# Werewolf - a game.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 5, 2007, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997 "2007-02-05T23:04:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/641 "2007-02-26T03:03:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Suburban Plankton]  
In my post, I said that I was starting to become suspicious of the people who had voted for **Miller**. Then you changed your vote to **moonstarssun** , who had previously voted for Miller.  
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Ah. I missed the significance of that. I didn’t vote for her because of her **Miller** vote, but rather the bandwagon voting that happened to be for **Miller**.

But, obviously, both are probably townspeople.

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**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/642 "2007-02-26T03:12:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Suburban Plankton]  
Can you remind us why, exactly? I ask because this vote falls in line with my suspicions above.  
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I changed _back_ to **moonstarssun** instead of switching to a different suspect based on **jsgoddess** ’s observation that both of **moon** ’s votes are of the bandwagon-type. My original suspicions were (1) she’s not posting much in the game (which she explained on Day One as a lack of time due to work/school) but (2) she’s not posting much in the game _and_ voted for **Miller** because _he’s_ not posting much in the game either and (3) she posted at least 2 werewolf-related jokes, which makes me wonder if that’s a werewolf being cute and clever (because “Why would I joke about being a werewolf if I was one, that’d give me away?”).

I keep second guessing myself on that last one, though. I don’t know **moon** well enough to know if she’d joke about being a werewolf because she _is_ one or because she _isn’t_ one. Anyone else care to venture an opinion?

Edited to add: Yeah, that’s pretty thin, but _all_ the votes are on stuff that are pretty thin.

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**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/643 "2007-02-26T04:07:58Z")

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I’m not sold on any of the theories just yet, with the exception of my own ponderings. The odds are pretty good that we’ll end up lynching a townie no matter what. So at this point, the method used to choose someone is less important than the methods we will use in subsequent days.

That said, [random.org](http://random.org) tells me to vote for **hocow**.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/644 "2007-02-26T05:06:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Suburban Plankton]  
Whadd’ya mean “not a lifetime committment”?!? This is the SDMB, man! What could possibly be more important?  
I must say, when I preview my posts I should probably check \*content \*as well as _spelling_. I see that in my last post I said that \*\*Ogre \*\*was most likely not a werewolf, and then a few sentences later told him that he’d better come in and defend himself (which he did, and quite colorfully too).

:smack:

Sorry, Ogre.  
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Errrr, sorry for snapping. :smack:

I’m a little stressed.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/645 "2007-02-26T05:41:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Ogre]  
Errrr, sorry for snapping. :smack:

I’m a little stressed.  
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No problem. It looks like you’ve got a full plate, even without the hassle of worrying about having your neck stretched, or ripped out, whichever comes first.

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**Author:** ![moonstarssun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@moonstarssun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moonstarssun)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/646 "2007-02-26T05:46:02Z")

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My vote for **Miller** was based on the fact that he’s a frequent poster elsewhere on the board. He was being quiet in this one. Uncharacteristic behavior=suspicious in my book. It wasn’t a bandwagon vote so much as an “oh yeah, you’re right, where is he anyway” vote.

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**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/647 "2007-02-26T05:51:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Suburban Plankton]  
the hassle of worrying about having your neck stretched  
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If Giraffe were playing, and we hung him, would we need an extra large gallows?

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/648 "2007-02-26T07:18:24Z")

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OK, I’m going to bed. At this point, I’m leaning toward either \*\*moonstarssun \*\*or **Rubystreak** , based on the fact that they voted early on for **Miller** , which I figure is as good a reason as any at this point. Right now, a vote for Rubystreak is basically “wasted” unless a bunch of people follow my lead, which would be very surprising and frankly just plain stupid. A vote for moonstarssun would, if I have my numbers correct, set up a 4-4 tie with Miller.

So my plan is to get a good night’s sleep and check the thread before I leave for work in the morning. I’m hoping that someone will come in overnight with some incredible new insight, or that failing that the answer will come to me in a dream.

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/649 "2007-02-26T11:54:53Z")

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Your numbers are right, **Suburban Plankton**. A penultimate count;

Miller - 4 Votes (Rubystreak, moonstarssun, Enginerd, Winston Smith)

moonstarssun - 3 Votes (Kat, jsgoddess, unfinished symphony)

Ogre - 2 Votes (ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies, One and Only Wanderers)

JSexton - 1 Vote (Ogre)

Richard Parker - 1 Vote (hocow)

Winston Smith - 1 Vote (MadTheSwine)

hocow - 1 Vote (dnooman)

Voting closes at 6:00 my time, which is in six hours from the time of this post. Get your votes in, people.

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/650 "2007-02-26T13:33:33Z")

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Welly, welly, well. A Monday noon-time lynching.

Didn’t **Chicago** do a song about that?

