# Werewolf (Mafia)--The Split \[Signups--In progress\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 13, 2009, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692 "2009-02-13T15:44:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/581 "2009-02-24T02:31:17Z")
Okay. Since I know I’m a rancher, then I’m fine with being tested. Or testerized, as it were. ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/582 "2009-02-24T02:32:17Z")
> [@Justin\_Credible](#): > > You’ve got Daphne on there twice. And **Telcontar** ’s test-vote for FS is missing. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/583 "2009-02-24T02:34:10Z")
I promise nothing. Nothing! ---
**Author:** ![rexnervous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9c0ed/32.png) [@rexnervous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rexnervous)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/584 "2009-02-24T02:37:38Z")
According to **pedescribe** ’s latest tally (I think he counted \*\*DaphneBlack \*\*twice, when one should have been **Telcontar** ), the following people have not voted for Testing (with only 12 hours to go) \*\*Zeriel \*\*(interestingly, the “aggressive” experienced player) **Mahaloth** **Elendil’s Heir** **Lemur866** **[Undecided] Adrian** Just FYI It looks like, barring a last-minute shift or concerted effort, that **Freudian Slit** will be the testee. I am slowly being convinced that **Freudian Slit** is a rancher, but am not changing my vote. I promised on page 10 that I wouldn’t vote to lynch FS if the test colors were identical to **november** ’s. Looks like we’ll see tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/585 "2009-02-24T02:39:34Z")
**Lemur** ’s been subbed out for **MHaye** , FTR. ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/586 "2009-02-24T02:40:51Z")
I agree that the argument against **Seeker** is weak. I’d be happy testing either FS or **Telcontar**. I’ll keep my vote as is, I guess. Right now I’m a bit busy, but I’ll get back into it tonight or tomorrow (lower case letters) ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/587 "2009-02-24T02:48:11Z")
> [@rexnervous](#): > > It looks like, barring a last-minute shift or concerted effort, that **Freudian Slit** will be the testee. I am slowly being convinced that **Freudian Slit** is a rancher, but am not changing my vote. I promised on page 10 that I wouldn’t vote to lynch FS if the test colors were identical to **november** ’s. Looks like we’ll see tomorrow. Right. Ultimately I fear that Freudian Slit’s time will be short if she tests the same, but no sense lynching and giving the wolves essentially a free night kill (any confirmed town will undoubtedly be a target, sooner or later). Perhaps it would be prudent for us to discuss who to lynch in the case that Freudian Slit does match colors? (I plan to keep my lynch vote on if that’s not the case.) I’d really like to know why the people on rex’s list haven’t voted for at least testerizer until now; last minute votes are not pro-town, and I think we all deserve an explanation. Welcome MHaye, and grats Lemur on the new job! ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/588 "2009-02-24T02:57:48Z")
Yeah, and not voting at all is seriously not pro-town. I think we can give MHaye a bit of slack on this one but anyone else who doesn’t have a vote by the deadline will get a big ol’ :dubious: from me. ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/589 "2009-02-24T03:02:00Z")
And needless to say, anyone who doesn’t vote for a lynch, only more so. If Freudian does indeed match november’s colours, I will be tempted to vote to lynch a non-voter, on principle. Not voting (and in this case, not test-voting) is scummy, in my opinion; it’s scummier than just lurking. ---
**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/590 "2009-02-24T03:20:53Z")
> [@DaphneBlack](#): > > If Freudian does indeed match november’s colours, I will be tempted to vote to lynch a non-voter, on principle. Not voting (and in this case, not test-voting) is scummy, in my opinion; it’s scummier than just lurking. I think there’s something to this. Only about half the people have been actively involved today, and that worries me. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/591 "2009-02-24T03:29:19Z")
