# Werewolf a game Part 2 (this time with MAFIA!) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 26, 2007, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565 "2007-03-26T16:47:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 47
**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/921 "2007-04-02T07:13:59Z")
_Glances over **Pygmy** ’s posts_ OK ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/922 "2007-04-02T07:25:33Z")
_blinks_ What does the Family Feud thread have to do with this one? Are you saying you might have gotten a few threads mixed up? ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/923 "2007-04-02T07:35:43Z")
[QUOTE=nesta] My question to you **Queuing** is do you still think **Blaster Master** was **CaerieD’s** breadcrumb? If so, can you defend that? If you still want to cast doubt that **Menocchio** was the breadcrumb but don’t have a really good reason I like my vote. [/QUOTE] You’ve done a better job laying out the suspiciousness of his reasoning than I did. Further, I want to add that while \*\*Queuing \*\* didn’t explicitly say that **CaerieD** ’s distrust of me was her breadcrumb, **Gadarene** [did](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8415389&postcount=686). I strongly suspect both are scum, and at this point would be perfectly happy to vote to lynch either of them. I would also suspect that if one of them is lynched today and shows up as scum, because they’re both using the same horrific reasoning, the other won’t live through the night. ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/924 "2007-04-02T07:38:04Z")
[QUOTE=Lakai] _blinks_ What does the Family Feud thread have to do with this one? Are you saying you might have gotten a few threads mixed up? [/QUOTE] No, I’m saying that quite a few people, IRL and on the boards, have said they were going to be gone for the weekend, or have let me know they’ve just gotten back. Since a bunch of people on the SDMB and a bunch of people IRL were going to be gone for the weekend, I figured those three happened to be three that were gone for a day or two and had said something to that effect beforehand. ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/925 "2007-04-02T07:39:59Z")
[QUOTE=Blaster Master] You’ve done a better job laying out the suspiciousness of his reasoning than I did. Further, I want to add that while \*\*Queuing \*\* didn’t explicitly say that **CaerieD** ’s distrust of me was her breadcrumb, **Gadarene** [did in post #686](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8415389&postcount=686). I strongly suspect both are scum, and at this point would be perfectly happy to vote to lynch either of them. I would also suspect that if one of them is lynched today and shows up as scum, because they’re both using the same horrific reasoning, the other won’t live through the night. [/QUOTE] Oops, I didn’t make the link stick out very well. In staying with the rules, I won’t edit the post directly, so above is more like what I wanted it to look like. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/926 "2007-04-02T07:53:14Z")
First, this might have been covered earlier, but can I check with NAF1138: The rules say the SK wins if the game ends with the SK still playing, right? So if there are 10 Mafia, 9 Citizens and the SK left, the game ends because there are as many Mafia as Town. But the Mafia lose because the SK is still playing, yes? If that’s true, could the Mafia please stop killing Citizens when the count is close! Next, thanks to Lakai for summarising CaerieD’s posts. Unfortunately she made a mistake in post 326 by only naming two people in her trust / mistrust list and thus made herself a likely bet for the Detective. And I am certain that Menocchio = Town was her tell. Now given that only two people were killed that night, I think both the Mafia AND the SK went for CaerieD (since the Detective is by far the greatest danger to both of them). Just in case Autolycus is the Vig :eek: or the SK :smack: , could both please target him? [quote=Suburban plankton] One thing I did notice is that Autolycus suddenly seems to be all over the place, and actually has something to say, if I’m translating his posts properly. They do add a bit of color to the proceedings. Autolycus Unnnghhh… I’ve got a hangover the size of Trump’s ego. People kept on buying for me, not