# Werewolf a game Part 2 (this time with MAFIA!) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 26, 2007, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565 "2007-03-26T16:47:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 121
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/2401 "2007-04-11T18:52:02Z")
I like **pima** ’s reasoning. Lynch **Autolycus**. Assassinate **Fern Forest**. BUT, let’s not be in a hurry here. I’ll unvote if we get too close to starting the timer before, say Friday. Question to NAF: can I reveal another Mason in my one post after death? ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/2402 "2007-04-11T18:55:55Z")
[QUOTE=Fretful Porpentine] I don’t mean to rain on a perfectly good lynching parade here, but if **Fern Forest** is really the Serial Killer, does it make sense for him to talk _that_ much about the Serial Killer? Making the point – once or twice – that the serial killer is likely to play on the town’s side would be prudent; keeping such a high profile and mentioning the SK in more than a dozen different posts just seems like it … wouldn’t. And since there’s only one Serial Killer and a one-in-seven chance that a cop who’s wrong is going to get a Serial Killer reading, it seems to me any given, one-time reading of SK is significantly more likely to be a false positive than a true reading. No? OTOH, I _am_ all but convinced about **Autolycus** , because **Menoccio** ’s point makes a hell of a lot of sense. [/QUOTE] It wasn’t really high profile, in the sense that I had not even suspected **Fern Forest** of the SK role. Only when looking at all of the posts, did it become clear. I could very well be wrong. In my analysis post, I did not include posts that were not relevant to the case I was making. \*\* Fern\*\* had many many more posts, and these were sprinkled throughout. **Fern Forest** all but got lynched yesterday and I am betting was hoping I would get a Town reading and vindicate him. That with the possiblility that I was being protected probably steered him toward a different target. Then when you factor in the \*\*Autolycus \*\* analysis, things start to make perfect sense to me. ---
**Author:** ![Queuing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/90ced4/32.png) [@Queuing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queuing)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/2403 "2007-04-11T18:57:00Z")
DAY 4 Votes **6 – Autolycus** – (Fernforest, rysto, queuing, menecchio, MTS, starvingbutstrong, pleonast **0 - JSexton** – (Menecchio Unvote – (menecchio **0 - Fern Forest** – (queuing Unvote – (queuing The vig count is the same, except it is 6 for **Fern Forest** ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/2404 "2007-04-11T18:58:17Z")
[QUOTE=Queuing] DAY 4 Votes **6 – Autolycus** – (Fernforest, rysto, queuing, menecchio, MTS, starvingbutstrong, pleonast **0 - JSexton** – (Menecchio Unvote – (menecchio **0 - Fern Forest** – (queuing Unvote – (queuing The vig count is the same, except it is 6 for **Fern Forest** [/QUOTE] I was the first to vote Auto, so make it 7 ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/2405 "2007-04-11T18:59:32Z")
[QUOTE=Pleonast] I like **pima** ’s reasoning. Lynch **Autolycus**. Assassinate **Fern Forest**. BUT, let’s not be in a hurry here. I’ll unvote if we get too close to starting the timer before, say Friday. Question to NAF: can I reveal another Mason in my one post after death? [/QUOTE] My own opinion only, but I feel that the one post is meant only for “bah, go team” and nothing more. You’re dead, after all, and the dead don’t talk. I feel that the long-winded posts post-death by a couple players are against the spirit of the rule. It’s generally banned behavior on mafia sites. That said, it’s of course up to NAF to rule on. ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/2406 "2007-04-11T18:59:47Z")
[QUOTE=Queuing] DAY 4 Votes **6 – Autolycus** – (Fernforest, rysto, queuing, menecchio, MTS, starvingbutstrong, pleonast **0 - JSexton** – (Menecchio Unvote – (menecchio **0 - Fern Forest** – (queuing Unvote – (queuing The vig count is the same, except it is 6 for **Fern Forest** [/QUOTE] actually, fern forest hasn’t posted yet. 7 - autolycus - pimaspinner, rysto, queuing, menocchio, madtheswine, starvingbutstong, pleonast ---
**Author:** ![hocow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hocow/32/4112_2.png) [@hocow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hocow)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/2407 "2007-04-11T19:00:03Z")
Well, I feel confident that **JSexton** is town based on 2 known scum trying hard to have him lynched yesterday. I also believe that **Autolycus** could very well be the GF. It makes sense that he would be so blatant with his mob speak and live so long. **Malacandra** , I have never been so suspicious of you as I am right now. I noticed you voted for a VIG kill of **Fern Forest** , but did not respond at all to the claim of **Auto** being the Godfather. I think you may be trying to help your team by voting for the SK, but you are also being on the sly about a Godfather attack. Perhaps, you thought you would side with the town on one issue, thereby hoping we would overlook the fact that you didn’t touch the GF claim. You’re officially number one on my list of unconfirmed players. But I agree with the town’s strategy today, so: Lynch Autolycus Assassinate Fern Forest ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/2408 "2007-04-11T19:01:18Z")
[QUOTE=Pleonast] I like **pima** ’s reasoning. Lynch **Autolycus**. Assassinate **Fern Forest**. BUT, let’s not be in a hurry here. I’ll unvote if we get too close to starting the timer before, say Friday. Question to NAF: can I reveal another Mason in my one post after death? [/QUOTE] No, you may only say goodbye. Once you are dead you can’t speak anymore about the game. ---
**Author:** ![hocow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hocow/32/4112_2.png) [@hocow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hocow)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/2409 "2007-04-11T19:01:23Z")
Whoops. Assassinate Fern Forest ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/2410 "2007-04-11T19:03:01Z")
Also, I’m onboard with the prevailing plan, but there’s no need to end the day yet, and we’re already two away from lynch. Plenty of time to let other players check in, folks. ---
