# Werewolf - a game. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 5, 2007, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997 "2007-02-05T23:04:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2007, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/161 "2007-02-13T14:38:41Z")
[QUOTE=sturmhauke] I’m not familiar with online conventions, but in RL games I’ve known people who were fairly quiet the first couple of rounds but started maneuvering a lot later. [/quote] The difference here is that IRL, they are still clearly in the room, and are reacting to the conversation, even if they’re not actively speaking. Online, we get nothing, not even a presence to notice. > [@](#): > > Given the slower overall pace here that might not be feasible. But you know, instead of GM intervention we could just string up the silent ones. Even if they aren’t guilty of being werewolves, they’re guilty of not contributing to our pleasant little community of traditional values. Mislynches are bad for the town. They are sometimes unavoidable, sure, we nee to be relatively sure of ourselves. Spending a days lynch on someone for noncontribution isn’t a step to be taken lightly. We only get maybe 6-8 lynches here, and possibly less if we miss often. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2007, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/162 "2007-02-13T14:40:26Z")
[QUOTE=One And Only Wanderers] I assume it’s seen as scummy, because there are more pro-town than anti-town players, so a random lynch is morel likely to benefit the opposition. How much would it suck if the guy who has the Doc role just happens to not post much? as long as he reads and protects someone at night, then he is still (potentially) useful. [/QUOTE] Ah, but it’s not random. It’s based on a specific behavior, and one that scum often strive for. Yes, Docs do tend to keep a lower profile, to avoid being seen as a threat and nightkilled. But keeping a lower profile does not equal posting once per game day. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2007, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/163 "2007-02-13T14:45:13Z")
I have changed my mind about Ogre (for now). I think **JSexton** doth protest too much. He is trying too hard to show that he is on the side of the town. I vote for JSexton. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2007, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/164 "2007-02-13T14:49:54Z")
[QUOTE=One And Only Wanderers] I assume it’s seen as scummy, because there are more pro-town than anti-town players, so a random lynch is morel likely to benefit the opposition. How much would it suck if the guy who has the Doc role just happens to not post much? as long as he reads and protects someone at night, then he is still (potentially) useful. [/QUOTE] Lynching somebody who’s only barely participating isn’t random, though. If someone like the doctor or the seer isn’t participating, the game suffers. It would suck if they were lynched accidentally the first day… but if the votes are swinging that way for a couple of days and they don’t show up to defend themselves, what are the odds that they’ll actually play their roles throughout the game? Regardless, the first day’s lynch is going to be as close to random as it gets. We’ve got nothing to go on but what’s been posted (or not posted) here. It seems to me that lynching a lurker is as good a way to pick as any of our other options. Hell, I voted to lynch **Menocchio** based on a profile he put together six years ago, and I’m pretty sure **Rev** didn’t consider that in assigning roles. Is lynching a lurker any less random than that? ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2007, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/165 "2007-02-13T14:54:58Z")
[QUOTE=Richard Parker] I have changed my mind about Ogre (for now). I think **JSexton** doth protest too much. He is trying too hard to show that he is on the side of the town. I vote for JSexton. [/QUOTE] See? That wasn’t so hard. That’s why interaction is good, and silence is stagnation. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2007, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/166 "2007-02-13T15:04:37Z")
Let it be known that I’m going to vote to lynch the person who as contributed least to this thread when the vote is called. This is my way of dealing with not having enough info to lynch an actual bad guy yet. Should some of these lurkers suddenly start posting a lot more, I will revise my strategy. **Kythereia** , **Rysto** , **Richard Parker** , and **MadtheSwine** , you’re on notice. ---
