peope did something.” ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-surprised-by-the-backlash-from-kaepernick-other-athletes-kneeling-vs-the-public/842146/100 "2019-10-24T05:18:04Z")
Dammit! That should read: _“Some people did something.”_ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-surprised-by-the-backlash-from-kaepernick-other-athletes-kneeling-vs-the-public/842146.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-you-surprised-by-the-backlash-from-kaepernick-other-athletes-kneeling-vs-the-public/842146.md?page=6)