# Werewolf a game Part 2 (this time with MAFIA!) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 26, 2007, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565 "2007-03-26T16:47:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 38
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/741 "2007-04-01T00:43:15Z")
Sub Plank has voted for Pleonast. ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/742 "2007-04-01T00:49:17Z")
The vote counts are not accurate…can we have a recap? ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/743 "2007-04-01T00:51:37Z")
Wow. I’ve spent at least four hours today reading this thread. So far I’ve come to one firm conclusion: Blaster Master sure does post a lot. :dubious: A couple of his posts make me suspicious, otoh, I’m suspicious of most of the people who have voted for him, and isn’t the enemy of my enemy a friend? So I’m going to vote queuing. (This is kind of tentative and likely to change.) ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/744 "2007-04-01T00:52:30Z")
Know **chrisk** has subbed out…whaddya all think of that? ---
**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/745 "2007-04-01T01:03:51Z")
[QUOTE=MadTheSwine] Know **chrisk** has subbed out…whaddya all think of that? [/QUOTE] I hope it’s because he hasn’t got the time to keep up with the thread and not that he’s a townie who was in danger of being lynched and didn’t think he was going to be able to talk himself out of it. If it’s the latter it’s annoying. Hopefully who ever subs can get up to speed. Lots of reading to read. ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/746 "2007-04-01T01:04:16Z")
[QUOTE=Fern Forest] We are now 26 hours into our 2nd day. We have nearly 4 days left of deliberation. Plenty of time for you three to find a way to defend yourselves. [/QUOTE] These 26 hour days are killing me. ---
**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/747 "2007-04-01T01:06:49Z")
[QUOTE=MadTheSwine] These 26 hour days are killing me. [/QUOTE] I got bad news for you, we only just had breakfast. I PM’d JSexton to see about subbing. ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/748 "2007-04-01T01:09:14Z")
[QUOTE=Fern Forest] I hope it’s because he hasn’t got the time to keep up with the thread and not that he’s a townie who was in danger of being lynched and didn’t think he was going to be able to talk himself out of it. If it’s the latter it’s annoying. Hopefully who ever subs can get up to speed. Lots of reading to read. [/QUOTE] Sadly,it seems to be the latter. :mad: Should help us out though,mebbe a strategic move on his part? ---
**Author:** ![Aguecheek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@Aguecheek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aguecheek)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/749 "2007-04-01T01:23:44Z")
[QUOTE=MadTheSwine] Sadly,it seems to be the latter. :mad: [/QUOTE] I _do not_ want to start anything and I’m not trying to imply anything…but could you elaborate on how you came to that conclusion, or is it just from what he’s posted here? It seems that way, but I’m just curious. I agree on :mad: if it’s the latter. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/750 "2007-04-01T01:25:50Z")
Based on this: > [@chrisk](#): > > I’m not intentionally acting suspicious! Maybe I really can’t help it, I… I… > I guess I’ve been taking this stuff way too seriously ever since something went a way I didn’t expect it to. This is just a game, and it really isn’t healthy for me to be getting so spun over it… > > I’m really, really, really tempted to drop out of the game, not show my username for months in MPSIMS or IMHO for months, maybe the whole board, because I feel really foolish over how badly things have gone - but what could someone else EVER manage to do stepping into my shoes at this point? I mean, REALLY?? > > (Runs off into a corner, hyperventilating.) I’d say he bowed out due to the pressure. Yeesh. ---
**Author:** ![FlyingCowOfDoom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyingcowofdoom/32/21776_2.png) [@FlyingCowOfDoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingCowOfDoom)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/751 "2007-04-01T01:29:39Z")
Here’s my count of the votes: Blaster Master - 4 (Gadarene, hocow, pimaspinner, Queuing) Pleonast - 4 (Kat, Fern Forest, MadTheSwine, Suburban Plankton) chrisk - 4 (ArizonaTeach, FlyingCowOfDoom, Pygmy Rugger, Lakai) Queuing - 2 (StarvingButStrong, Zuma) Brewha - 1 (MonkeyMensch) FlyingCowOfDoom - 1 (Fretful Porpentine) Gadarene - 1 (chrisk) > [@chrisk](#): > > I’m really, really, really tempted to drop out of the game, not show my username for months in MPSIMS or IMHO for months, maybe the whole board, because I feel really foolish over how badly things have gone - but what could someone else EVER manage to do stepping into my shoes at this point? I mean, REALLY?? It **really** bugs me that chrisk is subbing out. Unless something happened to him IRL that would prevent him from playing (and obviously I hope nothing like that happened), it’s LAME. It’s not like someone will just step into his shoes and the game will continue the way it would have, because the new person will think differently. Not only that, but how can we know that the replacement hasn’t been in the Forbidden Thread? Bleh. **chrisk** , if something happened to you, your family, etc., you have my apologies. Otherwise, LAME :mad: –FCOD ---