**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2007, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/167 "2007-02-13T19:07:56Z")
I suppose low post counts are as good a reason as any to choose a victim for these early round lynchings, but I think laziness (or strategy backfiring\*) is just as likely. I’m hesitant to draw much of a conclusion from them. At least, not right away. \*After all, the Seer doesn’t have any info to give us yet, and the Guardian Angel and Masons want to hide from the werewolves. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2007, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/168 "2007-02-13T19:23:43Z")
[QUOTE=Menocchio] but I think laziness (or strategy backfiring\*) is just as likely. [/QUOTE] If it’s strategy, that’s one thing. But if it’s laziness, that can kinda ruin the game for everyone, can’t it? I don’t know. I think I’ll probably get lynched before I can manage to vote for someone! ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2007, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/169 "2007-02-13T21:26:47Z")
Well, since you all asked so nicely, here’s the state of things as I see them: **jsgoddess** got the ball rolling with a bunch of unsubstantiated accusations. Of course, at that point, the townsfolk have no information whatsoever, so all the accusations are going to be unsubstantiated. Accusations fly between **Rubystreak** , **jsgoddess** , **Mennochio** and **Enginerd**. Then **One and Only Wanderers** steps up and delivers our first vote, accusing **Captain Carrot**. **jsgoddess** , **Miller** , **Wanderers** and **Ogre** continue to deliver accusations(but not votes), with a definite feeling against **jsgoddess** (who, at this point, has probably realized that calling out enough people to lynch her may not have been the wisest course). **JSexton** throws out a random vote for **Miller**. **Miller** starts the **jsgoddess** bandwagon, which **Ogre** and **Mennochio** promptly join. **Wanderers** opines that an early bandwagon can be indicative of werewolves jumping in to lynch a townie. **hocow** then came in and threw out a random vote at **smiling bandit** , who had yet to post. **Captain Carrot** retaliated for **Wanderer’s** vote by voting for him. **Mennochio** , like any good townie, has come up with some great strategies that the Werewolves could counter, if only they knew them. **Wanderer** then lets slip that this is his time playing this game. **Suburban Plankton** summarizes the first page, and mentions that **Captain Carrot** and **Wanderer** , among others, jumped right in with a vote. **Captain Carrot** assures us that he was only reliating to **Wanderer** ’s accusation, while **Wanderer** says that he was just trying to get a dialogue going. **Richard Parker** comes in and starts the anti-bandwagon bandwagon by voting for **Ogre** On the next page, **Wanderer** starts us off by trying to restart the **jsgoddess** bandwagon, solely in the interests of getting a dialogue going again. **JSexton** jumps on the anti-bandwagon bandwagon, but votes for **Mennochio** instead. **Mennochio** says that he voted for **jsgoddess** because one random vote is as good as another. **Rubystreak** and **Wanderer** have a discussion on why the voting pattern in the first day is so important. **JSexton** posts his first complaint about lurkers. Then I stepped in, suspicious of **Wanderer** trying to revive a flagging bandwagon, and voted for him. **ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies** threw out a random vote for **Enginerd**. **Winston Smith** jumps on the **jsgoddess** bandwagon. **Enginerd** throws out a vote for **Mennochio**. **moonstarsun** gets on the **jsgoddess** bandwagon. **Suburban Plankton** says that it’s suspicious that the normally talkative **Kythereia** has been so quiet, and votes for her. **JSexton** again says that something must be done about lurkers. On the last page, **Ogre** decides he doesn’t like where the **jsgoddess** bandwagon is going, and removes his vote. A few hours later, **Wanderer** does the same, and votes for **JSexton** , saying that a lynch lurkers vote is a scum tell. **JSexton** , undeterred, maintains that it’s important. **Richard Parker** joins **Wanderer** and votes for **JSexton**. **Rubystreak** decides to lynch lurkers as well, while **Mennochio** isn’t so sure about it. Some thoughts: - **Wanderer** sure uses a lot of Mafia lingo for someone who’s never played the game before - **JSexton** ’s anti-lurker campaign seems to be splitting the town – some people are all for it, but he’s definitely generating some antagonism towards himself - **Kythereia** not posting much is out of character - **Menocchio** jumped on the jsgoddess bandwagon pretty quickly. Perhaps it’s all a part of that master plan ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2007, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/170 "2007-02-13T21:51:13Z")