that I blame them. What’s this? Three people dead? Eh, my brother said they all had it coming to them. Me and my brother dont see eye to eye too much, but we respect each other and that’s that. If you cant trust your family, who can you is what I’s say. Who do I think axed ‘em? I dunno, but I got my eye on that Blaster Master. If he’s as evil as his namesake, then he’d have no problem pulling the trigger. What’s this game people’s is talkin’ bout? I lives here. Y’alls a buncha loons. Quote Only a stupid mobster would talk like a mobster, see? You would think that, right. But he would know that you think you know that, see? So a smart mobster would pretend to talk like a mobster so that everyone would think he was actually only pretending to be a mobster, see? But them’s not the only options. He could only be pretending to be a smart mobster that’s pretending to talk like a mobster to fool people into thinking he’s not a mobster, but he actually is a mobster pretending to engage everyone in some clever double talk, see? Dont forget he could actually be stupid and blowing his cover, ya never knows. For all we’s know, he could be just some dumb kid muckin’ up the works. While you’re thinkins that over, I gotta take a trip to the docks and meet my friend Vinnie. He’s got a nice catch of fish comin’ in thats needs inspectins’ quote I just gots back from my friend Vinny at the dock helpin’ ‘im investigate his shipment of tuna, see if anything smells fishy about it, and ya knows, it’s likes I’s always say: ya gotta trust your guts. Course, it goes withouts sayin that somethin stinks in this here town. But hey, I’m stayins even ifs it means the death of me. If anyones needs me, I’ll be at The Bearded Clam nursin’ a Bloody Mary. quote Barkeep, another bloody mary please. I gots this big headache and gotta goes to work soon and these loud peoples wont stop yammerin’ about some crime problem. I’ms as sad as anyones that peoples were murdered, but every towns has crime right, so what’s the big fat hairy deal? If ya asks me, everyone should minds their own business. quote What’s you talkin about blue-face? I always been talkin’ like this. You thinks I’m a mafia, wells that’s your own business. Mama always saids to mind your own business. Ya know, this heres my hometown. I’s been part of this god-forsaken rat-hole since befores you left yer mama’s blood box. You think this is an act? I’d shows you an act, and theres wont be an encore, but what the fuck, I’m willins to let by-gones be’s by-gones. A punk likes you 'aint worth my time. quote Cazzata! I’s wakes up after a hard days work, and whats do I’s see? A fuckin lynch mob at my doorstep. Mama always saids I weres a popular boy… Heys youz guys, I gots nothings to explain. I 'aint never killed nobodys. Infischiarsi! Believe whats ya want, dont bothers me none, I’s just wish youz didnt wake me up so violent-like, ya bunch of ceffos. quote Makes me tough guy. I ‘aint give a shit about no “mafia” see? Peoples die every day, dont mean it mean somethin’ You’s dont like it, then maybes you dont belong in this town. Ya know, ya seem suspicious to me, but I’ms a non-violent type. So leaves me the fuck alone, capiche? quote Dont strains too many brain cells on my account quote It’s too’s quiet if ya asks me. Giving me’s the willies, that’s what it’s doin’ Ya know, this town’s rotten, and it ‘aint the veggietables. quote Ughs, I hads me a hard day’s night yesterday. A killa 12 hour shift thens a night on the town with me’s buds. Its was fun and shit, but on the way home I gots me into a fistfight! Me versus six guys. Got my ass handed to me, sads to say. Too much pasta and nots enough exercise, me mom always says. Oh well, right. I gots my pulse so no big whoopy. More murders in this town, go fig eh? This fuckin’ town gets worse by the day. Pretty soons it coulds be all mafia, so then what’ll ‘ey do, rob and murders each otha? A shitty situation for everyones is what I say. I hear a lynch mob outside my window last night, fuckin’ woke me up and everythin’ If the town’s gonna start murderins people too, then this damn place reallys has lost it They kepts chantin’ over and over, “kill the mafia,” “kill the mafia” but the poor bum they killed wasn’t even in the god damn mafia. Buncha maroons. Anyways, word in town is that everyone wants to know who is clean and who