# Werewolf - a game.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 5, 2007, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997 "2007-02-05T23:04:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/381 "2007-02-20T14:39:11Z")

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[QUOTE=hocow]  
**Richard Parker** , on the other hand, seems to be trying very hard to convince us that he is a townsperson. When people lie, they tend to go overboard on details. Namely:

He is trying to nail home the point that he is a lurking townsperson, and that it would be very bad to vote for him because of this. I, however, see it as overcompensation. (That word doesn’t look right :dubious: ) I vote for Richard Parker  
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Yeah, seeing as how I made this argument earlier about **JSexton** , I probably should have been more careful about my own proclamation. But don’t lynch me, I’m not a werewolf! 😃

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/382 "2007-02-20T20:44:03Z")

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Is **Miller** gonna be replaced or strung up if he has quit?If it’s the latter, voting for him is a wasted vote.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/383 "2007-02-20T21:07:58Z")

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Hey, hey, hey! A guy forgets to shave for a coupla days, and everyone’s calling him a werewolf?! Is this town being run by the Gillette corporation, or something?

I’ll tell you what I think. I don’t trust that **JSexton** , that’s what I think. Always hanging around the church graveyard. With that shovel. You know why he does that? Burying the evidence, that’s why! Somebody check his breath: I bet it smells like **Rysto**!

**JSexton** is a werewolf!

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/384 "2007-02-20T21:12:56Z")

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[QUOTE=moonstarssun]  
:: snip ::

I’m so hungry I could eat a flock of sheep!  
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I vote for **moonstarssun**. Look here: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8249993&postcount=125](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8249993&postcount=125)

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/385 "2007-02-20T21:29:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
Hey, hey, hey! A guy forgets to shave for a coupla days, and everyone’s calling him a werewolf?! Is this town being run by the Gillette corporation, or something?

I’ll tell you what I think. I don’t trust that **JSexton** , that’s what I think. Always hanging around the church graveyard. With that shovel. You know why he does that? Burying the evidence, that’s why! Somebody check his breath: I bet it smells like **Rysto**!

**JSexton** is a werewolf!  
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Were your ears burning **Miller**?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/386 "2007-02-20T21:37:53Z")

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I’m pretty suspicious of **JSexton** myself. He’s very set on leading the mob in a single direction. As I mentioned earlier, I think he’s doing it in a way that limits the amount we’re going to learn about our fellow townsfolk. The only thing that gives me pause is that he was the first to vote for Menocchio. Still, he seems pretty friggin’ bloodthirsty, and I’m reluctant to follow his lead today.

Who else is on my radar? **Cometothedarksidewehavecookies** , for her defense of **Menocchio** (and admittedly because she voted to kill me)… **Rubystreak** , who seems to be more interested in how many times we all post than she is in what we say… **Ogre** , who looks like he’s trying to lure the seer out into the dark night… **Miller** , who’s uncharacteristically quiet in this thread.

Right now, I’m leaning toward voting for **Ogre**.

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**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/387 "2007-02-20T21:40:12Z")

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Recap of people who have been voted for most:

**Mennochio** 7  
**jsgoddess** 7  
**One And Only Wanderers** 5  
**Jsexton** 4  
**Miller** 3

These include day one and day two votes, and do not include accusations that were not made official. Unvotes have not been factored in.

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/388 "2007-02-20T21:45:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Winston Smith]  
I vote for **moonstarssun**. Look here: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8249993&postcount=125](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8249993&postcount=125)  
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_Ahem_.

:: cough ::

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**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/389 "2007-02-20T21:53:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Enginerd]  
I’m pretty suspicious of **JSexton** myself. He’s very set on leading the mob in a single direction. As I mentioned earlier, I think he’s doing it in a way that limits the amount we’re going to learn about our fellow townsfolk. The only thing that gives me pause is that he was the first to vote for Menocchio. Still, he seems pretty friggin’ bloodthirsty, and I’m reluctant to follow his lead today.

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I have to say that I echo those sentiments. Something just occured to me, **Jsexton** seemed to have little reason to choose **Mennochio** , but I’m starting to think it was a very clever ruse. **Jsexton** has played before, seems to be leading us with his experience, and is no doubt aware of some very cunning strategies. I think that he voted for **Mennochio** not to get him lynched, but to get the Seer to investigate him. The Seer, having never investigated anyone, very well might have trusted the advice of **Jsexton** because of his experience. **Mennochio** would have appeared to be a townsperson to the Seer (being the Alpha Wolf), and would have been identified as a townie if the Seer were killed and had to leave breadcrumbs. This would make the Alpha Wolf that much more safe, a sound strategy for keeping a fellow werewolf alive.

That said, I think I have to unvote Miller and vote Jsexton.

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/390 "2007-02-20T22:16:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Enginerd]  
Who else is on my radar? **Cometothedarksidewehavecookies** , for her defense of **Menocchio** (and admittedly because she voted to kill me)…

Right now, I’m leaning toward voting for **Ogre**.  
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Are you sure you’re not singling me out just because I don’t shave my legs? 😉

I happen to agree with you about Ogre, though. The whole Seer thing smells funny.