[QUOTE=Rysto] Some thoughts: - **Wanderer** sure uses a lot of Mafia lingo for someone who’s never played the game before [/QUOTE] I liked the concept so much, I’ve been and gone and signed up for [mafiascum.net](http://mafiascum.net). I have read through 4 or 5 games on there, so I have some of the lingo, if not the moves. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/171 "2007-02-14T01:28:59Z")
[QUOTE=Rysto] A few hours later, **Wanderer** does the same, and votes for **JSexton** , saying that a lynch lurkers vote is a scum tell. [/QUOTE] Deciding to lynch lurkers is a “scum tell.” Being a lurker is a scum tell. Throwing out obviously silly accusations is a scum tell. Jumping on the bandwagon too fast, in someone’s estimation, is a scum tell. What isn’t a scum tell? Paranoia… or is everyone out to get us? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/172 "2007-02-14T01:47:45Z")
Well, yeah, it’s all about paranoia. On that note, I’d like to point out that I ran a search on Kythereia, and she hasn’t posted anywhere on the SDMB for 5 days. This clearly indicates that she’s not only a werewolf, but a spy for the KGB. We don’t need any commie lycanthropes running around our nice town. Richard Parker hasn’t posted much, it’s true, but he cast a vote, then changed it. We can decide about him later. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/173 "2007-02-14T01:49:40Z")
[QUOTE=sturmhauke] Well, yeah, it’s all about paranoia. On that note, I’d like to point out that I ran a search on Kythereia, and she hasn’t posted anywhere on the SDMB for 5 days. This clearly indicates that she’s not only a werewolf, but a spy for the KGB. We don’t need any commie lycanthropes running around our nice town. [/QUOTE] Huh. Well, what if she has a life outside the SDMB? Does that mean she’s definitely a werewolf or definitely not? Maybe it’s a scum tell! Yeah, that’s it. ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/174 "2007-02-14T02:06:45Z")
Maybe she has a life, maybe something happened to her, maybe she’s lurking. In any case, she’s not playing. I think JSexton’s right - without body language to judge what someone’s silence means, we got nothing to go on. Also, I looked up MadTheSwine’s posts, and he has been active in other threads. So he’s being lurksome on purpose. Of course, Revenant said he was going to cut lurkers that don’t speak up by Friday, so perhaps the rest of us can be suspicious of the rest of us, and leave the lurkers to their fate. ---
**Author:** ![\_Deep\_F\_ied](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/7cd45c/32.png) [@\_Deep\_F\_ied](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_Deep_F_ied)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/175 "2007-02-14T02:24:07Z")
Damn, I wish I had seen this earlier. Just poking my head in to say I am enjoying watching the events unfold… Go ahead and lynch me, I don’t care. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/176 "2007-02-14T02:50:41Z")
Our electricity went out, and I was afraid I’d come back to find myself lynched. 'Cause that would suck. ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/177 "2007-02-14T02:58:12Z")
Well, we don’t want to be too hasty, even if you are a bacon hating pagan witch. ---
**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/178 "2007-02-14T03:36:02Z")
[QUOTE=Rubystreak] What isn’t a scum tell? [/quote] Voting based on food preferences? > [@](#): > > Paranoia… or is everyone out to get us? 😉 Well, now, the two aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive. Maybe everyone is out to get us because we’re paranoid? 😃 _pokes **MadtheSwine** with a sharp stick to see if he’s still alive_ ---
**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/179 "2007-02-14T03:38:50Z")
_pokes **Rysto** with the sharp stick for leaving her completely out of the recap_ ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/180 "2007-02-14T03:49:58Z")
[QUOTE=Kat] _pokes **Rysto** with the sharp stick for leaving her completely out of the recap_ [/QUOTE] I’d like everyone to note that the stick was not made of silver. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997.md?page=10)