**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/752 "2007-04-01T01:32:57Z")
I have a bad feeling about the **Blaster Master** bandwagon that’s starting up. I’m still undecided about him, but I haven’t seen a really good reason to vote for him yet. I don’t like the way **Queuing** has been pushing for **Blaster Master** all day. His reasoning: [Post 679](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8415358&postcount=679) to **Blaster Master** [QUOTE=Queuing] Yes you are missing something. You were on our fair detective’s mistrust list. You are scum IMO, and must die. [/QUOTE] I don’t like this logic. **Menocchio** was the obvious breadcrumb, and it’s why **CaerieD** was killed. **Queuing** would have us distrust the only breadcrumb the Detective was able to leave, and at the same time start up a bandwagon and maybe lynch a civilian. Reviewing **Queuing’s** posts from yesterday I see that he defended **chrisk** : [Post 304](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8405976&postcount=304) > [@Queuing](#): > > A brave move by **Chrisk**. My feelings are we strike both **Chrisk** and **Enfant Terrible** of the list of people to kill at the moment. And then lists Chrisk as trusted: [Post 327](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8406283&postcount=327) > [@Queuing](#): > > Trust: **Pleonast** , **Chrisk** He continues defending **chrisk** today in [post 687](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8415390&postcount=687). I still think **chrisk** is scum, even more so since he decided to leave after getting called out. I think he figured it was game over for him since he had no solid defense, so why keep playing. If **chrisk** is scum, **Queuing’s** defense of him is rather suspicious all by itself. Vote Queuing. On preview, I see **StarvingButStrong** has the same idea about **Queuing**. ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/753 "2007-04-01T01:33:15Z")
[QUOTE=Aguecheek] I _do not_ want to start anything and I’m not trying to imply anything…but could you elaborate on how you came to that conclusion, or is it just from what he’s posted here? It seems that way, but I’m just curious. I agree on :mad: if it’s the latter. [/QUOTE] It is absolutely on what he posted here! I have no other reference,he just seemed to give up. Which leads me to think he is town. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/754 "2007-04-01T01:38:28Z")
I have the vote counts as follows: Blaster Master - 4 (Gadarene, hocow, pimaspinner, Queueing) chrisk - 4 (Arizona Teach, Flying Cow Of Doom, Lakai, Pygmy Runner) Pleonast - 4 (Fern Forest, Kat, MadTheSwine, Suburban Plankton) Queueing - 2 (StarvingButStrong, zuma) brewha - 1 (MonkeyMensch) Flying Cow Of Doom - 1 (Fretful Porcupine) Gadarene - 1 (chrisk) nesta - 1 (sturmhauke) **NAF1138** seems to have counted my vote for \*\*Pleonast \*\*backwards, and done the same with **pimaspinner** ’s vote against **Blaster Master**. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/755 "2007-04-01T01:43:05Z")
[QUOTE=Suburban Plankton] I have the vote counts as follows: Blaster Master - 4 (Gadarene, hocow, pimaspinner, Queueing) chrisk - 4 (Arizona Teach, Flying Cow Of Doom, Lakai, Pygmy Runner) Pleonast - 4 (Fern Forest, Kat, MadTheSwine, Suburban Plankton) Queueing - 2 (StarvingButStrong, zuma) brewha - 1 (MonkeyMensch) Flying Cow Of Doom - 1 (Fretful Porcupine) Gadarene - 1 (chrisk) nesta - 1 (sturmhauke) **NAF1138** seems to have counted my vote for \*\*Pleonast \*\*backwards, and done the same with **pimaspinner** ’s vote against **Blaster Master**. [/QUOTE] Add one more vote for \*\*Queueing \*\*(by \*\*nesta \*\*in post 752), that I failed to catch on preview. If we keep going at this pace, I’m going to have to ask work for a leave of absence. ---
**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/756 "2007-04-01T01:46:11Z")
[QUOTE=FlyingCowOfDoom] It **really** bugs me that chrisk is subbing out. Unless something happened to him IRL that would prevent him from playing (and obviously I hope nothing like that happened), it’s LAME. It’s not like someone will just step into his shoes and the game will continue the way it would have, because the new person will think differently. Not only that, but how can we know that the replacement hasn’t been in the Forbidden Thread? [/QUOTE] Well we also have the option of a game suicide. But I would rather not, hopefully JSexton who offered to sub long ago has resisted the lure of the forbidden thread in anticipation of this. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/757 "2007-04-01T01:58:45Z")
[QUOTE=Fern Forest] Well we also have the option of a game suicide. But I would rather not, hopefully JSexton who offered to sub long ago has resisted the lure of the forbidden thread in anticipation of this. [/QUOTE] He hasn’t posted in it. ---
**Author:** ![Aguecheek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@Aguecheek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aguecheek)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/758 "2007-04-01T01:58:49Z")
[QUOTE=MadTheSwine] It is absolutely on what he posted here! I have no other reference,he just seemed to give up. [/QUOTE] Thanks, and to **Rysto** and **FlyingCowOfDoom** as well. I’d seen the post, but was wondering if I’d missed an official “I’m outta here” somewhere. Hrmph. ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/759 "2007-04-01T02:07:13Z")
[QUOTE=Fern Forest] Well we also have the option of a game suicide. But I would rather not, hopefully JSexton who offered to sub long ago has resisted the lure of the forbidden thread in anticipation of this. [/QUOTE] Yeah.I dread a subbed in player having read the thread,that said,I am going to bed. ---
**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/760 "2007-04-01T02:16:15Z")
As an observer in the last game I read that forbidden thread and there was strategizing but I can’t recall being told anything outright. \*\*Menocchio \*\*was very coy about who the wolves were and what their plans were. But we’ll see. Shame. But really people you are going to get lynched. If you play this game more then a few times it will happen. Your job is to post enough helpful stuff so that when you get killed and we finally know who you truely were we can now look at your posts find understanding. … Damn, I wanted to work in a Moody Blues quote there but can’t seem to fit it in. Especially in this game since we’ve lost our detective and I’m not to sure how effective the beat cops will be. Of course it’s far far better if we kill mafia everytime but that ain’t gonna happen. Make yourselves valuable even when you die. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565.md?page=37) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565.md?page=39)