# Werewolf - a game.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 5, 2007, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997 "2007-02-05T23:04:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2007, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/941 "2007-03-07T16:26:51Z")

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[QUOTE=jsgoddess]  
Fair enough. I’ll vote for **Winston Smith**. It’s not a confident vote, but I’m accountable for it.  
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D’Oh!

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2007, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/942 "2007-03-07T16:40:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Winston Smith]  
The fourth, fifth and sixth votes for me were cast yesterday in the PM at 6:31 ( **MadTheSwine** ), 8:01 ( **Kat** ), and 8:13 ( **ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies** ) respectively. I reckon I’ve got till 6:31 Eastern tonight, but that’s late at night for our humble game moderator, so it looks like tomorrow morning I’m gonna wake up dead. Unless somebody comes to my rescue. Anyone? Hello?

Help  
[/QUOTE]  
Merely because it’s easier and so people aren’t caught off guard if they haven’t been counting, i’m going to say it’s 24 hours from the vote count post in which I say there’s been **5** votes. That was 3.06pm my time, so at 3.00 on Thursday this Day will end. And, to the contrary, i’m far from humble, O puny one. 😉

If anyone wants someone other than **Winston** offed - now’s the time to speak up and convince others.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2007, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/943 "2007-03-07T16:42:15Z")

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[QUOTE=jsgoddess]  
Voters for **Winston** , are you deeply suspicious, or is he just the most suspicious of a mildly suspicious lot?  
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When I started composing [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8327081&postcount=895) post, he was at the top of my list, but I didn’t have much more than a vague suspicion of him. By the time I had gone back through the thread and compiled the information in that post, I was pretty well convinced that he was a werewolf.

Nothing he’s said since then has disabused me of that notion, either. I’m still ready to string him up - and I’m ready to eat crow if it turns out he’s really a townie. I just don’t think it’ll come down to that.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2007, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/944 "2007-03-07T17:10:07Z")

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Yeah, his non-answer answers have been pretty shady.

Vote Winston Smith.

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2007, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/945 "2007-03-07T18:22:01Z")

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Looks like I’m gonna swing, so it’s time.

I am a Mason.

I have knowledge of two other Masons in this game, and **One And Only Wanderers** _is not_ one of them, contrary to his claim. If the wolves know the identity of an empowered townie, why would they not eat him? I’ll tell you why. Because he’s not a Mason, and he’s not a townie. **One And Only Wanderers** is a werewolf. I haven’t chased him because I’ve been trying to smoke out his furry friends, whom I believe to be **jsgoddess** and **MadTheSwine**. Since I have been unable to allay doubt of my innocence and cast the eye of suspicion rightly upon these two, I think it’s time to right a big wrong. unvote **jsgoddess**  
I vote for **One And Only Wanderers**.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2007, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/946 "2007-03-07T18:28:12Z")

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And the reason you didn’t speak up when **Wanderers** claimed to be a Mason is…

I’m very happy with my vote.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2007, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/947 "2007-03-07T18:29:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Winston Smith]  
Looks like I’m gonna swing, so it’s time.

I am a Mason.

I have knowledge of two other Masons in this game, and **One And Only Wanderers** _is not_ one of them, contrary to his claim.  
[/QUOTE]

I do not believe you. Not a bit. And I hope that the other Masons won’t fall for this ploy.

If you _are_ a Mason, we’ll find out after you’re lynched. If you are one, we’ll lynch OAOW.

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2007, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/948 "2007-03-07T18:32:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Enginerd]  
And the reason you didn’t speak up when **Wanderers** claimed to be a Mason is…

I’m very happy with my vote.  
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I stated explicitly why. I knew he was lying about being a Mason, and figured the wolves would take him the first chance they got, because what possible reason would the wolves have for leaving a known Mason running around? The fact that he’s still alive can only mean one thing.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2007, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/949 "2007-03-07T18:34:48Z")

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Just a few posts after **Wanderers** claimed to be a Mason, you posted [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8289468&postcount=481):

> [@Winston Smith](#):
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> All right. I’m voting with you, then. [in response to Wanderers’ post]
> 
> Unvote One and Only Wanderers.
> 
> I vote for Miller.

Strange behavior for somebody who knows for a fact that **Wanderers** is lying. I’m perfectly happy to hang you and see if you’re telling the truth once the smoke clears. If you’re really a Mason, I’ll apologize to your family and take care of your grave as long as I live.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2007, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/950 "2007-03-07T18:36:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Winston Smith]  
I stated explicitly why. I knew he was lying about being a Mason, and figured the wolves would take him the first chance they got, because what possible reason would the wolves have for leaving a known Mason running around? The fact that he’s still alive can only mean one thing.  
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Or it could mean that the wolves assume the guardian angel’s protecting him, and don’t want to waste a night without killing anyone.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2007, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/951 "2007-03-07T18:38:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Winston Smith]  
I knew he was lying about being a Mason, and figured the wolves would take him the first chance they got  
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Contradictory. If he’s not a Mason, he’s a wolf. If you’re not a Mason, you’re a wolf.

