# Werewolf (Mafia)--The Split \[Signups--In progress\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 13, 2009, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692 "2009-02-13T15:44:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/741 "2009-02-27T20:54:24Z")

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Well, bother. Sorry, FS, nice playing with you.

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**Author:** ![Seeker\_of\_Truth\_and\_Beauty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@Seeker\_of\_Truth\_and\_Beauty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seeker_of_Truth_and_Beauty)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/742 "2009-02-27T20:57:43Z")

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Okay, I need to get _really_ drunk toNight.

Barkeep, give anything, the stronger, the better – and keep 'em coming.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/743 "2009-02-28T02:29:09Z")

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So…any hauntings tonight?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/744 "2009-02-28T02:46:56Z")

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Shit. Sorry about that, FS.

:: locks door, loads rifle with silver bullets and sits down with a big pot of strong coffee to wait for the morning ::

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**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/745 "2009-02-28T03:54:46Z")

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Huh.

Now I’m too depressed to drink.

Wait… that’s not how it works…

I’d like a full bodied red… but first, I’ll grab some wine.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/746 "2009-03-01T04:38:23Z")

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More than 24 hours without a post. We all really need a drink to get through this night.

Anyone up for a Guinness?

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/747 "2009-03-01T06:30:42Z")

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Oh, yeah. Hauntings. WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

I’d like, “I TOLD YOU I WAS A RANCHER” on my gravestone, please!

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**Author:** ![rexnervous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9c0ed/32.png) [@rexnervous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rexnervous)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/748 "2009-03-01T14:21:28Z")

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:: peeks out from cleverly concealed trapdoor ::

After nearly getting alcohol poisoning last Night, I decided to forgo any drinking toNight, but couldn’t face hanging around in the open. Thus, my lack of communication. Raising hand to say “I’m still here”

:: ducks below and closes cleverly concealed trapdoor ::

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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/749 "2009-03-01T14:52:45Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Oh, yeah. Hauntings. WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
> 
> I’d like, “I TOLD YOU I WAS A RANCHER” on my gravestone, please!

You know, if you’re going to sass the living, I’m putting “Free Trial Acai Berry Lose Weight Sex Machine!!! Ask Me How” on your tombstone.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/750 "2009-03-01T16:40:28Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> So…any hauntings tonight?

\<haunting\>  
I sense a tiny disturbance in the Force.  
\</haunting\>

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**Author:** ![Seeker\_of\_Truth\_and\_Beauty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@Seeker\_of\_Truth\_and\_Beauty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seeker_of_Truth_and_Beauty)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/751 "2009-03-01T16:48:03Z")

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…I see dead people.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/752 "2009-03-01T16:53:17Z")

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- puts hands over own eyes \*

You can’t see me!

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/753 "2009-03-01T21:05:38Z")

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I am back!

Okay.

Day 3. As the mystic force ruling over the town stopped joyriding through the sky, he brought a body with him.

Ichini Sanshigo, a Farmer Role Cop, is dead.

Day. The day ends Friday, 4:00 PM EST.

Testerizer happens Wedensday, 4:00 PM EST in order to even out the timing.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/754 "2009-03-01T21:11:37Z")

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Damn, it’s time to get on the ball folks were down 4 townies. I guess it’s time for a reread.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/755 "2009-03-01T22:20:44Z")

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So…any ideas what a cop is? When I’ve played Mafia offline(with groups around 15), cops can ask each night if one person is a “mafia” or “wolf” or whatever.

I guess Ichini had that opportunity, which means we need to re-examine his posts.

Also, we’ve killed two ranchers and they’ve killed two farmers, right? What about this?

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/756 "2009-03-01T22:29:27Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> So…any ideas what a cop is? When I’ve played Mafia offline(with groups around 15), cops can ask each night if one person is a “mafia” or “wolf” or whatever.
> 
> I guess Ichini had that opportunity, which means we need to re-examine his posts.
> 
> Also, we’ve killed two ranchers and they’ve killed two farmers, right? What about this?

A cop is an investigator type. They can investigate someone’s alignment.

In games like this, with two possible alignment (Town/Wolf and Farmer/Rancher) cops may be able to investigate one or the other. Zeriel has already claimed to be a Rancher who can investigate whether someone is a Rancher or a Farmer. Ichini may have been a Farmer-based version of the role (something that has already been speculated about).

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/757 "2009-03-01T22:35:53Z")

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A cop? WTH? This is interesting…

Farewell, **Ichini**. We hardly knew ye.

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**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/758 "2009-03-01T22:36:37Z")

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Avenge meeee! AVENGE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

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**Author:** ![rexnervous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9c0ed/32.png) [@rexnervous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rexnervous)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/759 "2009-03-01T23:27:33Z")

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> [@MHaye](#):
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> A cop is an investigator type. They can investigate someone’s alignment.
> 
> In games like this, with two possible alignment (Town/Wolf and Farmer/Rancher) cops may be able to investigate one or the other. Zeriel has already claimed to be a Rancher who can investigate whether someone is a Rancher or a Farmer. Ichini may have been a Farmer-based version of the role (something that has already been speculated about).

Ok - something’s bothering me. Let’s assume that Zeriel’s role (“investigator”) and Ichini’s role (“Role Cop”) are the same.

Why would Zeriel make the claim that he has this role but not call it by its assigned name?

> [@Zeriel](#):
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> snip…
> 
> By the by, folks, I think I have an important bit of information I want to throw out there–I’m a pseudo-useless power role. Namely, **I’m a town alignment investigator** –I can submit a name nightly and find out ONLY whether they’re farmer or rancher. Needless to say, to preserve my own longevity I’m not revealing which of the two I am.
> 
> The reason I’m coming out with this? It’s expressly stated in my PM that the werewolves DO have farmer/rancher identities. Firstly, this prevents me from investigating to find them. Secondly, it colors our interpretation of the testerizer results.
> 
> Given the way discussion has gone today, I figured that was worth throwing out a claim–especially since as far as I’m concerned, I’m a vanilla for the purposes of the main town vs. scum game–it’s only the farmer vs. rancher game my power can affect.

(bolding mine)

It could be innocent, but it just strikes me as … weird … that if someone’s identifying the role they have they wouldn’t use the name given by the mod.

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**Author:** ![rexnervous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9c0ed/32.png) [@rexnervous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rexnervous)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/760 "2009-03-01T23:28:57Z")

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NETA

I updated Scuba’s Google doc

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