aint’ Peoples been comin up to me and askin my opinion. I’s tell ‘em to screw ‘emself. Shit, I knows too well tha proverb: “the neck thats sticks out gets chopped off” All I’m gonna says is that Blaster Master and Chrisk give me the creepers. You wants an esplanation, youz better be buyin’ a lotta booze. haha quote That’s a wicked scummy things to say. What, you’z too chicken to off me ya’self? You got some guts, askin’ somebody to do you’z dirty works. I dont knows nothin’ ‘bout that Pleonast bum, but if ya gonna targets me, at least spell my fuckin’ name right, ok? quote I’s begs to differ. Maybe I ‘aint some pro at analyzations like youz guys, but I’ms contributin’ lately like. I’s admit math aint my style, see, but I’m helpin’ in my own way. Not me’s fault if ya is too dumb to recogsnize it. If ya asks me, I think you’re just tryin’ to off me and save the mafia the pleasure. Ands besides, I still thinks a man should do 'im owns dirty work too. Kids these days gots no sense of ethic like stuff. Geez I got me’s a bad feeling about tonight. Anyone’s sellin’ life insurance? Quote Shit’s balls, I hopes this dudes on my side! Quote Watch outs for tha lynch mob too. You aint too populars lately-like. Quote ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/927 "2007-04-02T08:00:13Z")
Sorry about any incoherence in the last post - I submitted before previewing, then remembered we’re not allowed to edit. :smack: Actually it’s not so bad - I was going to put each Autolychus post in quotes, but simply put the word quote after each one. As you see, he’s stuck in loads of posts, packed full of … nothing. If all 38 players had done that, how long would it take to reread the thread? ---
**Author:** ![kivvik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/cdc98d/32.png) [@kivvik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kivvik)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/928 "2007-04-02T08:06:11Z")
[QUOTE=glee] Sorry about any incoherence in the last post - I submitted before previewing, then remembered we’re not allowed to edit. :smack: Actually it’s not so bad - I was going to put each Autolychus post in quotes, but simply put the word quote after each one. As you see, he’s stuck in loads of posts, packed full of … nothing. If all 38 players had done that, how long would it take to reread the thread? [/QUOTE] Or a bunch of posts with clues hidden in roleplaying form. Diamonds(well, not -that- good) aren’t hidden in plain sight, you know? Gotta go through a lot of dirt to get to them. I think he’s dropped a few hints here and there, although some of his posts are certainly just fluff. I’m reading his antics and hints two ways though, and can’t get a handle on which one I think is more likely. Or if I’m even on the right track. I hesitantly say that he is harmless to us, possibly beneficial. Or bonkers, or as mafia as his lingo. It’s hard enough for me to read real life conversations, let alone text filtered through role playing. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/929 "2007-04-02T08:10:05Z")
[QUOTE=glee] Sorry about any incoherence in the last post - I submitted before previewing, then remembered we’re not allowed to edit. :smack: Actually it’s not so bad - I was going to put each Autolychus post in quotes, but simply put the word quote after each one. As you see, he’s stuck in loads of posts, packed full of … nothing. If all 38 players had done that, how long would it take to reread the thread? [/QUOTE] Ya missed the part where’s I voted, and some others where I brokes my code and opened my trap about who’s I think is who. But heys, whateva makes you sleep well at night. I’ds keep one eye open though, got it? Speaking of sleep and stuff, I’m agonna gets some shuteye. I got work and shit, I donts have the time to be goin’ and lynchin’ people like most this town’s doin lately. Fuckin’ crazy shit ins my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/930 "2007-04-02T08:26:33Z")