**Author:** ![MonkeyMensch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@MonkeyMensch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMensch)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/2411 "2007-04-11T19:04:51Z")
Ahhh. The satisfied sigh of re-reading the thread now with so much more factiness in it. Vote Autolycus. I had **Autolycus** in my gray-area shading to town just because I thought the whole schtick was having fun in a role-playing way. But that analysis jibes so nicely with his being GF. As for a Vig vote I want to read **Pima** ’s posts (and nice work, by the way) in context, not as individual posts, so I’ll be a few minutes(!). ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/2412 "2007-04-11T19:05:44Z")
> [@](#): > > It wasn’t really high profile, in the sense that I had not even suspected Fern Forest of the SK role. Only when looking at all of the posts, did it become clear. I could very well be wrong. In my analysis post, I did not include posts that were not relevant to the case I was making. Fern had many many more posts, and these were sprinkled throughout. Well, that’s actually what I meant by “high profile” – I’m saying that I don’t think it makes sense for the SK to post a lot, period. It seems to me that the sensible thing to do would be to keep one’s mouth shut and fly under everybody’s radar. That said, I can also see how a certain personality type might find it hard-to-impossible NOT to talk about it, so I guess I’m an agnostic about **Fern Forest**. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/2413 "2007-04-11T19:05:55Z")
Unvote Autolycus Jeez, no need to start the clock yet, guys. ---
**Author:** ![Queuing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/90ced4/32.png) [@Queuing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queuing)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/2414 "2007-04-11T19:07:02Z")
Geez, I am horrible at this vote counts. I won’t do it anymore. Where it said 'fern Forest" it should have been “pimaspinner”. I was just trying to make people sort of aware that the magic number is close. Sigh My bad. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/2415 "2007-04-11T19:12:50Z")
As I thought, the past death’s door reveal isn’t allowed. Then, while we’re cogitating who to lynch tomorrow–what’s our Mason strategy? Because the default position of the last confirmed Mason going to the grave seems risky. Unvote **Autolycus**. He still needs to be strung up, we need more time to think. [programmer] And **Queuing** , please either use matched parentheses or none at all. Your unbalanced "("s irk the hell out of me. [/programmer] ---
**Author:** ![Aguecheek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@Aguecheek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aguecheek)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/2416 "2007-04-11T19:16:44Z")
Sweet! 2 scum and a fantastical recap by **pimaspinner**. I’ll hold off on the voting for now, per consensus, but right now I’m down with the town. Lynch **Auto** , assassinate **Fern**. (Not official! See! No colour). ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/2417 "2007-04-11T19:19:11Z")
[QUOTE=hocow] Well, I feel confident that **JSexton** is town based on 2 known scum trying hard to have him lynched yesterday. I also believe that **Autolycus** could very well be the GF. It makes sense that he would be so blatant with his mob speak and live so long. **Malacandra** , I have never been so suspicious of you as I am right now. I noticed you voted for a VIG kill of **Fern Forest** , but did not respond at all to the claim of **Auto** being the Godfather. I think you may be trying to help your team by voting for the SK, but you are also being on the sly about a Godfather attack. Perhaps, you thought you would side with the town on one issue, thereby hoping we would overlook the fact that you didn’t touch the GF claim. You’re officially number one on my list of unconfirmed players. But I agree with the town’s strategy today, so: Lynch Autolycus Assassinate Fern Forest [/QUOTE] Hamsters ate my post. I saw the FF analysis first and my earlier post was composed around bathing my son. Now I see there’s plenty of momentum around Autolycus and I’m no more anxious to start the countdown than anyone else. That do? Get rid of the SK as soon as possible. Uncontrolled kills don’t help us, and “Good work SK. I’ll probably lynch you in the morning” is no way to keep him onside. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/2418 "2007-04-11T19:20:28Z")
**Pleonast** , the way I see it, if there’s only one Mason left, it’s probably better to confirm them now. If there are more than one left, then leave them unconfirmed; they can confirm themselves. But you should probably tell us how many Masons are left. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/2419 "2007-04-11T19:22:11Z")
[QUOTE=Pleonast] As I thought, the past death’s door reveal isn’t allowed. Then, while we’re cogitating who to lynch tomorrow–what’s our Mason strategy? Because the default position of the last confirmed Mason going to the grave seems risky. Unvote **Autolycus**. He still needs to be strung up, we need more time to think. [programmer] And **Queuing** , please either use matched parentheses or none at all. Your unbalanced "("s irk the hell out of me. [/programmer] [/QUOTE] I suggest you pipe up while you can. One lone Mason might as well be vanilla. We have several power roles about the place and the scum can’t hit them all. You can play chicken with them if you like but if you die tonight we’ve another unknown who could have been confirmed. Any dissenters? ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/2420 "2007-04-11T19:25:59Z")
[QUOTE=Malacandra] I suggest you pipe up while you can. One lone Mason might as well be vanilla. We have several power roles about the place and the scum can’t hit them all. You can play chicken with them if you like but if you die tonight we’ve another unknown who could have been confirmed. Any dissenters? [/QUOTE] I agree that if there is only one left, confirm him today so we know enough not to lynch him. If there are more than one, they can confirm each other. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565.md?page=120) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565.md?page=122)