# Werewolf - a game. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 5, 2007, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997 "2007-02-05T23:04:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/501 "2007-02-23T18:45:45Z")
I’m switching votes from **Miller** to **Richard Parker**. ---
**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/502 "2007-02-23T18:47:07Z")
[QUOTE=Winston Smith] FOS: **dnooman** and **Ogre** [/QUOTE] Hey there drunky, you might want to point that finger back at your self. [QUOTE=Winston Smith] One and Only Wanderers - 7 Votes (JSexton, MadTheSwine, Richard Parker, Miller, dnooman, unfinished symphony, Winston Smith). Miller - 5 Votes (jsgoddess, Rubystreak, moonstarssun, One and Only Wanderers, Enginerd). moonstarssun - 1 Votes (Kat) JSexton - 2 Votes (Suburban Plankton, Captain Carrot) Richard Parker - 1 Vote (hocow) Ogre - 1 Vote (ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies) Enginerd - 1 Vote (Ogre) [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Winston Smith] All right. I’m voting with you, then. Unvote One and Only Wanderers. I vote for Miller. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Winston Smith] Latest tally * * * Miller - 5 Votes (jsgoddess, Rubystreak, moonstarssun, One and Only Wanderers, Enginerd, Winston Smith). One and Only Wanderers - 2 Votes (MadTheSwine, unfinished symphony). moonstarssun - 1 Votes (Kat) JSexton - 3 Votes (Suburban Plankton, Captain Carrot, Ogre) Richard Parker - 1 Vote (hocow) Ogre - 1 Vote (ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies) [/QUOTE] **Ogre** not only didn’t vote for **JSexton** in between your tallies, he _didn’t even post!_ Then, two minutes after you post the second tally, he votes just how you said he would. You also go from voting to lynch a guy to following his lead, that’s a 180 my friend, you’re looking pretty damn suspicious to me. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/503 "2007-02-23T18:50:27Z")
I’m an idiot. Now I see that you edited the post right after. :smack: I’m still not used to this edit feature. There is still the issue of the 180 though. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/504 "2007-02-23T18:57:47Z")
What the hell does FOS mean? ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/505 "2007-02-23T18:58:53Z")
[QUOTE=jsgoddess] Why would you believe that person? [/QUOTE] We wouldn’t necessarily, but since no one has spoken up we don’t face that dilemma. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/506 "2007-02-23T19:02:50Z")
[QUOTE=Ogre] What the hell does FOS mean? [/QUOTE] finger of suspicion. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/507 "2007-02-23T19:05:15Z")
Even if **One And Only Wanderers** were lying about being a Mason (and I don’t think he is), I’m not sure it would be wise for other Masons to announce themselves at this point. Then we would get into a case of “I’m a Mason!” “No you’re not, _I’m_ a Mason!”, with the result that suspicion would be thrown on the whole group. But if I were a Mason, and I knew that OAOW was lying, I would certainly tell the rest of the town that I think he’s a liar and that therefore I’m voting for him. Since nobody new has voted for him, and nobody has come in to support their existing vote, I say we can trust him. Which brings us to **Miller**. I’m still not convinced there is any evidence beyond his posting style to suggest he’s a werewolf. Of course, at this point in the game there’s not much evidence at all, so perhaps that’s as good as anything. We piled on \*\*Menocchio \*\*on Day 1 with even less reason, and that turned out OK. My suspicion of \*\*JSexton \*\*is flagging a bit, but I’m not ready to change my vote just yet. He was very quick to unvote OAOW as soon as the Mason claim was made. Perhaps a bit too quick? There are two possibilities: He could be an innocent townie, and repentant about his zeal to string up another innocent. Or he could be a werewolf, and very eager to not be seen as willing to lynch a Mason, since that would certainly tag him as being a werewolf. Or perhaps I’m just being reluctant to admit that I was wrong. I’ll definitely be giving this some more thought. I think we need to wait for a few more people to weigh in on things, particularly \*\*MadTheSwine \*\*and **unfinishedsymphony** , who have not posted since OAOW revealed himself. I think Day 2 is still wide open as far as lynchings are concerned. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/508 "2007-02-23T19:21:17Z")
