# Werewolf a game Part 2 (this time with MAFIA!)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 26, 2007, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565 "2007-03-26T16:47:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 44

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/861 "2007-04-01T21:28:35Z")

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[QUOTE=hocow]  
You want to lynch me “just to see what happens”? :dubious:

What are you expecting to happen? I still don’t understand what I’m doing do set off your and **Blaster Master** ’s FOS. But so far, it’s only the two of you who seem out to get me. That is suspicious to _me_. I’m beginning to think the two of you are in cahoots somehow. For now, I’ll stick to my original vote, but I’m keeping my eye on you as well.  
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Well, y’know, I could want to _vote_ for you just to see what happens. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/862 "2007-04-01T21:36:27Z")

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[QUOTE=kivvik]  
… we have a lychee …  
[/QUOTE]

I hope not, I don’t really like lychee.

I’ll repeat my thought that **Blaster Master** and \*\*pimaspinner \*\*are probably on opposite sides.

Anybody want to update the vote? I have a cat on my lap and can’t type well.

P.S. This is not a prissy white cat like Blofeld had so don’t go getting any ideas.

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**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/863 "2007-04-01T21:37:41Z")

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[QUOTE=kivvik]  
We just need to come to a general consensus on whether we wish to start forcing confession/defense posts in order to drag information out of people…  
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Oh, and yes. Please.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/864 "2007-04-01T21:49:58Z")

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[QUOTE=FlyingCowOfDoom]  
You flipped Malacandra and hocow. Malacandra voted for hocow, hocow voted for Blaster Master.

–FCOD  
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DAMN! I will get this whole vote counting thing right. I am going to redo how I do my vote spreadsheet.

Also, \*\*JSexton \*\* will be taking over for Chrisk. But give him a day or two to catch up before he jumps into the game.

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**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/865 "2007-04-01T21:55:44Z")

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From the way **JSexton** payed the last game, lets hope chrisk wasn’t mafia.

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**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/866 "2007-04-01T21:56:09Z")

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[QUOTE=MadTheSwine]  
\<snip\>  
I think these 4 goons need to be looked at,along with **pimaspinner** who defends all 4 of them in post 847.

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Quoting my own post here:

[QUOTE=pimaspinner]  
\*\*glee \*\* – no alarms so far.  
\*\*Winston \*\* \*\*Smith \*\* – other than casting the 10th vote for **Enfant** , I don’t find anything nefarious with **Winston**.  
\*\*Pygmy \*\* \*\*Rugger \*\* – don’t see any suspicious behavior  
\*\*Storyteller0910 \*\* – not a lot of posts to go on, no sirens here.

And just because someone hasn’t raised my suspicions, doesn’t mean I trust them.  
[/QUOTE]

I listed what I thought about every player in the game. Lots of others haven’t pinged on my radar yet. I would hardly call that a defense. I mildly defended **Winston** in my analysis of\*\* Lakai \*\* when I said that I didn’t think that he knew that his vote would immediately drop the hammer for the lynch.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/867 "2007-04-01T22:00:17Z")

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(1) Autolycus (Menocchio)  
(4) Blaster Master (Queuing, brewha, hocow, pimaspinna)  
(1) brewha (Monkey Mench)  
(4) Chrisk/Jsexton (Winston Smith, FCoD, Pygmy Rugger, ArizonaTeach)  
(1) Gadarene (Chrisk/Jsexton)  
(1) hocow (Malacandra)  
(7) Pleonast (Lakai, Kat, Suburban Plankton, Fern Forest, Fretful Porpentine, Gadarene)  
(2) Pygmy Rugger (zuma, MadTheSwine)  
(3) Queuing (StarvingButStrong, nesta, Kivvik)  
(1) Rysto (sturmhauke)  
I am listing JSexton with chrisk for now until he comes in and changes the vote and/or votes are taken off of him.

