# Werewolf (Mafia)--The Split \[Signups--In progress\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 13, 2009, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692 "2009-02-13T15:44:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/341 "2009-02-19T01:36:29Z")

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I know I’m being an annoying newbie, but when do the results come in from the testerizer? I know the vote becomes final in about 90 minutes, but when do we learn the mysterious results?

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/342 "2009-02-19T01:38:46Z")

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**fluiddruid** makes a good point, and here’s where a BB-based game behaves differently than an in-person game.

Since we have our Day 1 test agreed upon and most likely our Day 1 lynch, that gives us a full week to analyze the various posts and see who comes across as scummy, vs just aggressive. (Not that I’m any good at telling the two apart either.)

Based on the votes in post #327, the players to watch (at the moment) are:  
DaphneBlack  
Telcontar  
Seeker of Truth and Beauty  
Lemur866

And of course our veterans are worth watching. They are bound to have good ideas, and if any of them are werewolves (on pure chance, one of them probably is), that person’s good ideas will lead to our DOOOOOOOooooooommmm…

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/343 "2009-02-19T02:56:36Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
>
> It’s not hostility, per se, its just that you’re the scummiest person extant right now, and like I said, I play aggressive.
> 
> Besides, getting used to having a hound dog gnawing on your butt is one of those “life skills” of mafia–gotta learn eventually, but there are a LOT of scum players who get caught when they melt down because someone’s harrying them a bit.
> 
> Kudos on not falling into that trap, btw. 😃

And it’s great for politics, too!

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/344 "2009-02-19T03:00:43Z")

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Halfway Vote Count!

november (11): Lemur866, Freudian Slit, Mahaloth, Jimmy Chitwood , rexnervous, Allwalker, Daphne Black, Ichini Sanshigo, Seeker of Truth & Beauty, Scuba\_Ben, Justin Credible  
Daphne Black (2): Telecontar, Oredigger77  
Telcontar (2): Zeriel, Elendil’s Heir  
Lemur866 (1): fluiddruid  
fluiddruid (1): [Undecided] Adrian

november (9): Lemur866, Jimmy Chitwood, rexnervous, Elendil’s Heir, AllWalker, Ichini Sanshigo, Seeker of Truth & Beauty, Scuba\_Ben, Mahaloth  
Lemur866 (1): fluiddruid  
Telcontar (1): Zeriel

November was, at this point, catatonic. People tried to get him to move, to point out the werewolves, to at least sit in the testerizer chair, but they had to drag him in there. The chair looked a little goofy. Like an electrical chair, but there were a bunch of prongs connected to the arms and legs, and a sort of metal outer rib-cage. The sound of electricity crackled, the machine went _BOOOP_. Boop.

THen it flashed:

GREEN  
RED

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**Author:** ![Seeker\_of\_Truth\_and\_Beauty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@Seeker\_of\_Truth\_and\_Beauty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seeker_of_Truth_and_Beauty)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/345 "2009-02-19T03:03:57Z")

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SO anti-climactic.

I guess I was hoping for at least fireworks…

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/346 "2009-02-19T03:05:20Z")

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Woohoo! It’s Christmas!

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/347 "2009-02-19T03:07:46Z")

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> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> Woohoo! It’s Christmas!

Or perhaps Festivus.

Unless further information shows up, I suggest we proceed as agreed, find out what Green/Red means, and start discussing who to test and who to possibly lynch toMorrow.

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**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/348 "2009-02-19T03:21:48Z")

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I figured it would be useful to help organize info from the Testerizer and the lynchings and killings and what-not. Caveats that have been mentioned: there’s no guarantee that the testerizer is always accurate, or that it covers the alignments we think it does, yada yada yada.

I’m _assuming_ there are four possible colors: one for rancher, one for farmer, one for werewolf, and one for town. This chart is pretty much useless now, except for fantasizing about the best possible outcomes for the town. Ideally, we test/lynch scum two days in a row, and the day one scum poses as a rancher while the day 2 scum poses as a farmer. That’s also assuming that the tester utilizes four separate colors, and not 3 or 5. Guh.

[Oh yeah, the chart…](http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=werewolfmafiachart1fm4.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Seeker\_of\_Truth\_and\_Beauty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@Seeker\_of\_Truth\_and\_Beauty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seeker_of_Truth_and_Beauty)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/349 "2009-02-19T03:27:50Z")

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> [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](#):
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> I figured it would be useful to help organize info from the Testerizer and the lynchings and killings and what-not. Caveats that have been mentioned: there’s no guarantee that the testerizer is always accurate, or that it covers the alignments we think it does, yada yada yada.
> 
> I’m _assuming_ there are four possible colors: one for rancher, one for farmer, one for werewolf, and one for town. This chart is pretty much useless now, except for fantasizing about the best possible outcomes for the town. Ideally, we test/lynch scum two days in a row, and the day one scum poses as a rancher while the day 2 scum poses as a farmer. That’s also assuming that the tester utilizes four separate colors, and not 3 or 5. Guh.
> 
> [Oh yeah, the chart…](http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=werewolfmafiachart1fm4.jpg)

But – werewolves aren’t divided into Farmers & Ranchers; only townies.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/350 "2009-02-19T03:32:39Z")

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I just realized I should have voted with that fluff.