[QUOTE=Suburban Plankton] Even if **One And Only Wanderers** were lying about being a Mason (and I don’t think he is), I’m not sure it would be wise for other Masons to announce themselves at this point. Then we would get into a case of “I’m a Mason!” “No you’re not, _I’m_ a Mason!”, with the result that suspicion would be thrown on the whole group. But if I were a Mason, and I knew that OAOW was lying, I would certainly tell the rest of the town that I think he’s a liar and that therefore I’m voting for him. Since nobody new has voted for him, and nobody has come in to support their existing vote, I say we can trust him. Which brings us to **Miller**. I’m still not convinced there is any evidence beyond his posting style to suggest he’s a werewolf. Of course, at this point in the game there’s not much evidence at all, so perhaps that’s as good as anything. We piled on \*\*Menocchio \*\*on Day 1 with even less reason, and that turned out OK. My suspicion of \*\*JSexton \*\*is flagging a bit, but I’m not ready to change my vote just yet. He was very quick to unvote OAOW as soon as the Mason claim was made. Perhaps a bit too quick? There are two possibilities: He could be an innocent townie, and repentant about his zeal to string up another innocent. Or he could be a werewolf, and very eager to not be seen as willing to lynch a Mason, since that would certainly tag him as being a werewolf. Or perhaps I’m just being reluctant to admit that I was wrong. I’ll definitely be giving this some more thought. I think we need to wait for a few more people to weigh in on things, particularly \*\*MadTheSwine \*\*and **unfinishedsymphony** , who have not posted since OAOW revealed himself. I think Day 2 is still wide open as far as lynchings are concerned. [/QUOTE] I very much agree with this post, and will similarly be taking some time before determining my vote. ---
**Author:** ![unfinished\_symphony](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d9b06d/32.png) [@unfinished\_symphony](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unfinished_symphony)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/509 "2007-02-23T19:26:16Z")
Ye gods, there’s a turn around. i’m going to unvote One and Only Wanderers until i’ve had a re read and a think. i guess that if someone saying ‘he’s not a Mason, I am!’ turned out to be lying, the other Mason’s would pick up on that. Unless the assumer has other non Mason’s who would be willing to lie and back up the claim. But one lynch from one side would reveal the rest of the group. This could turn into a Spartacus moment… ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/510 "2007-02-23T19:34:52Z")
i find it interesting that Menoccio followed Ogre on to the jsgoddess wagon. At the time he had no way of knowing he would be lynched and outed as the Alpha Wolf. Lynch Ogre ---
**Author:** ![unfinished\_symphony](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d9b06d/32.png) [@unfinished\_symphony](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unfinished_symphony)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/511 "2007-02-23T19:38:21Z")
[QUOTE=Suburban Plankton] I think we need to wait for a few more people to weigh in on things, particularly \*\*MadTheSwine \*\*and **unfinishedsymphony** , who have not posted since OAOW revealed himself. I think Day 2 is still wide open as far as lynchings are concerned. [/QUOTE] only just come on and reading through the Great Revelation. I’d got to **Jsgoddess** ’ post when i made mine (and was responding to the how would we believe them question). Forgot i hadn’t read everything yet. Not taken it all in yet, but as **Plankton** says, it’s still open at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/512 "2007-02-23T19:55:55Z")
What an evening! [QUOTE=JSexton] Can you explain what you mean here? [Re: me saying that **Wanderers** and **Sexton** are opposite sides of the same coin - Eng.] [/QUOTE] Sure. I mean that I see both of you playing the game a little too aggressively for me to be completely comfortable with you, but I don’t necessarily think that means you’re werewolves. You’re just moving too quickly for my tastes. The Mason announcement is interesting. Obviously, **Wanderers** either is or isn’t a Mason. If he isn’t, I’d expect another Mason to contradict his claim. If nobody says anything, then he probably is a Mason. I’ll leave it there until (unless) anybody pops up to object. This is my first post since he made the announcement, and I’m not going to say he’s lying. How many other people haven’t posted between now and then? Now that the **Wanderers** train seems to have derailed, we’ve got two folks leading the pack: **Miller** and **JSexton**. Since I’m not really that sold on the idea of **JSexton** being a werewolf, I want to throw **Ogre** into the mix here as well. His comments on the Seer’s activities earlier in the thread seem to me to be sniffing around where he shouldn’t have been sniffing. I’m leaving my vote for **Miller** for right now, but I’ve got my eye on **Ogre** over there. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/513 "2007-02-23T20:02:37Z")
