# Werewolf (Mafia)--The Split \[Signups--In progress\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 13, 2009, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692 "2009-02-13T15:44:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/201 "2009-02-17T21:20:53Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Why is **Daphne** pinging so many people’s radars? Her posts seem fairly sensible to me. Especially for one who’s never played the game before. She’s put thought into this. Okay, that doesn’t mean she’s not a wolf, but I don’t see any evidence that makes her any wolfier than anyone else. Though I’ll admit I haven’t gotten a good look at her palms lately. Most notably: She’s talking an insane amount compared to everyone else. Mafia tend to look _different_ than other players (the way varies, but standing out tends to be slightly indicative). Her post count suggests she’s worth watching. She’s also pinged me slightly on other issues, but that’s what stood out to me. Of course, my “best guess” on Day 1 isn’t worth all that much. Oh: she has played before, just not here. ---
**Author:** ![\_Undecided\_Adrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/eada6e/32.png) [@\_Undecided\_Adrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_Undecided_Adrian)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/202 "2009-02-17T22:09:34Z")
**fluiddruid** , the information part of your post seems sensible and you seem to agree with **Lemur866** (except perhaps for the lurker kill in early rounds). **Lemur866s** posts made at least as much sense to me. I don’t know at all where your gut feeling is coming from, but going for an experienced player who has and explains a good strategy is a possible scum tell (yes, I’m aware that I’m going for an experienced player myself now). So unless you can explain your vote a bit better, **Test fluiddruid** ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/203 "2009-02-17T22:26:27Z")
Vote Count! november (5): Lemur866, Freudian Slit, Oredigger77, Telecontar, Mahaloth Daphne Black (1): Seeker of Truth and Beauty Lemur866 (1): fluiddruid fluiddruid (1): [Undecided] Adrian rexnervous (1): Oredigger77 Freudian Slit (1): Scuba\_Ben Telcontar (1): Zeriel Lemur866 (1): fluiddruid november (1): Lemur866 Telcontar (1): Zeriel ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/204 "2009-02-17T22:27:54Z")
> [@Seeker of Truth & Beauty](#): > > Well, I’m really new to the game, and so while I’m not the lurkiest lurker, I’ve also not contributed much to strategy, but then, I’m really inexperienced. So, I guess I’m saying please don’t lynch me because I DON’T WANNA DIE but then again maybe it would be helpful to lynch me because I may not provide much help later on if I live. > > I have no idea what I’m doing yet. > > I think we might want to test Daphne, though – she talks a lot and she’s getting on my nerves. Besides, I have this “feeling.” > I think testing votes go in purple? > Test **DaphneBlack** I’m ‘getting on your nerves’? How come? Why is that worth a vote? > [@Telcontar](#): > > I’m a little torn on the count given than my top suspicion is DaphneBlack, but i’m willing to go with it on Day 1. > test November Why? What have I done that is suspicious or anti-town? ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/205 "2009-02-17T22:29:05Z")
test Telcontar ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/206 "2009-02-17T22:30:36Z")
In the absence of anything better (I’m not picking up the same anti-Town vibe from **DaphneBlack** that so many of you apparently are), test-the-lurker seems reasonable enough to me. I also think we may as well get the immediate feedback, so test november lynch november ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/207 "2009-02-17T22:46:36Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > Vote Count! > > november (5): Lemur866, Freudian Slit, Oredigger77, Telecontar, Mahaloth > Daphne Black (1): Seeker of Truth and Beauty > Lemur866 (1): fluiddruid > fluiddruid (1): [Undecided] Adrian > rexnervous (1): Oredigger77 > Freudian Slit (1): Scuba\_Ben > Telcontar (1): Zeriel > > Lemur866 (1): fluiddruid > november (1): Lemur866 > Telcontar (1): Zeriel Woo! I get two votes. Just to keep it simple I’ll Unvote rexnervous By the way I don’t remember if thats the right color. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/208 "2009-02-17T22:53:11Z")
We unvote in red. Yeah, I’ve been getting confused, too. ---
**Author:** ![rexnervous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9c0ed/32.png) [@rexnervous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rexnervous)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/209 "2009-02-17T23:03:17Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > We unvote in red. Yeah, I’ve been getting confused, too. Actually, you unvote TESTERIZER votes in **orange** according to an offhand comment made by mod in one of his posts. We should probably confirm, so **Pedescribe please confirm** Testerizer votes: **Vote** Unvote Lynch votes; Vote Unvote Is that correct? ---
**Author:** ![rexnervous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9c0ed/32.png) [@rexnervous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rexnervous)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/210 "2009-02-17T23:07:45Z")
As far as my vote, the one who strikes me the most “iffy” is Telcontar - I don’t agree intuitively with his math and his urging for us to postpone a lynching. On the face of it, it seems anti-town. However, not anti-town enough that I won’t go with the “vote the lurker”. IMHO we need to keep those who post around because that’s information in and of itself for later use. So… Vote \*\*November \*\*for Testerizer Vote **November** for Lynching ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/211 "2009-02-17T23:08:14Z")
