# Werewolf a game Part 2 (this time with MAFIA!) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 26, 2007, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565 "2007-03-26T16:47:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 177
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2007, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/3521 "2007-05-04T22:51:58Z")
Time’s almost up. People who haven’t voted yet: you’ll be prime suspects tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2007, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/3522 "2007-05-04T23:10:32Z")
Less than 4.5 hours to go. 4- hocow - (StarvingButStrong, Kat, MonkeyMensch, Pygmy Rugger) 2- Pygmy Rugger - (Queuing, Lakai) 1 -brewha - (Fretful Porpentine) 1- Rysto - (Pleonast) 1- Lakai - (brewha) 1- MonkeyMensch - (hocow) Hocow, you still need 2 posts, but I am not sure that it matters all that much at this point. See what happens when you don’t post. ---
**Author:** ![hocow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hocow/32/4112_2.png) [@hocow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hocow)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2007, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/3523 "2007-05-04T23:22:04Z")
I only need one more, actually. But I’ll be dead in a few hours anyway. Again, I can’t really post a defense other than saying I’m a townie. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2007, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/3524 "2007-05-04T23:29:46Z")
[QUOTE=hocow] I only need one more, actually. But I’ll be dead in a few hours anyway. Again, I can’t really post a defense other than saying I’m a townie. [/QUOTE] Well in that case, congradulations on making it to the post threshold! You will not be modkilled tonight! \*\* 4 hours left\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2007, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/3525 "2007-05-05T00:00:10Z")
I’m going to go ahead and vote for Pygmy Rugger. I agree with most of the [analysis](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8533494&postcount=3494) **storyteller** has provided this Day. There’s one other thing I’d like to [add](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8525802&postcount=3456): > [@Pygmy Rugger](#): > > His last sentence is the most important. Of the four people he lists, Ague and cowgirl are dead. cowgirl was presumably killed by the Mafia. That makes me think that the SK killed sturm last night, because they didn’t want him to continue pushing this line of thinking. brewha and Queuing should be looked at very closely, IMHO. I honestly don’t see how we can say with any confidence that **cowgirl v2.0** was killed by the Mafia. There were a lot of people – myself included – who were very suspicious of her role-claim. I came into this Day ready to start a bandwagon against her, and I definitely think that there’s a good possibility that the Mafia might have let her alone to see if the Town would kill her. If that’s the case, the SK might have had the same suspicions many of us had, and killed her trying for Mafia. And, of course, it’s possible that the SK believed her but killed her because he’s turned against the Town. I wouldn’t have any confidence predicting which of these is true, and I’m quite suspicious that **Pygmy Rugger** is speaking as if the first scenario is obviously the one that happened. Also, given that killing the SK benefits the Mafia as well as the Town, I find it far more likely that the Mafia will be among those who are pushing the Town to go after the SK. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2007, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/3526 "2007-05-05T00:40:34Z")
All right, I guess it’s time to hop off the fence. I’m going to vote Pygmy Rugger with the understanding that **MonkeyMensch** is the first candidate for FoS-ing tomorrow AM in the morning. ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2007, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/3527 "2007-05-05T01:00:47Z")
That makes it a tie, doesn’t it? Hmmm. Well, PR was on my short list, too, so it wouldn’t bother me to see him take the lead. Are there any votes left to be cast? ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2007, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/3528 "2007-05-05T01:25:09Z")
[QUOTE=brewha] If I’m reading this right, I"m on the Pygmy Rugger wagon with Queuing and Lakai. I don’t like it. Unvote Pygmy Rugger [/QUOTE] Great. It’s a tie right now, don’t you want to see Pygmy Rugger hang over hocow? ---
**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2007, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/3529 "2007-05-05T02:20:51Z")
Great. Thanks, **Lakai** , now I have to scrub my brain out with soap. I hope you’re happy. ---