I’m voting for Ogre.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/391 "2007-02-20T22:31:51Z")

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[QUOTE=dnooman]  
I have to say that I echo those sentiments. Something just occured to me, **Jsexton** seemed to have little reason to choose **Mennochio** , but I’m starting to think it was a very clever ruse. **Jsexton** has played before, seems to be leading us with his experience, and is no doubt aware of some very cunning strategies. I think that he voted for **Mennochio** not to get him lynched, but to get the Seer to investigate him. The Seer, having never investigated anyone, very well might have trusted the advice of **Jsexton** because of his experience. **Mennochio** would have appeared to be a townsperson to the Seer (being the Alpha Wolf), and would have been identified as a townie if the Seer were killed and had to leave breadcrumbs. This would make the Alpha Wolf that much more safe, a sound strategy for keeping a fellow werewolf alive.

That said, I think I have to unvote Miller and vote Jsexton.  
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I don’t think the Seer was able to use his power the first day, was he?Frankly,I’m surprised at all the **Jsexton** suspicions.Granted, I pointed a finger at him early on,but he has convinced me otherwise.

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**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/392 "2007-02-20T22:59:13Z")

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[QUOTE=MadTheSwine]  
I don’t think the Seer was able to use his power the first day, was he?Frankly,I’m surprised at all the **Jsexton** suspicions.Granted, I pointed a finger at him early on,but he has convinced me otherwise.  
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The Seer would have used his power that night, had he/she inspected **Mennochio** because of **Jsexton’s** accusation, he/she would have been fooled. Maybe I’m way off base, I just think that it’s odd that the main bad guy was called out right away. I don’t think that anyone _knew_ he was a wolf, except his fellow wolves. So why was his name even bought up? If it was luck, it was a one in twenty shot.

Maybe I’m reading too much into it.

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**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/393 "2007-02-20T23:09:12Z")

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[QUOTE=dnooman]  
I think that he voted for **Mennochio** not to get him lynched, but to get the Seer to investigate him. The Seer, having never investigated anyone, very well might have trusted the advice of **Jsexton** because of his experience. **Mennochio** would have appeared to be a townsperson to the Seer (being the Alpha Wolf), and would have been identified as a townie if the Seer were killed and had to leave breadcrumbs.  
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Let’s assume for the moment that JSexton is a werewolf. It would be fairly risky to lay suspicion on Menocchio and hope that some townie gets lynched instead, and then hope that the Seer would investigate him and get a false townie reading. Even if Menocchio survived the first day, there were several other suspicious people the Seer might have investigated.

On the other hand, if JSexton thought Menocchio was a liability and would draw too much attention to the other werewolves, setting him up makes sense. I don’t think there’s any conclusive evidence either way.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/394 "2007-02-20T23:35:30Z")

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Ah well. What can I say to prove my innocence? There’s no pentagram on my paw - errr, hand.

Anyhoo, I’m voting **Enginerd** , because he was the first to try damage control by posting

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> I don’t think anybody actually figured it out.

Nah, it wasn’t cleverness or a plurality of suspicious evidence, it was an _accident_. Fuzzy bastard. 😛

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**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/395 "2007-02-20T23:59:29Z")

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There was reason to suspect that Menocchio was a werewolf, but there was no reason to suspect he was the Alpha. We got lucky on that account.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/396 "2007-02-21T00:57:31Z")

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[QUOTE=dnooman]  
The Seer would have used his power that night, had he/she inspected **Mennochio** because of **Jsexton’s** accusation, he/she would have been fooled. Maybe I’m way off base, I just think that it’s odd that the main bad guy was called out right away. I don’t think that anyone _knew_ he was a wolf, except his fellow wolves. So why was his name even bought up? If it was luck, it was a one in twenty shot.

Maybe I’m reading too much into it.  
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The obvious flaw in that theory is that I didn’t just cast a vote, I also rode Menocchio to lynch, several times urging more people to vote for him. Does that really sound like a good plan?

How did I know he was scum? I didn’t, not for sure. My initial vote was to get a reaction, and I didn’t see anything from him that reassured me he was town, so I kept it there. We certainly got lucky.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/397 "2007-02-21T00:58:09Z")

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[QUOTE=ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies]  
Are you sure you’re not singling me out just because I don’t shave my legs? 😉  
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I’m not likely to vote for someone simply because they don’t shave.

[Enginerd](http://i19.tinypic.com/2m4zipi.jpg) in real life.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/398 "2007-02-21T00:59:32Z")

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Aw crap! That’ll teach me to compose a post, leave for a couple of hours, and come back and submit without reading the rest of the thread.

Ogre, don’t click that link.

:smack:

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/399 "2007-02-21T01:00:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Enginerd]  
I’m pretty suspicious of **JSexton** myself. He’s very set on leading the mob in a single direction. As I mentioned earlier, I think he’s doing it in a way that limits the amount we’re going to learn about our fellow townsfolk.  
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I’m a fairly aggressive player. This is how I hunt. (for scum, obv, not sheep or townsfolk)

And I’m encouraging posting, not discouraging it. That’s how you learn about people.

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**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/400 "2007-02-21T01:24:30Z")

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[QUOTE=JSexton]  
The obvious flaw in that theory is that I didn’t just cast a vote, I also rode Menocchio to lynch, several times urging more people to vote for him. Does that really sound like a good plan?

How did I know he was scum? I didn’t, not for sure. My initial vote was to get a reaction, and I didn’t see anything from him that reassured me he was town, so I kept it there. We certainly got lucky.  
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I guess the luck explaination does fall in line with Occam’s razor. Maybe I’m getting too trigger happy. Unvote Jsexton.

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