[QUOTE=jsgoddess] Why would you believe that person? [/QUOTE] My thoughts exactly. I am actually quite surprised at how many vote changes have been prompted by **Wanderer’s** claim, and I don’t think the scenarios involving how the valid (as opposed to alleged) Mason’s could or could not confirm or deny his claim (or how invalid Mason’s could stir up trouble) are being though out thoroughly. Now I’m not saying that I have have decided that **Wanderers** is lying, or that he’s telling the truth, I’m just being cautious. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/514 "2007-02-23T20:04:10Z")
[QUOTE=One And Only Wanderers] i find it interesting that Menoccio followed Ogre on to the jsgoddess wagon. At the time he had no way of knowing he would be lynched and outed as the Alpha Wolf. Lynch Ogre [/QUOTE] My vote for Menocchio precipitated the final vote that got the Alpha Wolf. I assure you I’m not stupid enough to cut off my nose to spite my face. I, as I said before, am no werewolf. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/515 "2007-02-23T20:05:48Z")
[QUOTE=Ogre] My vote for Menocchio precipitated the final vote that got the Alpha Wolf. I assure you I’m not stupid enough to cut off my nose to spite my face. I, as I said before, am no werewolf. [/QUOTE] you were the first vote on him. you had no way of knowing at the time what would ultimately happen. your vote could easily have been a diversionary tactic. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/516 "2007-02-23T20:09:31Z")
[QUOTE=Enginerd] How many other people haven’t posted between now and then? [/QUOTE] To answer my own question, we’ve had posts from 14 people (not including **Wanderers** or any passers-by) since his claim, without any contradiction. **Winston Smith JSexton Richard Parker Suburban Plankton Rubystreak chrisk cometothedarksidewehavecookies Miller dnooman Ogre jsgoddess unfinished symphony Enginerd** **Rysto** and **Menocchio** are dead (may one of them rest in peace). We’ve yet to hear from **hocow** , **Kat** , **sturmhauke** , **MadtheSwine** , **moonsstarssun** , and **Captain Carrot**. Unless one of them pops up to point a finger, **Wanderers** seems to be off the hook. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/517 "2007-02-23T20:11:11Z")
[QUOTE=One And Only Wanderers] you were the first vote on him. you had no way of knowing at the time what would ultimately happen. your vote could easily have been a diversionary tactic. [/QUOTE] …which would have been an enormously stupid thing to do. Again, I assure you I’m not that dumb. ---
**Author:** ![Nature\_s\_Call](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nature_s_call/32/19006_2.png) [@Nature\_s\_Call](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nature_s_Call)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/518 "2007-02-23T20:34:37Z")
Just passing through Cecilton to say: I’ve just wasted my afternoon at work reading every post of this gripping saga! Please add me to the list of townspeople on deck either as a sub-in for this game (unlikely) or for the next round! ---
**Author:** ![hocow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hocow/32/4112_2.png) [@hocow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hocow)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/519 "2007-02-23T20:37:23Z")
IMHO I think **Wanderers** should be believed for just the reasons pointed out. If he were lying, someone would have jumped in to call him on it. I realize there are a few people who haven’t posted since his proclamation, however making such a claim would be too risky if it were untrue. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/520 "2007-02-23T20:41:59Z")
[QUOTE=Nature’s Call] Just passing through Cecilton to say: I’ve just wasted my afternoon at work reading every post of this gripping saga! Please add me to the list of townspeople on deck either as a sub-in for this game (unlikely) or for the next round! [/QUOTE] We can sign up for the next round now? Count me in too! I have been following this avidly since last wednesday. And I used to play mafia all the time, but never on the net. I just wish I had found the game a few days earlier. I would love to sub in if anyone else has to drop, but I am all over the next game if I can’t get into this one! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997.md?page=25) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997.md?page=27)