Vote november

Roast that zombie.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/351 "2009-02-19T03:38:39Z")

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> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> I just realized I should have voted with that fluff.
> 
> Vote november
> 
> Roast that zombie.

You mean to make that blue, as in a lynch vote, right?

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**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/352 "2009-02-19T03:38:45Z")

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Look, I put this thing together in a spreadsheet before work. Just black out those squares, or more accurately, imagine them as one square.

And if werewolves aren’t F/R, I guess that means there are only three colors (if the testerizer is accurate).

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**Author:** ![rexnervous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9c0ed/32.png) [@rexnervous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rexnervous)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/353 "2009-02-19T03:39:58Z")

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> [@Scuba\_Ben](#):
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> Or perhaps Festivus.
> 
> Unless further information shows up, I suggest we proceed as agreed, find out what Green/Red means, and start discussing who to test and who to possibly lynch toMorrow.

Does it make sense to begin discussing toMorrow before the wolves have made their move? The more info we provide them now, the more they have to influence their vote (and throw us off).

Newbie here, so my strategery may be misguided…but I’d suggest the exact opposite. We leave well enough alone until after toNight.

Or is that a problem in that we’re then eliminating info-gathering on our own end?

What’s the best play here?

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**Author:** ![Seeker\_of\_Truth\_and\_Beauty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@Seeker\_of\_Truth\_and\_Beauty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seeker_of_Truth_and_Beauty)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/354 "2009-02-19T03:42:31Z")

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> [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](#):
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> Look, I put this thing together in a spreadsheet before work. Just black out those squares, or more accurately, imagine them as one square.
> 
> And if werewolves aren’t F/R, I guess that means there are only three colors (if the testerizer is accurate).

I think there would have to be four colors; the machine gives out two each test; one color could signify Werewolf or Townie, the second color, for a Townie, could be R or F; for a Werewolf, the second color would be merely a placeholder.

I think. We can speculate more after lynching **november**.

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**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/355 "2009-02-19T03:44:34Z")

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Gah, I need to preview before I post. Three colors:

C1 for werewolves  
C2 for farmers  
C3 for ranchers

I’m going to have to redraw this whole thing, aren’t I . ☹

But yeah, the chart isn’t very useful right now. After a few days of information, we can start filling in squares with Ys and Ns. I’m taking it as a loose guideline for interpreting future info.

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**Author:** ![Seeker\_of\_Truth\_and\_Beauty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@Seeker\_of\_Truth\_and\_Beauty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seeker_of_Truth_and_Beauty)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/356 "2009-02-19T03:49:34Z")

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Maybe there has to be six colors. Or somewhere between three and six. Too early to speculate, again.

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**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/357 "2009-02-19T03:50:12Z")

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> [@rexnervous](#):
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> Does it make sense to begin discussing toMorrow before the wolves have made their move? The more info we provide them now, the more they have to influence their vote (and throw us off).
> 
> Newbie here, so my strategery may be misguided…but I’d suggest the exact opposite. We leave well enough alone until after toNight.
> 
> Or is that a problem in that we’re then eliminating info-gathering on our own end?
> 
> What’s the best play here?

I’m a noob too, but I agree: taking it one Day at a time makes sense. What happens Tonight greatly effectes what happens Tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/358 "2009-02-19T03:51:56Z")

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> [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](#):
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> Gah, I need to preview before I post. Three colors:
> 
> C1 for werewolves  
> C2 for farmers  
> C3 for ranchers
> 
> I’m going to have to redraw this whole thing, aren’t I . ☹
> 
> But yeah, the chart isn’t very useful right now. After a few days of information, we can start filling in squares with Ys and Ns. I’m taking it as a loose guideline for interpreting future info.

It’s a good effort, though. It’ll definitely help to have it mapped out when we know more. Good work, soldier.

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**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/359 "2009-02-19T03:56:52Z")

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Thanks for doing that, **Ichini Sanshigo**. I doubt we can be sure about anything with the testeriser yet. I’d guess there’re more than three colours though.

I also think we should wait on serious Day Two lynch discussion to avoid tipping our hand to the wolves too much. However, we shouldn’t stop talking completely! There is still plenty to discuss.

**vote november**

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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/360 "2009-02-19T04:03:25Z")

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Since the test has been complete, I am moving my vote for Today:

**unvote Lemur866  
vote november**

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