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**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/868 "2007-04-01T22:05:44Z")

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**storyteller0910** , your point about **CaerieD** is taken. It does make sense that she would investigate a former player on the first night. It still doesn’t change my mind about **Blaster Master**. He seems to be running the show with the sheer number of posts making him seem trustworthy.

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**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/869 "2007-04-01T22:06:02Z")

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[QUOTE=MadTheSwine]  
Those three are \*\*glee,Winston Smith \*\* and **storyteller0910**.

I reviewed the thread starting at page 7.  
The only one that said anything like he might be away was **storyteller0910** and on top of that didn’t really say he was going to be away,just not able to add in depth analysis(Post 590).

**storyteller0910** and my beloved **Winston Smith** both voted for **Enfant**.

\*\*Winston \*\* trusts **storyteller** in post 457

The point is… **Pygmy** got his threads confused and posted things here that were said in the Mafia thread.

I think these 4 goons need to be looked at,along with **pimaspinner** who defends all 4 of them in post 847.

Unvote Pleonast

Vote Pygmy Rugger  
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I checked Winston’s and Glee’s posts and I did not see them say anything like this.

**Pygmy Rugger** , you should explain yourself.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/870 "2007-04-01T22:10:30Z")

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[QUOTE=NAF1138]  
(1) Autolycus (Menocchio)  
(4) Blaster Master (Queuing, brewha, hocow, pimaspinna)  
(1) brewha (Monkey Mench)  
(4) Chrisk/Jsexton (Winston Smith, FCoD, Pygmy Rugger, ArizonaTeach)  
(1) Gadarene (Chrisk/Jsexton)  
(1) hocow (Malacandra)  
(7) Pleonast (Lakai, Kat, Suburban Plankton, Fern Forest, Fretful Porpentine, Gadarene)  
(2) Pygmy Rugger (zuma, MadTheSwine)  
(3) Queuing (StarvingButStrong, nesta, Kivvik)  
(1) Rysto (sturmhauke)  
I am listing JSexton with chrisk for now until he comes in and changes the vote and/or votes are taken off of him.  
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I only see six votes for **Pleoanst**.

\*\*Winston \*\* and **Pygmy** both are voting for **chrisk**

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**Author:** ![FlyingCowOfDoom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyingcowofdoom/32/21776_2.png) [@FlyingCowOfDoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingCowOfDoom)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/871 "2007-04-01T22:18:40Z")

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[QUOTE=MadTheSwine]  
I only see six votes for **Pleoanst**.

\*\*Winston \*\* and **Pygmy** both are voting for **chrisk**  
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People voting for Pleonast: Fern Forest, Fretful Porpentine, Gadarene, Kat, Lakai, Suburban Plankton (6).

**Pygmy** , that comment is WAY more suspicious than chrisk’s actions. Until you can explain yourself, I’m going to unvote chrisk, vote Pygmy Rugger.

–FCOD

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/872 "2007-04-01T22:23:40Z")

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Okay, best wishes for a good game to all, including **JSexton.**

There wasn’t any one single and dramatic cause that made it completely impossible for me to continue, like a serious injury in the family or a job transfer to Somalia, but I’m grateful to our moderator **NAF1138** for arranging things so smoothly. For anyone who’s curious about my reasons for leaving, they basically boil down to two:

- I wasn’t enjoying playing, largely because I was starting to feel very anxious over the perception that I was playing poorly and seemingly unable to convey anything at all in a way that was clear and inspired any kind of trust.

- The game has been moving quickly, generating a LOT of activity, and requiring a lot of time to keep up with, as I think everybody in it has probably noticed. The more I tried to come to terms with that, the more I kept coming up against the realization that this is a time that I actually want to be doping _less_, not more - and devoting more time and energy to other things like my job, writing, and spending time with family.

- Hi, Don Opal!  
And with that… I bid you adieu.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/873 "2007-04-01T22:26:55Z")

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PS: Please accept my apologies for noy being able to foresee any of the factors that left me feeling unable to continue **before** the game started.