> [@rexnervous](#): > > \*\*Zeriel \*\*(interestingly, the “aggressive” experienced player) > **Mahaloth** > **Elendil’s Heir** > **Lemur866** > **[Undecided] Adrian** > > J You can take my name off the list, as I did vote rather early and removed my vote just a little bit ago. I’m not trying to avoid voting, and I have been quite involved today(and toDAY). 🙂 I’ll vote again now, though I absolutely agree we should not lynch Freudian if she/he comes up the same color as november. In fact, even if she/he does not come up with same colors, we should at least listen to him/her and try to see if there is a potential complication in the pattern(though at that point, lynching will be necessary to determine if that is the case). **vote Freudian Slit** By the way, it is rather disturbing that half the group is not that involved. I’m hoping the wolves are in that half. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![rexnervous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9c0ed/32.png) [@rexnervous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rexnervous)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/592 "2009-02-24T03:33:01Z")
> [@fluiddruid](#): > > Right. Ultimately I fear that Freudian Slit’s time will be short if she tests the same, but no sense lynching and giving the wolves essentially a free night kill (any confirmed town will undoubtedly be a target, sooner or later). > > Perhaps it would be prudent for us to discuss who to lynch in the case that Freudian Slit does match colors? (I plan to keep my lynch vote on if that’s not the case.) I’d really like to know why the people on rex’s list haven’t voted for at least testerizer until now; last minute votes are not pro-town, and I think we all deserve an explanation. > > Welcome MHaye, and grats Lemur on the new job! I don’t think we need to start discussing the next lynch until after the testerizer - it’s only a few hours now. It may add extra info that helps the wolves (for instance, if we suddenly go gung-ho for lynching the non-test-voters, that might spur them to ensure all of them vote in next couple hours). For me at least there begins to reach a point where adding discussion before a pivotal event only adds noise to the equation. YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/593 "2009-02-24T04:07:02Z")
> [@rexnervous](#): > > I don’t think we need to start discussing the next lynch until after the testerizer - it’s only a few hours now. It may add extra info that helps the wolves (for instance, if we suddenly go gung-ho for lynching the non-test-voters, that might spur them to ensure all of them vote in next couple hours). > > For me at least there begins to reach a point where adding discussion before a pivotal event only adds noise to the equation. YMMV. Yes, but it would be nice if they contributed before the decision was effectively made. next week we will have to think about them. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/594 "2009-02-24T06:07:59Z")
Sorry. I’ve been very busy these past few days. test Freudian Slit lynch Freudian Slit ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/595 "2009-02-24T06:29:04Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Sorry. I’ve been very busy these past few days. > > test Freudian Slit > lynch Freudian Slit You’re going to vote to lynch me before the tests have even come up? Good grief. That’s not suspicious at all, nope. ---
**Author:** ![\_Undecided\_Adrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/eada6e/32.png) [@\_Undecided\_Adrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_Undecided_Adrian)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/596 "2009-02-24T10:04:24Z")
> [@DaphneBlack](#): > > Oh, sorry, I do remember that. I read your post as saying you had another suspicion (that you hadn’t mentioned because you were waiting to see what others said). I see now that’s not what you meant. My apologies. Yeah, no worries. It’s only because nobody joined the original discussion one way or another and a recent summary about people’s actions left it out as well, I was a bit peeved already. It didn’t occur to me that my wording was too ambiguous. Anyway, regarding the vote: sorry that I waited so long, but I did not have a reason to go for one of the three potential testees and wanted to avoid just piling on without one, hence the question for suggestions. Thanks for your summation **Justin Credible** , but I was mainly asking for reasons beyond testerizer mechanics. Oh well, in that case I’ll get on the bandwagon anyway, hoping that I have explained myself sufficiently. Test **Freudian Slit** Lynch vote depends on the test result, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/597 "2009-02-24T14:34:33Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > You’re going to vote to lynch me before the tests have even come up? Good grief. That’s not suspicious at all, nope. I’m economical. I can always unvote. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/598 "2009-02-24T15:36:34Z")
Freudian Slit (9): Daphne Black, Fluiddruid, rexnervous, SoT&B, Justin Credible, Telcontar, Mahaloth, Elendil’s Heir, [Undecided] Adrian Telcontar (2): Jimmy Chitwood, Allwalker Seeker of Truth and Beauty (3): Freudian Slit, Ichini Sanshigo, Oredigger77 Freudian Slit (2): Fluiddruid, Elendil’s Heir Seeker of Truth and Beauty (1): Ichini Sanshigo Telcontar (1): Jimmy Chitwood ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/599 "2009-02-24T16:04:45Z")
