# Werewolf - a game. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 5, 2007, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997 "2007-02-05T23:04:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/101 "2007-02-11T16:05:23Z")
we’re stalling a bit here. in the interest of provoking more dialogue unvote Captain Carrot Vote jsgoddess [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/102 "2007-02-11T16:28:44Z")
[QUOTE=Richard Parker] I think \*\*jsgoddess \*\*would not have drawn attention to herself so quickly were she a werewolf. Assuming that’s true, the werewolf is likely one who hopped on the \*\*jsgoddess \*\*bandwagon, but not too early. I think **Ogre** ’s succinct vote was an attempt to secure \*\*jsgoddess \*\*fate without drawing suspicion. I therefore say: Lynch Ogre! [/QUOTE] I think you’re on the right track, except I’m going with Menocchio. At mafiascum, a site devoted to this game, a longtime player did a study of townie bandwagons, and found that the third person on was highly likely to be a bad guy. Something about sensing the trend and getting on it. Anyway, it’s as good a tell as anything else right now, so vote for Meocchio! ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/103 "2007-02-11T16:46:20Z")
Count so far; Captain Carrot - 1 Vote Miller - 1 Vote jsgoddess - 4 Votes smiling bandit - 1 Vote One And Only Wanderers - 1 Vote Ogre - 1 Vote Menocchio - 1 Vote ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/104 "2007-02-11T16:53:52Z")
[QUOTE=Revenant Threshold] Count so far; Captain Carrot - 1 Vote Miller - 1 Vote jsgoddess - 4 Votes smiling bandit - 1 Vote One And Only Wanderers - 1 Vote Ogre - 1 Vote Menocchio - 1 Vote [/QUOTE] Hold on a sec. **One and Only Wanderers** “unvoted” **Captain Carrot** in order to vote for **jsgoddess** , and \*\*JSexton \*\*did the same thing, swapping \*\*Miller \*\*for **Menocchio**. So Miller and Captain Carrot should have no votes, right? ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/105 "2007-02-11T16:57:11Z")
Don’t we have until Friday to decide who we’re going to brutally murder based on nothing more than assumptions and bizarre accusations? Why’s everyone in such a rush to get their votes in? Calm down, guys. ---
**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/106 "2007-02-11T17:11:37Z")
[QUOTE=Rubystreak] Don’t we have until Friday to decide who we’re going to brutally murder based on nothing more than assumptions and bizarre accusations? Why’s everyone in such a rush to get their votes in? Calm down, guys. [/QUOTE] Because until there’s a couple rounds of voting, there’s nothing to base a decision on except assumptions and bizarre accusations (unless a werewolf gets \*really \*careless). This first round is just random. JSexton’s first random accusation was a good choice. Frankly, that’s why I jumped on the jsgoddess bandwagon. Do I really have any evidence that she’s a werewolf? Not really. But we’ve got to choose _somebody_, and generate some evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/107 "2007-02-11T17:16:25Z")
[QUOTE=Menocchio] Because until there’s a couple rounds of voting, there’s nothing to base a decision on except assumptions and bizarre accusations (unless a werewolf gets \*really \*careless). This first round is just random. JSexton’s first random accusation was a good choice. [/QUOTE] So we are going to vote around a bunch of times until Friday? Why are people voting, then changing their votes? It’s going to go 'round and 'round many times before Friday, I’d imagine, so those votes will probably change numerous times. But then again, I have no idea how this whole deal should work, so I guess this is as good a way as any. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/108 "2007-02-11T17:25:22Z")
[QUOTE=Suburban Plankton] Hold on a sec. **One and Only Wanderers** “unvoted” **Captain Carrot** in order to vote for **jsgoddess** , and \*\*JSexton \*\*did the same thing, swapping \*\*Miller \*\*for **Menocchio**. So Miller and Captain Carrot should have no votes, right? [/QUOTE] Yes. :smack: And it does in fact have “take out this vote” on my bit of paper. Guess I didn’t read it. I blame **JSexton** for my missing **Miller’s** unvoting, though. 😛 Actual count, then; jsgoddess - 4 Votes smiling bandit - 1 vote One And Only Wanderers - 1 Vote Ogre - 1 Vote Menocchio - 1 Vote ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/109 "2007-02-11T17:52:01Z")
[QUOTE=Rubystreak] So we are going to vote around a bunch of times until Friday? Why are people voting, then changing their votes? It’s going to go 'round and 'round many times before Friday, I’d imagine, so those votes will probably change numerous times. But then again, I have no idea how this whole deal should work, so I guess this is as good a way as any. [/QUOTE] Ruby, on day 2 3 4 etc, we can go back to these voting records to try and work out who’s with who. don’t forget the werewolves know who the other werewolves are ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/110 "2007-02-11T17:55:19Z")
[QUOTE=One And Only Wanderers] Ruby, on day 2 3 4 etc, we can go back to these voting records to try and work out who’s with who. don’t forget the werewolves know who the other werewolves are [/QUOTE] True. I guess I don’t feel like I have remotely enough information to accuse anyone of anything yet. But maybe that’s part of the fun, eh? Pretending to be a character in _The Crucible_, except with werewolves instead of witches. Maybe\*\* jsgoddess \*\* just has ergot poisoning… Will there be a final call for votes at the end of the Day period, for those of us who are waiting to decide? ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/111 "2007-02-11T18:12:47Z")
[QUOTE=Rubystreak] Will there be a final call for votes at the end of the Day period, for those of us who are waiting to decide? [/QUOTE] The longest this Day stage will last is until next Friday. I’ll stick up a message on Thursday saying it’s your last chance to vote. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/112 "2007-02-11T19:30:34Z")
