# Werewolf a game Part 2 (this time with MAFIA!)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 26, 2007, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565 "2007-03-26T16:47:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/481 "2007-03-29T15:51:14Z")

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[QUOTE=MadTheSwine]  
What happens if SK and VIG kill the same person?  
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Then only that person dies and one of them wasted a choice. Or made a good choice…guess it all depends on how you look at it. 😃

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/482 "2007-03-29T15:52:52Z")

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[QUOTE=zuma]  
So town can’t win unless the serial killer is dead? We need to kill the serial killer if we’re to win? Mod, if I understand this correctly, in order for town or mafia to win, the serial killer needs to be dead, right?  
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This is correct.  
And Enfant Terrible is now at 8 votes.

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**Author:** ![cowgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@cowgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cowgirl)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/483 "2007-03-29T15:53:53Z")

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Phew, made it to the end of the thread. It’s taken me all morning but here I am!

I don’t buy the reasoning for mistrusting **sturmhauke**. It requires that we correctly guess the mindset of all three killers and I don’t think we have enough info to do that yet.

I’ve also got nothing against **Autolycus** , given his posts I think he is equally likely to be citizen or scum. I bet he decided to talk like a mafioso before he even got his role.

Likewise with **chrisK** , he was just trying out a strategy and probably would have done the same thing regardless of his role.

I trust **storyteller** because I agree with everything s/he said in post #438, and **Gadarene** because he agreed with critical parts of it too. **Pleonast** ’s list seems to match mine so I’ll go ahead and trust him too.

Very curious about **MadTheSwine** ’s hard-on for **Winston**. When did it start, before or after roles were distributed?

**Enfant Terrible** and **Queueing** do seem to be covering for each other a bit, so I mistrust them - and if one is Mafia, both are. It kind of looks like **CaerieD** is trying to deflect suspicion from **ET** so throw her in the pot of mistrust as well.

Lynch **Enfant Terrible**

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/484 "2007-03-29T15:55:20Z")

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[QUOTE=cowgirl]

Lynch **Enfant Terrible**  
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9 votes.

One more to lynch and end the day.

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/485 "2007-03-29T15:57:22Z")

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I’ll put my money where my mouth is.

Lynch Enfant Terrible

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**Author:** ![Queuing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/90ced4/32.png) [@Queuing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queuing)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/486 "2007-03-29T16:00:58Z")

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So does that mean the day is now over?

I hope so, maybe I won’t get fired if I stop reading this thread :).

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/487 "2007-03-29T16:07:37Z")

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_And in a mad rush of suspicion and accusation one cry made it through the clammor of the crow “LYNCH ENFANT TERRIBLE” Quiet at first then gaining volume until the frenzy could not be contained. The crowd lurched towards **Enfant Terrible** and quickly and violently tore him apart, limb from limb, before he even made it to the noose._  
Night falls on Doperville, and **Enfant Terrible** , a Citizen, has been killed.  
Get your night votes in. You have 48 hours from now before you reach the deadline. I will end the night early again as soon as all the night voters have their decisions in to me.

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**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/488 "2007-03-29T16:10:03Z")

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At this point, I return to hiding under the covers.

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**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/489 "2007-03-29T16:12:32Z")

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Well that was disappointing. I do feel vindicated in my choice not to vote for **Enfant Terrible** , though. So sorry you had to go like that.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/490 "2007-03-29T16:13:17Z")

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[QUOTE=NAF1138]  
One more to lynch and end the day.  
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Guys, I really don’t think that it’s a good idea to end the day prematurely. The longer this day lasts, the more information we can collect. It may be too late for that now, but in future days, let’s keep that in mind.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/491 "2007-03-29T16:13:56Z")

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Wow! No cooling off period or nothing.I am toast …see ya later.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/492 "2007-03-29T16:15:15Z")

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Farewell Enfant Terrible.

NAF1138, As I understand it, there’s no analysis allowed until night ends?

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**Author:** ![The\_Understander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@The\_Understander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Understander)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/493 "2007-03-29T16:15:42Z")

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Eight votes now… everything can change in the blink of an eye!

Time for some refutations posthaste.

Wait. Why bother? I’m wondering if a better strategy is to just be lynched. You’ll all gain some useful information regarding the motivations of people who began the bandwagon to string me up… and when I am confirmed townie–at my funeral, it appears-- I urge you all to look VERY hard at \*\*storyteller0910 \*\* and the first few people who FOS me WITHOUT VOTING (Suspicious, given what I’ve seen of this game–they’d want the townies to off their own first, and they have far more info, relatively speaking, than the rest of us regarding who is who (whom?))

As to the question regarding why I’d want to give away power roles (re: the infamous ‘posters who strategize early tend to have power’ post), I’d just ask you to consider that:

1. I’m a rank n00b at this game. I don’t even see moves that far down the line–not reliably, in any case.

2. Power role, as I was using the term, can mean anything… remember, we have mafia, SK, AND Vigilante to worry about–and scum outnumbers good guys when we speak generically of power roles. So any potential info I gave regarding town, IMO, is overridden by the info I potentially gave regarding the bad guys.  
Besides that–I didn’t mention any names when I gave that little bit of advice.

I don’t plan going out like Obi-Wan though, so for what it’s worth, here’s my WAG:

Trust: \*\*Myself, Kat \*\* (she’s dead on about me reading the last game), the honored dead

Distrust: **Pleonast** (first vote change. I always find that funny), Blaster Master (if **chrisk** is on your trust list for now, disclaimer aside, why discount the hypothetical result he came up with that I am town?), **storyteller0910** (I admit he’s providing cogent analysis here. But to what end? See above on that.)

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/494 "2007-03-29T16:15:58Z")

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Whoops. I feel like Kevin Kline in _A Fish Called Wanda_.

I’m sorry. **Enfant Terrible** , I’m sorry. Sorry I helped get you lynched. Although you could have defended yourself better. You idiot. You idiot! What were you thinking? Why were you so suspicious? I can’t believe you didn’t speak up! …I’m sorry. I’m sorry.

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**Author:** ![The\_Understander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@The\_Understander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Understander)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/495 "2007-03-29T16:17:09Z")

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Geez! Too late already? I went from 8-10 composing that thing?

Ah well, to the forbidden thread… and mark my words people… avenge my death… I’ll be hanging out with the 72 virgin–

What do you mean they’re Virginians? Oh, for the love of…

_dead_

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/496 "2007-03-29T16:27:03Z")

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[QUOTE=glee]  
Farewell Enfant Terrible.

NAF1138, As I understand it, there’s no analysis allowed until night ends?  
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Correct, general chatter only. No strategy or analysis.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/497 "2007-03-29T16:27:27Z")

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We aint looking good…4 dead citizens after one day.

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**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/498 "2007-03-29T16:30:13Z")

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Wow that was fast! Sorry **Enfant Terrible**. You were just suspicious to me. :smack:

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/499 "2007-03-29T16:37:50Z")

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So, um…bar’s quiet tonight. Maybe I should be home in bed.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/500 "2007-03-29T16:40:05Z")

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Shit…what the hell…lets drink **Winston**

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