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**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/874 "2007-04-01T22:29:35Z")

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Six votes for Pleonast (Lakai, Kat, Suburban Plankton, Fern Forest, Fretful Porpentine, Gadarene)

It looks like MadTheSwine’s vote was removed but the count wasn’t changed. Well we do make it hard for him.

A request. When you create a hyperlink it’s often colored blue, in fact I believe it’s the default color. Please don’t use people’s names as the link. Rather use [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=8418394) or [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=8418394). Thank you.

```auto
So long chrisk.
```

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/875 "2007-04-01T22:30:56Z")

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[QUOTE=chrisk]  
Okay, best wishes for a good game to all, including **JSexton.**

There wasn’t any one single and dramatic cause that made it completely impossible for me to continue, like a serious injury in the family or a job transfer to Somalia, but I’m grateful to our moderator **NAF1138** for arranging things so smoothly. For anyone who’s curious about my reasons for leaving, they basically boil down to two:

- I wasn’t enjoying playing, largely because I was starting to feel very anxious over the perception that I was playing poorly and seemingly unable to convey anything at all in a way that was clear and inspired any kind of trust.

- The game has been moving quickly, generating a LOT of activity, and requiring a lot of time to keep up with, as I think everybody in it has probably noticed. The more I tried to come to terms with that, the more I kept coming up against the realization that this is a time that I actually want to be doping _less_, not more - and devoting more time and energy to other things like my job, writing, and spending time with family.

- Hi, Don Opal!  
And with that… I bid you adieu.  
[/QUOTE]

Then don’t join the game.You copped out and hurt the game. :mad:

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**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/876 "2007-04-01T22:36:38Z")

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[QUOTE=MadTheSwine]  
Then don’t join the game.You copped out and hurt the game. :mad:  
[/QUOTE]

Let it go, it’s only a game. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/877 "2007-04-01T22:36:46Z")

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[QUOTE=MadTheSwine]  
Then don’t join the game.You copped out and hurt the game. :mad:  
[/QUOTE]

What’s this game people’s is talkin’ bout? I lives here. Y’alls a buncha loons.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/878 "2007-04-01T22:41:57Z")

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[QUOTE=Lakai]  
Let it go, it’s only a game. 🙂  
[/QUOTE]

Ok..sorry. Best of luck chrisk.

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**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/879 "2007-04-01T22:45:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Autolycus]  
Y’alls a buncha loons.  
[/QUOTE]

Hey, who told?! 😃

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2007, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/880 "2007-04-01T22:46:39Z")

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OK, on the off chance that my reasoning above appealed to everyone, I went and did what I said I would do before; I compiled a list of all the people who have voted for **sturmhauke,** , **chrisk** , or **Autolycus**. This list follows. I make no attempt to pretend that it is definitive; reading through this thread looking for votes has made my head hurt.

VOTED FOR STURMHAUKE  
Queuing  
Menocchio – jumped (to Queuing)  
Fern Forest  
Aguecheek  
CaerieD

VOTED FOR CHRISK  
MadtheSwine  
Rysto  
FCOD  
Pygmy Rugger  
ArizonaTeach  
Kat - unvoted  
Lakai  
Winston Smith

VOTED FOR AUTOLYCUS  
Gadarene - jumped  
FCOD  
Malacandra - jumped  
glee  
Enfant Terrible  
chrisk  
Menocchio

Only two people appear on more than one of these lists: **Mennocchio** and **FCOD**. Of those two, **Mennocchio** was probably cleared by our detective (unless he is the Godfather, in which case we’re a special kind of screwed, but what are the odds?). **FCOD** also voted for **Enfant Terrible**.

I’m not in love with the reasoning behind all this, because it relies on the assumption that **sturm,** , **Auto** , and **chrisk** are all townies of one flavor or another. All the same, in the interest of keeping an eye on _everyone_, and not just those two or three who happen to be at the head of the suspicion parade for this particular day, I’m going to -

vote FlyingCowofDoom

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