**A Monday lynching in the Park**

\*A Monday lynching in the park  
I think I’ll take a pic-i-nic lunch  
A Monday lynching in the park  
I think I’ll take a pic-i-nic lunch  
People dancing, people laughing  
A man selling lint rollers  
Singing werewolf songs  
(wolf-like grunting and snorting)  
Can you dig it? (Yes I can)  
And I’ve been waiting such a long time  
For the lynching

A Monday lynching in the park  
You should take a pic-i-nic lunch  
A Monday lynching in the park  
You should take a pic-i-nic lunch  
Waving pitchforks, raising torches  
A man playing guitar  
Hippies are werewolves  
Will you help him slaughter chickens  
Can you dig it (Yes I can)  
And I’ve been waiting such a long time  
For the lynching

A Slow moving mob fly the colors of the day  
The accused man still can tell stories his own way  
Listen children all is not lost  
All is not lost

Let’s string him up in the park  
Every day’s a lynching day  
Let’s string him up in the park  
Every day’s a lynching day  
People chanting, people screaming  
A real celebration  
Waiting for us all  
Can you dig it (Yes I can)  
And I’ve been waiting such a long time  
For the lynching\*

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/651 "2007-02-26T14:14:20Z")

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Well, I’m going to be random and vote moonstarssun, pretty much because I suspect Miller less.

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/652 "2007-02-26T14:16:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Suburban Plankton]  
OK, I’m going to bed. At this point, I’m leaning toward either \*\*moonstarssun \*\*or **Rubystreak** , based on the fact that they voted early on for **Miller** , which I figure is as good a reason as any at this point.  
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Um, why is it a good reason? I think I’ve been pretty transparent in my voting logic-- faulty though it may be, whose isn’t?-- and I certainly didn’t jump on any bandwagon. I guess the random swings of the FOS will eventually point at everyone, so I’ll try not to take this personally, but still… 😕

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/653 "2007-02-26T14:59:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Rubystreak]  
Um, why is it a good reason? I think I’ve been pretty transparent in my voting logic-- faulty though it may be, whose isn’t?-- and I certainly didn’t jump on any bandwagon. I guess the random swings of the FOS will eventually point at everyone, so I’ll try not to take this personally, but still… 😕  
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I never said it was a \*good \*reason, just that it was as good as anything else at the moment. If you read my posts, I’ve explained my own logic, which is as well thought out as anyone else’s at this point. Which is to say, not very.

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/654 "2007-02-26T15:05:57Z")

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[QUOTE=Suburban Plankton]  
I never said it was a \*good \*reason, just that it was as good as anything else at the moment. If you read my posts,  
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Uh, yeah, Chief, I read your posts. Kinda have to, don’t I?

> [@](#):
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> I’ve explained my own logic, which is as well thought out as anyone else’s at this point. Which is to say, not very.

I actually didn’t SEE any logic to your vote for me. “She voted for Miller.” OK, but I voted for **Miller** for reasons I have consistently stated: you deliberately choose to lurk, you get the FOS. I am not the only person who believes that this is necessary to keep the game running; as **JSexton** said, and **RT** , our eminent Mod of this game reinforced: lurking is not an acceptable strategy, and in the absence of other damning evidence, lurking in itself is cause for question.

Your “logic” seems to be, come up with a random excuse to vote for someone. That doesn’t actually count as a “reason.” It gets a big old :dubious: from me.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/655 "2007-02-26T15:16:57Z")

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Whoa, awfully defensive for someone who is not even close to being lynched.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/656 "2007-02-26T15:27:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Winston Smith]  
Welly, welly, well. A Monday noon-time lynching.

Didn’t **Chicago** do a song about that?

**A Monday lynching in the Park**  
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You could be lynched just for that.

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/657 "2007-02-26T15:52:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Richard Parker]  
Whoa, awfully defensive for someone who is not even close to being lynched.  
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I prefer to think of it as being offensive. 😉 This is the first accusation I’ve gotten, and it feels weird, out of the blue, and completely unjustified. Also, I find random finger-pointing suspicious in and of itself, don’t you?

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/658 "2007-02-26T15:58:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Rubystreak]  
Uh, yeah, Chief, I read your posts. Kinda have to, don’t I?

I actually didn’t SEE any logic to your vote for me. “She voted for Miller.” OK, but I voted for **Miller** for reasons I have consistently stated: you deliberately choose to lurk, you get the FOS. I am not the only person who believes that this is necessary to keep the game running; as **JSexton** said, and **RT** , our eminent Mod of this game reinforced: lurking is not an acceptable strategy, and in the absence of other damning evidence, lurking in itself is cause for question.

Your “logic” seems to be, come up with a random excuse to vote for someone. That doesn’t actually count as a “reason.” It gets a big old :dubious: from me.  
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I think I explained my logic in [this post.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8296460&postcount=634) At least, that’s the best explanation I could come up with. I’ve said all along that there’s precious little to go on at this point.

I have several different, and often contradictory, lines of reasoning going right now. One of them says that I should vote for **moonstarssun** , for reasons explained in the linked post. Another says that I should vote for \*\*Miller \*\*because he isn’t coming in to defend himself.

In the end, I’m not terribly comfortable with casting what quite possibly would be the deciding vote this late in the game, since we are just a couple hours away from “sundown”. I’m going to hold my tongue for now, and let fate (or another poster) decide this one.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/659 "2007-02-26T16:04:45Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Also, I find random finger-pointing suspicious in and of itself, don’t you?

Since we still don’t have much data, no. It’s random. Your vote is random. Does that mean you’re suspicious of yourself?

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/660 "2007-02-26T16:17:38Z")

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vote moonstarssun. Because I really don’t think Miller is a wolf at tis point, and I’d rather see someone lynched who I’m less certain about.

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