# Werewolf - a game.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 5, 2007, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997 "2007-02-05T23:04:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/461 "2007-02-23T03:17:26Z")

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[QUOTE=sturmhauke]  
It’s neck and neck between Miller and One And Only Wanderers! Anyone want to place bets?  
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Since I voted for **Miller** , I get why he’s been targeted. What was the reasoning for **One And Only Wanderers**? Use of mafia scum lingo was one thing… anything else I should be considering but haven’t?

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/462 "2007-02-23T03:29:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Suburban Plankton]

\*\*MadTheSwine’s \*\*actions are a bit confusing. On Day 1, he voted to lynch **JSexton**. Then early on Day 2, for no apparent reason he comes out on the side of “Boss Sexton”, and the two of them start the ball rolling against One And Only Wanderers. Since I’ve already made known my feelings about JSexton, I’ll leave any further conclusions as an exercise for the reader.  
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I thought the reason was very apparent.I voted to lynch the guy that sniffed out a werewolf.I called his reasoning “BS” and “made up”.Turns out it wasn’t.So for that, he gets my trust.Sorry for the confusion.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/463 "2007-02-23T03:30:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Rubystreak]  
Since I voted for **Miller** , I get why he’s been targeted. What was the reasoning for **One And Only Wanderers**? Use of mafia scum lingo was one thing… anything else I should be considering but haven’t?  
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He was the first to cast an official vote, and was also fingered by \*\*Rysto \*\*(RIP). I believe \*\*JSexton \*\*also provided a few other reasons.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/464 "2007-02-23T03:40:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Suburban Plankton]  
Lynch **JSexton**.

I think his voting for \*\*Menocchio \*\*in Day 1 (relatively early on, by the way) was a case of misdirection that went horribly wrong. His stated reason at the time was the “third person to vote” theory, which he has yet to support. It sounds like something he threw out there just so that he could cast a vote, thinking that it was so absurd that nobody would follow him.  
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No. I’m not making it up at all. It’s a very common convention at [mafiascum.net](http://mafiascum.net), where this game is played constantly.

Also, why on earth would I, as scum, make up an absurd reason to vote for my own teammate? Explain the thinking there, because I can’t fathom how that’s a productive plan.

> [@](#):
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> As of Post 232, the voting was 4 for \*\*jgoddess \*\*and 2 for **Menocchio**. 15 posts later, when JSexton tells us all to jump on one bandwagon or another, the voting had shifted 6 to 3 in favor of Menocchio, and the end was in sight.

If I’m capable of making up reasons to vote for my scumbuddy, wouldn’t I also be capable of making up reasons to switch my vote to a townie?

> [@](#):
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> And his statement “the worst possible thing we can do is fail to lynch someone” was completely out of character for one who seems to have such knowledge of the game. He would have known that there is no way we can fail to lynch _someone_. I think this statement is a last ditch effort to try to save the Alpha Wolf from the noose.

No, just a mis-remembering of the rules for this particular game. Different games have different rules, and one of the most common was that, at deadline, you must have a majority to lynch. Merely having the most votes isn’t enough, quite often, and I was thinking that’s how this one worked. I should have gone back and checked.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/465 "2007-02-23T03:43:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Enginerd]  
Right now I see **JSexton** and **Wanderers** as two sides of the same coin.

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Can you explain what you mean here?

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/466 "2007-02-23T03:45:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Richard Parker]  
He was the first to cast an official vote, and was also fingered by \*\*Rysto \*\*(RIP). I believe \*\*JSexton \*\*also provided a few other reasons.  
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The death of Rysto was a biggie. Rysto only contributed a little bit, but a decent portion of that was attacks on Wanderers. Being first to vote doesn’t bother me, as aggression is a good thing in my book.

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**Author:** ![moonstarssun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@moonstarssun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moonstarssun)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/467 "2007-02-23T06:48:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Winston Smith]  
:: leers ::

Hey, baby. 😉

Oops. Uh, sorry. :smack:  
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So you wanna hook up if they don’t hang me?

:rolleyes:

See if I sit with you in the pub next time around.

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/468 "2007-02-23T07:08:11Z")

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Vote count please. I need to know if it’s role claim time.