[QUOTE=Rubystreak] So we are going to vote around a bunch of times until Friday? Why are people voting, then changing their votes? It’s going to go 'round and 'round many times before Friday, I’d imagine, so those votes will probably change numerous times. But then again, I have no idea how this whole deal should work, so I guess this is as good a way as any. [/QUOTE] It’s a lynchin’. There’s chaos. There’s lots of heated back-and-forth. There’s almost no information to go on until we’ve played for a while. But we can’t go on until somebody swings. Nasty, eh? ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/113 "2007-02-11T19:34:35Z")
[QUOTE=Ogre] It’s a lynchin’. There’s chaos. There’s lots of heated back-and-forth. There’s almost no information to go on until we’ve played for a while. But we can’t go on until somebody swings. Nasty, eh? [/QUOTE] Yes. I wish someone would just say something really obvious. It must be so much easier to play this IRL, when you can look in a person’s face and tell if they are bullshitting you. On the internet, I guess you have to look at voting patterns or something over time, and the first few lynchings are just random. Can’t look for flecks of froth on a person’s muzzle in virtual reality. That said, I’m going to hold off voting until later in the week. A hand will get tipped between now and then, probably… right? Yeah. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/114 "2007-02-11T21:02:28Z")
Yeah. Day one’s going to be pretty random. Odds are slim that we’ll actually catch a bad guy today. We’ll try, of course, but we don’t have enough info. Later, though, when some alignments are known through death, this day will be a treasure trove of information to sift through. That’s why we need to keep on top of lurkers. It’s going to simply be unacceptable for people to not post. We need to ask the narrator to replace them if they refuse to post, and we need to be willing to lynch them otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/115 "2007-02-11T23:55:27Z")
[QUOTE=JSexton] That’s why we need to keep on top of lurkers. It’s going to simply be unacceptable for people to not post. We need to ask the narrator to replace them if they refuse to post, and we need to be willing to lynch them otherwise. [/QUOTE] I was wondering about that, if there could be a “no lurking” rule. Does the first day have to last a week? It seems since we don’t have any data, that the decision can be made much more quickly. Do you bring a picnic basket to your own lynching? That is the question. If I do, anyone who voted to lynch me isn’t allowed to eat the chicken salad. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/116 "2007-02-12T00:33:51Z")
[QUOTE=One And Only Wanderers] we’re stalling a bit here. in the interest of provoking more dialogue unvote Captain Carrot Vote jsgoddess [/QUOTE] You know, you’re right, the lynch **jsgodess** bandwagon has flagged a bit. Any particular reason you’re interested in starting it up again? Vote for One And Only Wanderers Edit: fix coding ---
**Author:** ![Eureka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/74df32/32.png) [@Eureka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eureka)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/117 "2007-02-12T00:41:59Z")
[QUOTE=Rubystreak] Yes. I wish someone would just say something really obvious. It must be so much easier to play this IRL, when you can look in a person’s face and tell if they are bullshitting you. [/QUOTE] Not neccessarily. I’ve played Mafia IRL, and we had one guy who could always figure out who the Mafia were–given enough time. (Actually, I think we played a few rounds simply for the fun of watching him figure out who was Mafia. He’d ask everyone questions and sooner or later would announce that he knew who was Mafia. Wonder how things would have turned out had he ever been Mafia). On the other hand, I once played with a group of 10-15. I was the only Mafia person left, with two townspeople. I (uncharacteristically) announced that I was sure that Boy was Mafia. Boy claimed I was Mafia. Girl dithered and dithered before finally picking Boy to lynch, despite more than one dead person who “helpfully” agreed with Boy that I was acting out of character(my IRL character, not my in game character). And so, I won. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/118 "2007-02-12T00:45:54Z")
[QUOTE=jsgoddess] Does the first day have to last a week? It seems since we don’t have any data, that the decision can be made much more quickly. [/QUOTE] After thinking about it, I guess I can answer my own question. It isn’t that the decision could be made quickly, but that the longer the conversation goes, the more data (hopefully) there is for the next day, right? Apologies for learning this as we go. ---
**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/119 "2007-02-12T01:48:03Z")
[QUOTE=jsgoddess] Do you bring a picnic basket to your own lynching? That is the question. If I do, anyone who voted to lynch me isn’t allowed to eat the chicken salad. [/QUOTE] Hmmm…are you one of those people that put grapes in the chicken salad? ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/120 "2007-02-12T01:59:59Z")
[QUOTE=Eureka] Not neccessarily. I’ve played Mafia IRL, and we had one guy who could always figure out who the Mafia were–given enough time. [/quote] But could he do it over the Internet? That’s my question. > [@](#): > > Girl dithered and dithered before finally picking Boy to lynch, despite more than one dead person who “helpfully” agreed with Boy that I was acting out of character(my IRL character, not my in game character). And so, I won. Sounds like Girl wasn’t too good with the bullshit detector then, eh? We’d all like to think we could tell, but that would undermine our entire political process, wouldn’t it… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997.md?page=7)