He did vote for \*\*Menocchio \*\*after \*\*Menocchio \*\*voted for him. Although \*\*Menocchio \*\*has since unvoted him. Pleonast - 6 (Fern Forest, Fretful Porpentine, Gadarene, Kat, Lakai, Suburban Plankton) Blaster Master - 4 (brewha, hocow, pimaspinner, Queuing) Pygmy Rugger - 4 (FlyingCowOfDoom, MadTheSwine, Menocchio, Zuma) chrisk/JSexton - 3 (glee, Pygmy Rugger, Winston Smith) Queuing - 3 (kivvik, nesta, StarvingButStrong) Menocchio - 1 (Autolycus) hocow - 1 (Malacandra) brewha - 1 (MonkeyMensch) Rysto - 1 (sturmhauke) I think we need **sturmhauke, MonkeyMensch, Malacandra** and **Autolycus** to reevaluate who they’re voting for. Unless \*\*JSexton \*\*comes backwith a stunning revelation how about **Pleonast, Pygmy Rugger, Blaster Master** and **Queuing** for the finals. I again suggest we give \*\*JSexton \*\*a 24 hour window of death free game play since he did go to the trouble of catching up. This means you too Mafia. We should have enough people that we suspect that it wont actually make a difference whether he dies with the next 24h game cycle or the one after. That would mean that **glee, Pygmy Rugger** and **Winston Smith** need to come up with new votes as well. And we still need votes from **Aguecheek, ArizonaTeach, Blaster Master, Pleonast, Rysto, smitty** and **Storyteller0910**. And we’ll certainly get **JSexton** ’s vote tomorrow. I’m not saying anyone has to hurry up just noting who’s doing what at this moment. That’s my thinking. I’m heading to bed and expect a hundred posts to read before work when I get up. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/931 "2007-04-02T08:29:37Z")
[QUOTE=kivvik] I think he’s dropped a few hints here and there, although some of his posts are certainly just fluff. I’m reading his antics and hints two ways though, and can’t get a handle on which one I think is more likely. Or if I’m even on the right track. [/QUOTE] A few hints? He’s been beating us over the head with his “I’m mob!” for a while. Heck, in his last post he just said he was against lynches. Again, vig, please handle the Autolycus situation. And the SK, pretty please. ---
**Author:** ![kivvik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/cdc98d/32.png) [@kivvik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kivvik)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/932 "2007-04-02T09:23:51Z")
[QUOTE=zuma] A few hints? He’s been beating us over the head with his “I’m mob!” for a while. Heck, in his last post he just said he was against lynches. Again, vig, please handle the Autolycus situation. And the SK, pretty please. [/QUOTE] Speaking like a mobster does not mean one is a mobster. I meant hints as to other things, more game related. He could still be a mobster, but it’s not my read of him. [413](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8418046&postcount=840) , [414](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8408219&postcount=414) and [840](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8418046&postcount=840) . Those are the ones where I _think_ there might be some hints. How you read them is up to you. And if there turn out to be no hints, then dang it, I’m gonna feel so stupid. (On the bright side, I did figure out how to put in links to things in the process of this post.) ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/933 "2007-04-02T10:03:12Z")
Well, like I said before, if he had the town’s best interest at heart we would not have to parse all his hints and what not. He’s either town crapping on the game, or scum playing a weird game. I think it’s the latter. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/934 "2007-04-02T12:06:46Z")
Boy this is difficult pouring through all this info. I think future days will be a bit easier once identities are revealed and alignments become clearer. I’m thinking Queuing and Chrisk/JSexton are on the same side, and they’re on the wrong one. Pimaspinner and his/her constant questioning of the obvious Menocchio breadcrumb is also bothering me. Telling posts upon my re-read: Day 2 dawns and Rysto posts his rather damning evidence against chrisk/JSexton in [589](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8414145&postcount=589) chrisk posts a weak response in [597](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8414234&postcount=597), claiming that this was due to his being over-excited on day 1. On the re-read, he also tried to defend his night-time vote against the cooling-off period: [QUOTE=chrisk] Okay, **Rysto** When it came to the cooling down period… I guess it came down as ‘bitten then shy’. I felt bad over having blurted out a foolish scheme so quickly, so I was hesitating before chiming in on suggesting a rule change. Trying to