And you’re not a Mason.

If you _were_ a Mason, you would have blown a perfect opportunity to get a wolf lynched. After all of our discussion, you would have known that, so a Mason lying low after someone falsely claimed Masonhood would have been silly.  
**OAOW** could have survived for many reasons. The Angel is one.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2007, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/952 "2007-03-07T18:52:09Z")

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[QUOTE=jsgoddess]  
If you _were_ a Mason, you would have blown a perfect opportunity to get a wolf lynched. After all of our discussion, you would have known that, so a Mason lying low after someone falsely claimed Masonhood would have been silly.  
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Not just you - two other people would have had to pass up that opportunity at the same time. I just don’t see it.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2007, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/953 "2007-03-07T19:11:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Winston Smith]  
Looks like I’m gonna swing, so it’s time.

I am a Mason.

I have knowledge of two other Masons in this game, and **One And Only Wanderers** _is not_ one of them, contrary to his claim. If the wolves know the identity of an empowered townie, why would they not eat him? I’ll tell you why. Because he’s not a Mason, and he’s not a townie. **One And Only Wanderers** is a werewolf. I haven’t chased him because I’ve been trying to smoke out his furry friends, whom I believe to be **jsgoddess** and **MadTheSwine**. Since I have been unable to allay doubt of my innocence and cast the eye of suspicion rightly upon these two, I think it’s time to right a big wrong. unvote **jsgoddess**  
I vote for **One And Only Wanderers**.  
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Thanks. You’ve convinced me.

More specifically, you’ve convinced me that I was wrong about \*\*jsgoddess \*\*\*and \*you.

unvote **jsgoddess**

vote **Winston Smith**

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2007, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/954 "2007-03-07T19:22:15Z")

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[QUOTE=jsgoddess]  
Contradictory. If he’s not a Mason, he’s a wolf. If you’re not a Mason, you’re a wolf.

And you’re not a Mason.

If you _were_ a Mason, you would have blown a perfect opportunity to get a wolf lynched. After all of our discussion, you would have known that, so a Mason lying low after someone falsely claimed Masonhood would have been silly.  
**OAOW** could have survived for many reasons. The Angel is one.  
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Not at all. It makes no sense to claim a role unless absolutely necessary. My situation is dire, so it’s time to lay my cards on the table (and let the chips fall where they may).

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2007, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/955 "2007-03-07T19:26:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Winston Smith]  
Not at all. It makes no sense to claim a role unless absolutely necessary.  
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The goal is to kill the werewolves. Outing a werewolf is where the role claim becomes “absolutely necessary.”

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2007, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/956 "2007-03-07T19:46:31Z")

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So let me get this straight. You ( **Winston Smith** ) expect us to believe the follwing:

\*\*OAOW \*\*falsely claims that he is a Mason, in order to avoid a lynching.  
You know that he is lying, yet you publicly support his claim anyway.  
The other two Masons, who also know he is lying, both decide to keep quiet as well.

Now, some days later, you claim that you are a Mason to avoid a lynching.  
The other two Masons, both of whom know you are telling the truth, choose to once again remain silent, instead of coming to your defense.  
Either we’ve got some of the most bone-idle, laziest Masons in history, or you’re full of it. I’m betting on the latter.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2007, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/957 "2007-03-07T19:48:05Z")

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Yep. I say we kill 'em and then lynch OAOW if we’re wrong.

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2007, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/958 "2007-03-07T19:52:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Suburban Plankton]  
So let me get this straight. You ( **Winston Smith** ) expect us to believe the follwing:

\*\*OAOW \*\*falsely claims that he is a Mason, in order to avoid a lynching.  
You know that he is lying, yet you publicly support his claim anyway.  
The other two Masons, who also know he is lying, both decide to keep quiet as well.

Now, some days later, you claim that you are a Mason to avoid a lynching.  
The other two Masons, both of whom know you are telling the truth, choose to once again remain silent, instead of coming to your defense.  
Either we’ve got some of the most bone-idle, laziest Masons in history, or you’re full of it. I’m betting on the latter.  
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Well. When you put it like _that_…

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2007, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/959 "2007-03-07T20:02:02Z")

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[QUOTE=Suburban Plankton]  
Either we’ve got some of the most bone-idle, laziest Masons in history, or you’re full of it. I’m betting on the latter.  
[/QUOTE]

Or else **WS** is just a townie who is really tired of playing and wants to wreak as much havoc as possible before dying. 😃

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2007, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/960 "2007-03-07T20:21:45Z")

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[QUOTE=Winston Smith]  
Well. When you put it like _that_…  
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Is that a confession?

**throws down a blanket to stake a prime viewing spot for the evening’s festivities**

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