Damnit! I forgot that the unvote for testerizer and lynch were different. Can’t we unvote in the same color? ::looks cute and befuddled by color choice:: ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/212 "2009-02-17T23:11:57Z")
At the moment, the Testerizer is all we’ve got; I hope we have more info later in the Day, or by Day 2. So for now, I have to side with **Lynch whomever we Test** It’s early in the Day, so I’m not too concerned about any particular vote pattern yet. I’m willing to move my vote for Test around as information comes out. (In other words, **november** please speak up.) I note that we will need a minimum of two different data points to figure out the Testerizer. This assumes the following conjectures are true: - The Testerizer is consistent – a given set of outputs maps to a single, nonchanging set of inputs. - The Testerizer is accurate. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/213 "2009-02-18T00:13:54Z")
> [@rexnervous](#): > > Actually, you unvote TESTERIZER votes in **orange** according to an offhand comment made by mod in one of his posts. > > We should probably confirm, so **Pedescribe please confirm** > > Testerizer votes: > **Vote** > Unvote > > Lynch votes; > Vote > Unvote > > Is that correct? That is all correct. > [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > At the moment, the Testerizer is all we’ve got; I hope we have more info later in the Day, or by Day 2. So for now, I have to side with > > **Lynch whomever we Test** > > It’s early in the Day, so I’m not too concerned about any particular vote pattern yet. I’m willing to move my vote for Test around as information comes out. (In other words, **november** please speak up.) > > I note that we will need a minimum of two different data points to figure out the Testerizer. This assumes the following conjectures are true: > > - The Testerizer is consistent – a given set of outputs maps to a single, nonchanging set of inputs. > - The Testerizer is accurate. I’m not going to count this as a vote, because it’s ambiguous. Vote Count! november (7): Lemur866, Freudian Slit, Oredigger77, Telecontar, Mahaloth, Jimmy Chitwood , rexnervous Telcontar (2): Zeriel, Daphne Black Daphne Black (1): Seeker of Truth and Beauty Lemur866 (1): fluiddruid fluiddruid (1): [Undecided] Adrian Freudian Slit (1): Scuba\_Ben november (3): Lemur866, Jimmy Chitwood, rexnervous Lemur866 (1): fluiddruid Telcontar (1): Zeriel ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/214 "2009-02-18T00:43:03Z")
In for a penny… test Telcontar lynch november ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/215 "2009-02-18T01:06:30Z")
Elendil, I don’t like that one bit–I guess you are probably voting to lynch for the testing leader while voting to test the person you find most suspicious, but it looks weird after all the discussion to be voting for someone other than your intended test target. ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/216 "2009-02-18T01:19:33Z")
Yes, at this point it doesn’t make sense to test/vote different people. The voting/testing for **november** is obviously all Lynch-The-Lurker motivated, and that’s OK, but I don’t think we have absolutely nothing else to go on at this point. It seems to me that folks are going for the easy option with this. ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/217 "2009-02-18T01:22:30Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > In for a penny… > > test Telcontar > lynch november You are the only person to be testing and lynching different people so far. Care to explain your thinking here? **November** , care to explain… anything? Lurking is not working out for you. ---
**Author:** ![Seeker\_of\_Truth\_and\_Beauty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@Seeker\_of\_Truth\_and\_Beauty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seeker_of_Truth_and_Beauty)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/218 "2009-02-18T01:30:31Z")
> [@DaphneBlack](#): > > Yes, at this point it doesn’t make sense to test/vote different people. > > The voting/testing for **november** is obviously all Lynch-The-Lurker motivated, and that’s OK, but I don’t think we have absolutely nothing else to go on at this point. It seems to me that folks are going for the easy option with this. So. We have here the most vociferous poster defending the least talkative. Obviously, they know each other… need I say more? I believe we’re on the right track here; I have seen the error of my ways. Unvote **DaphneBlack** Vote **november** ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/219 "2009-02-18T01:42:37Z")
> [@Seeker of Truth & Beauty](#): > > So. We have here the most vociferous poster defending the least talkative. Obviously, they know each other… need I say more? > > I believe we’re on the right track here; I have seen the error of my ways. > > Unvote **DaphneBlack** > > Vote **november** [bleached] Really? You think my saying that I thought the votes for **november** were ‘OK’ is a defence? You’ve gotta be kidding me. Also, seriously, anyone who smudges me for being ‘vociferous’ - that is a big :dubious: from me. Everyone should be talkative! We should all want to hear everyone’s thoughts. It’s by talking to each other we can find scum. I’m on the record saying that I think lynch-the-lurker is a better scum-catching strategy after a few Days. On Day One LTL has a similar problem to no-lynch (tho less severe obviously), in that it leaves us with very little info gained from the lynch. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/220 "2009-02-18T01:51:33Z")
Vote Count! november (8): Lemur866, Freudian Slit, Oredigger77, Telecontar, Mahaloth, Jimmy Chitwood , rexnervous, Seeker of Truth and Beauty Telcontar (3): Zeriel, Daphne Black, Elendil’s Heir Lemur866 (1): fluiddruid fluiddruid (1): [Undecided] Adrian Freudian Slit (1): Scuba\_Ben november (4): Lemur866, Jimmy Chitwood, rexnervous, Elendil’s Heir Lemur866 (1): fluiddruid Telcontar (1): Zeriel [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692.md?page=12)