**Author:** ![MonkeyMensch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@MonkeyMensch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMensch)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2007, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/3530 "2007-05-05T02:25:16Z")
[QUOTE=storyteller0910] … I also took some time and read **Queuing’s** analysis of **MonkeyMensch** , and was surprised to find that I quite agree with **Queuing.** It’s by and large not what he’s said - it’s the fact that he’s said very little. There’s no _there_ there. **MonkeyMensch** has kept a profile so low he can barely be seen. In his initial rebuttal to **Queuing’s** accusatory analysis, he claimed he was starting to get reads on one or three players - where are they? Since then he has said almost literally nothing. His only contributions have been to cast doubt on **Aguecheek** (and vote for him), and that chiefly because **Aguecheek** had draw attention to **Monkey** by posting suspicion of him. His other contributions have been pre-emptive strikes against any reasoning linking him with **Aguecheek,** jokes, and general friendly posts. This is a player who doesn’t want to be noticed, folks. Not at all, not even a little bit. [/quote] I was reading the end of the thread where you were pointing out my lack of response and thinking , “huh?” I hadn’t even noticed this questioning earlier. My apologies. Time and life press always. I’ve tried to keep my posts few but with whatever solid info and observations I have at the time. I’m not sure where anyone else gets such solid reads on players but I have, at most, two or three players in suspicion. Right now, in addition to **hocow** , I mildly suspect **Lakai** and **Starving**. To be honest, I’d rather be watching **Lakai** take the steps. But since I have no-read on \*\*Pygmy Rugger \*\* I need to leave my vote on **hocow** and hope for the best. We’re treading some seriously thin ice here, folks. And just for good luck, since it worked with **Aguecheek** , I say, “Please be scum.” If you want to FoS me I’m going to be around Sunday a.m. online and would be happy to chat. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2007, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/3531 "2007-05-05T02:36:52Z")
OK. Since it is a tie and I don’t want it to come down to a coin toss, I’m going to unvote brewha and vote hocow. If it’s between a quiet poster and a vocal one, I’m inclined to think the quiet one is more likely to have something to hide. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2007, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/3532 "2007-05-05T02:47:04Z")
ok so good news and bad news. Bad news, I got called in to do an extra show at the theater I freelance at tonight and I will be working when the day ends. Good news…I have my phone and will post the lynch results within a half hour of the night starting! (45 min btw) Terrible news, typing in a post on my phone is hard… so you will be deprived of my delightful color comentary. I know, I am sad too. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2007, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/3533 "2007-05-05T02:56:30Z")
oh and hocow is in the lead with 5 votes ---
**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2007, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/3534 "2007-05-05T03:27:06Z")
What good are the results without the color commentary?! I’ll boycott! Lynch NAF1138! ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2007, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/3535 "2007-05-05T03:29:22Z")
[QUOTE=Kat] Lynch NAF1138! [/QUOTE] That’s what I’ve been saying since night before last! No wonder we can’t find sucm, NAF has this shit rigged! ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2007, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/3536 "2007-05-05T03:48:49Z")
ok well since Kat will boycot without commetary… nope no square brackets on my phone… Night falls on Doperville and the town is still divided…but due to her sudden lack of participation in town meetings they decide that hocow is the best person to lynch. As the light fades from her eyes hocow has a revelation andspeaks the truth about herself…but the town is unable to hear her. hocow - citizen has been killed. 48 hours for night votes starting 15 minutes ago. ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2007, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/3537 "2007-05-05T03:55:23Z")
Oh, damn. :smack: :smack: :smack: :smack: :smack: We are so screwed. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![MonkeyMensch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@MonkeyMensch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMensch)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2007, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/3538 "2007-05-05T03:55:23Z")
Feh. Piffle. Shit. ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2007, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/3539 "2007-05-05T04:08:20Z")
WTF? Seriously! ---
**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2007, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/3540 "2007-05-05T04:20:32Z")
Damnit! Sorry, **hocow**. (Wow, I’ve never had a boycott work before. I have power!) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565.md?page=176) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565.md?page=178)