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/469 "2007-02-23T07:29:57Z")

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As requested (and hopefully with no mistakes this time);

One and Only Wanderers - 6 Votes (JSexton, MadTheSwine, Richard Parker, Miller, dnooman, unfinished symphony).

Miller - 5 Votes (jsgoddess, Rubystreak, moonstarssun, One and Only Wanderers, Enginerd).

moonstarssun - 2 Votes (Winston Smith, Kat)

JSexton - 2 Votes (Suburban Plankton, Captain Carrot)

Richard Parker - 1 Vote (hocow)

Ogre - 1 Vote (ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)

Enginerd - 1 Vote (Ogre)

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/470 "2007-02-23T07:32:08Z")

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do people want a role claim out of me, or is it too early?

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**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/471 "2007-02-23T08:14:07Z")

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[QUOTE=One And Only Wanderers]  
do people want a role claim out of me, or is it too early?  
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You’ll have to decide for yourself, and then see if we believe you.

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/472 "2007-02-23T08:21:01Z")

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What I’m saying is that I’m happy to role claim, but only if that is what the group wants.

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/473 "2007-02-23T08:30:55Z")

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[QUOTE=One And Only Wanderers]  
What I’m saying is that I’m happy to role claim, but only if that is what the group wants.  
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How many roles are there to claim? And what powers does each role have? Maybe a recap is in order?

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**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/474 "2007-02-23T08:58:10Z")

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Rev’s official “Day One” post is [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8242244&postcount=60):

> [@](#):
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> …Aside from the normal townspeople and werewolves;  
> === On the side of the Townspeople, there is a **Seer** in the game. The Seer is able, once per Night, to email me the name of any other player. I will tell them what role that player has.  
> === There’s also a **Guardian Angel**. The Guardian Angel can likewise email me a name each Night; however, the player they tell me will be safe from werewolf attacks for that Night, should the werewolves target them.  
> === There are also **Masons** in the game. Masons are Townspeople who know each other and know that they are not werewolves. Sadly due to the throat-ripping, Masons are unable to meet at Night to talk… but they still know that at least some other people are certainly not werewolves.  
> === The werewolves have an **Alpha Wolf**. In the event of a tie, the Alpha Wolf has final decision as to which player to kill during the Night. In addition, the Alpha Wolf will appear to be a Townsperson if the Seer investigates them.

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/475 "2007-02-23T13:19:33Z")

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Unvote **moonstarssun**.

I vote for **One and Only Wanderers**.

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/476 "2007-02-23T13:21:18Z")

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One and Only Wanderers - 7 Votes (JSexton, MadTheSwine, Richard Parker, Miller, dnooman, unfinished symphony, Winston Smith).

Miller - 5 Votes (jsgoddess, Rubystreak, moonstarssun, One and Only Wanderers, Enginerd).

moonstarssun - 1 Votes (Kat)

JSexton - 2 Votes (Suburban Plankton, Captain Carrot)

Richard Parker - 1 Vote (hocow)

Ogre - 1 Vote (ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)

Enginerd - 1 Vote (Ogre)

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/477 "2007-02-23T13:22:56Z")

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OK - role claim.

I’m pro-town, and I’m a Mason. This means I have slightly more information than a vanilla townie, as I know for sure who 2 other innocent parties are. Lynch me in haste and regret it at your leasure

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/478 "2007-02-23T13:51:13Z")

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Whoa. Looks like my vote-changing strategy was either spot-on, or horribly backfired.

:: shaking head ::

We’ve got nothing to go on but your word, tight? And it’s completely within the context of the game for a Werewolf to claim a townie title, right?

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/479 "2007-02-23T14:02:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Winston Smith]  
Whoa. Looks like my vote-changing strategy was either spot-on, or horribly backfired.

:: shaking head ::

We’ve got nothing to go on but your word, tight? And it’s completely within the context of the game for a Werewolf to claim a townie title, right?  
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yes and no. There are 2 other Masons. If i false claim Mason they can jump all over me, but that would involve outing themselves. These situations are always tricky.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/480 "2007-02-23T14:12:36Z")

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unvote. Masons are unlynchable. We know that they exist, and we know that the real masons would sink him if he was lying.

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