> [@DaphneBlack](#): > > I think **Freudian’s** rise to the top hasn’t been as swift as you are making it seem. . I’m not sure what you mean by not as swift as I think, there was a three was tie as of post #535 by #539 FS was up by two votes. I mean sure the votes aren’t back to back but they were 4 minuets apart how much faster do you want? > [@DaphneBlack](#): > > I also think you are mischaracterising several things here. I 'me too’ed **Fluid** in the sense that I posted my vote shortly after she did – but I gave several reasons (and actually enumerated a few more later). You’re voting post quoted Fluid’s entire voting post and then let’s break down each sentence. 1) I agree with Fluid. 2) FS is keen to defend me and was trying to butter me up 3) FS is tentative and made a wishy-washy comment about your experience. #2 is just simplifying a paragraph of Fluid’s and I don’t think #1 is anything but a me too. Number three is new and different but doesn’t say anything. But you’re right you did give more accusations later; > [@DaphneBlack](#): > > I still think we should test **Freudian** : she’s claimed rancher, so she shouldn’t be too afraid of the test. If it’s the same, I doubt we’ll lynch her (and I certainly don’t think we _should_ in that case – if she’s scum and gets the same result as a townie the testeriser is worthless). If it’s different, either she’s lying or there’s more going on with the test than we thought. Either way, it’s a high percentage move in terms of potential information gained. So now it’s a good idea to test FS because you think we’ll gain information from the testerizer. This is completely different from your previous reasons and feels like to me that your looking for any reason because no matter who we test we will gain information. > [@DaphneBlack](#): > > **Telcontar** had also expressed some suspicion of **Freudian** before his vote. > > I also find your apparent acceptance of **rex’s** ‘case’ against **Freudian** weird – why is his bizarre theory sensible but my reasons (which are not ironclad or anything, but geez) bull? This seems like analysis that is trying to appear thorough and ‘concerned townie’ (oh no! mustn’t have a bandwagon!) but is actually just smudging people. You’re right my previous post was very similar to a smudge except that I didn’t imply any thing I simply stated that I think your case is bull and that it built momentum quickly. But there is no way to talk about multiple posters without making statements that aren’t backed up by a vote so sometimes that is what you have to do. > [@rexnervous](#): > > 1. DaphneBlack / Freudian Slit: In at least two instances, FS came to an immediate defense of DB when she was drawing attention. Now I posted way back when that I got a sense of “gamesmanship” from DB, but over time that was allayed. But FS’s posts made me wonder if they were working in tandem. Now DB has voted FS for testing, but I can’t shake the feeling that this is strategy - DB throws out a testerizer vote to throw suspicion at FS, then FS responding (again, very promptly) with a “I’m a townie, seriously” post. Grand game being that the testerizer vote doesn’t end up being FS, but DB and FS are now in the clear. Or maybe I’m overthinking it 🙂 > > So my vote could go any way, but no one has convinced me we shouldn’t do what I wrote a bit earlier, and vote experienced this round for the testerizer. You’re right Rex didn’t make a very strong case, let’s face it there are not strong cases yet. But you don’t see the difference between FS said something wishy-washy and we will learn from lynching her and Rex’s noting how the relationship has grown in his eyes? I don’t buy his case but there is something more there then a me too and a sentence. > [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > \*\*Oredigger77 \*\* > Your vote for **Seeker** is based on a smudge and a hunch, correct? Is it not the case that your more recent posts against the coalition voting for **Freudian** are a “smudge” in the same way? Or are your suspicions about those three, even though they’re more strongly voiced, not as strong as those about **Seeker**? You’re right and while I am typing this post I realized that Daphne has a much stronger case then Seeker. While I do think early game slips by noobs count a lot, I think that Seeker hasn’t made a second so while I will continue to watch my vote is going to go elsewhere. **Vote Dahpne** ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/600 "2009-02-24T16:08:05Z")
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