show some caution. Oh well. [/QUOTE] If he was so shy about it, why chime in at all? Especially with everyone else overwhelmingly in favor of it? Queuing, who has been defending and trusting chrisk all this time, comes in after the Rysto charge against chrisk, keeps him on his trust lists, and maintains his vote on blaster master in [599](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8414282&postcount=599). I’d have at least taken chrisk off the trust list at that point. Pimaspinner makes a rather weird attack on FCOD and starts what will become a continuing denial that Menocchio was the breadcrumb in [629](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8414635&postcount=629).. Queuing comes in on [687](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8415390&postcount=687) stoking the blaster master fires and again stating his trust of chrisk, a regular feature in his posting history. Blaster Master is in full defense mode right now, and it’s starting to be suggested that he was the actual breadcrumb. Pima again chirps that he/she does not think Menocchio was the bc. [701](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8415603&postcount=701) Pimaspinner again puts forward the dubious argument that Blaster Master is the true breadcrumb in [712](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8415741&postcount=712) and [723](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8415961&postcount=723). I’ve repeated some of Nesta’s analysis, and I’m tending to agree with a lot of Nesta’s conclusions. Until tonight’s read Pimaspinner had not really been showing up on my radar, but now I think Pimaspinner, along with Queuing and chrisk/JSexton are a mafia axis of evil trying to steer the bandwagon towards Blaster Master and others, using lame reasoning such as “CaerieD’s true breadcrumb wasn’t Menocchio it was Blaster Master” to steer suspicion away from chrisk/JSexton and onto whoever they think they can make it stick to. Blaster Master has been a good choice for them as he posts a lot and made a few mis-steps, but none the size of chrisk/JSexton’s. I’m all for getting rid of any of these three, but since I’ve been in the habit of voting Queuing (and I still think Queuing’s defense of his fishing for experience on day one was weak — trying to catch people in a lie about how much experience they have?), his continual defense of chrisk who attracted attention on day one and REALLY attracted attention on day 2 lead me to Unvote: Pygmy Rugger Vote: Queuing ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/935 "2007-04-02T12:22:58Z")
Here’s pimaspinner in [890](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8418578&postcount=890) trying to keep chrisk/JSexton away from the lynch, and attacking glee: [QUOTE=pimaspinner] Um, not real sure how you figure we’ll get information from lynching **chrisk/jsexton**. **chrisk** hasn’t posted anything that I think we would find useful, and **jsexton** hasn’t posted anything yet. I’m sure he is about ears deep in the thread though. This is highly suspicious, and makes you scum in my eyes now. I don’t think I need to change my vote now…we can lynch you soon enough. [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/936 "2007-04-02T12:30:41Z")
[QUOTE=Fern Forest] He did vote for \*\*Menocchio \*\*after \*\*Menocchio \*\*voted for him. Although \*\*Menocchio \*\*has since unvoted him. Pleonast - 6 (Fern Forest, Fretful Porpentine, Gadarene, Kat, Lakai, Suburban Plankton) Blaster Master - 4 (brewha, hocow, pimaspinner, Queuing) Pygmy Rugger - 4 (FlyingCowOfDoom, MadTheSwine, Menocchio, Zuma) chrisk/JSexton - 3 (glee, Pygmy Rugger, Winston Smith) Queuing - 3 (kivvik, nesta, StarvingButStrong) Menocchio - 1 (Autolycus) hocow - 1 (Malacandra) brewha - 1 (MonkeyMensch) Rysto - 1 (sturmhauke) I think we need **sturmhauke, MonkeyMensch, Malacandra** and **Autolycus** to reevaluate who they’re voting for. Unless \*\*JSexton \*\*comes backwith a stunning revelation how about **Pleonast, Pygmy Rugger, Blaster Master** and **Queuing** for the finals. I again suggest we give \*\*JSexton \*\*a 24 hour window of death free game play since he did go to the trouble of catching up. This means you too Mafia. We should have enough people that we suspect that it wont actually make a difference whether he dies with the next 24h game cycle or the one after. That would mean that **glee, Pygmy Rugger** and **Winston Smith** need to come up with new votes as well. And we still need votes from **Aguecheek, ArizonaTeach, Blaster Master, Pleonast, Rysto, smitty** and **Storyteller0910**. And we’ll certainly get **JSexton** ’s vote tomorrow. I’m not saying anyone has to hurry up just noting who’s doing what at this moment. That’s my thinking. I’m heading to bed and expect a hundred posts to read before work when I get up. [/QUOTE] I need to come up with a new vote, eh? Okay, then. Unvote **chrisk**. Vote **Fern Forest**. You talk too much. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/937 "2007-04-02T12:33:33Z")
[QUOTE=zuma] Queuing, who has been defending and trusting chrisk all this time, comes in after the Rysto charge against chrisk, keeps him on his trust lists, and maintains his vote on blaster master in [599](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8414282&postcount=599). I’d have at least taken chrisk off the trust list at that point. [/QUOTE] I mis-read post 599… Queuing just maintained his vote for blaster master after the Rysto allegations. Although he later tried to steer suspicion away from chrisk/JSexton. ---
**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/938 "2007-04-02T12:34:24Z")
Let’s try that again. Unvote **chrisk**. Vote **Fern Forest**. You talk too much. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/939 "2007-04-02T12:47:38Z")
[QUOTE=Gadarene] Okay, **storyteller9010’s** post at #854 is one of the most suspicious things I’ve read in this thread. And, having read it, I’ll say this: if **storyteller** , **Pleonast** , and **Blaster Master** are not all scum, I will eat any number of hats you care to send me. Also, welcome **JSexton**. [/QUOTE] You seem to be fairly cheerful about tossing suspicion in every conceivable direction without much actual reasoning behind it. Would you care to elucidate what about my reasoning at #854 strikes you as faulty? Because it would seem to me that you’ve changed your mind about who you think is the most _absolutely definitely_ certain to be scum about six times in two game days, and that seems… odd. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565/940 "2007-04-02T12:49:41Z")
[QUOTE=Fern Forest] He did vote for \*\*Menocchio \*\*after \*\*Menocchio \*\*voted for him. Although \*\*Menocchio \*\*has since unvoted him. Pleonast - 6 (Fern Forest, Fretful Porpentine, Gadarene, Kat, Lakai, Suburban Plankton) Blaster Master - 4 (brewha, hocow, pimaspinner, Queuing) Pygmy Rugger - 4 (FlyingCowOfDoom, MadTheSwine, Menocchio, Zuma) chrisk/JSexton - 3 (glee, Pygmy Rugger, Winston Smith) Queuing - 3 (kivvik, nesta, StarvingButStrong) Menocchio - 1 (Autolycus) hocow - 1 (Malacandra) brewha - 1 (MonkeyMensch) Rysto - 1 (sturmhauke) I think we need **sturmhauke, MonkeyMensch, Malacandra** and **Autolycus** to reevaluate who they’re voting for. Unless \*\*JSexton \*\*comes backwith a stunning revelation how about **Pleonast, Pygmy Rugger, Blaster Master** and **Queuing** for the finals. I again suggest we give \*\*JSexton \*\*a 24 hour window of death free game play since he did go to the trouble of catching up. This means you too Mafia. We should have enough people that we suspect that it wont actually make a difference whether he dies with the next 24h game cycle or the one after. That would mean that **glee, Pygmy Rugger** and **Winston Smith** need to come up with new votes as well. And we still need votes from **Aguecheek, ArizonaTeach, Blaster Master, Pleonast, Rysto, smitty** and **Storyteller0910**. And we’ll certainly get **JSexton** ’s vote tomorrow. I’m not saying anyone has to hurry up just noting who’s doing what at this moment. That’s my thinking. I’m heading to bed and expect a hundred posts to read before work when I get up. [/QUOTE] Sorry for the double post… I should read the whole thread before responding! Somehow it got missed, but I voted for **FlyingCowofDoom** a few posts upthread. If the town as a whole feels strongly that I should change my vote to one of the three leading candidates, I will consider doing so, but right now I’m happy with my reasoning and my vote. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565.md?page=46) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game-part-2-this-time-with-mafia/397565.md?page=48)