# Werewolf (Mafia)--The Split \[Signups--In progress\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 13, 2009, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692 "2009-02-13T15:44:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 39
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/761 "2009-03-02T00:22:08Z")
> [@rexnervous](#): > > It could be innocent, but it just strikes me as … weird … that if someone’s identifying the role they have they wouldn’t use the name given by the mod. Well, the easiest thing to do would be to ask.\*\* Zeriel\*\*, why call the “cop” job an town alignment investigator instead of simply cop? It seems odd. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/762 "2009-03-02T00:25:47Z")
By the way, I’m betting the wolves have a “cop” or some similar power role. I bet they “sniffed” out Ichini’s status. ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/763 "2009-03-02T03:56:47Z")
Hi everybody! And ouch. Too many townies down. I’m back from out of town and all caught up. I’m sorry that I was wrong about you, **Freudian**. However, I hope this makes the people who were convinced we were some sort of scum tag-team think twice about all their assumptions. One thing: **rex** , you seemed convinced that your earlier idea to this end was wrong – before Freudian was lynched. Why were you so sure before her alignment had been revealed, that you had been wrong? With regard to our late lamented **Ichini** , and the **Zeriel** issue. I’m actually much more inclined to believe Zeriel’s claim with the death of Ichini - that is, with regard to his role, not his alignment. Since ‘Role Cop’ is, at least to me, a lot vaguer than ‘Alignment investigator’, it doesn’t particularly bother me that that is how he described it. However, the fact that a townie cop role died shortly after **Zeriel** announced his role is certainly weird. I’m not sure what it means yet, but it is weird. Since it now appears that the testeriser will not be very good at confirming townies (or at least it will take a long time for us to be confident of its results in any way), I’m currently thinking that we should not rigidly adhere to the lynch-test paradigm. With at least one living alignment cop (probable) we have other possibilities for handling testeriser results. With regard to suspicions, I have a suggestion. I think too many people are choosing not to say whom they are suspicious of, because that tends to attract negative attention. I think it would be a pro-town move if we all listed, say, our top two suspects at this time, with some sort of explanation as to why we find them suspicious. I’m not saying everyone has to do elaborate multi-quote pages as to why, but some concrete data as to who we are suspicious of would really be good. Why? First, because scum will be forced to lie, and as I have said, outright lies are hard to do well. Second, it would encourage everyone to at least participate minimally, since if we agreed to do it, not participating would be super-scummy. And third, it would help us look beyond the testeriser for this early part of the day, and (probably) prevent an early bandwagon from taking over and allowing people not to take responsibility for votes. I’m open to being told this is a stupid idea, as long as there’s good reasons behind it, but I think it could be really helpful. ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/764 "2009-03-02T07:04:09Z")
The only good thing about this game so far is the farmers and ranchers are still balanced… if one side becomes stronger than the other it could disrupt the town’s ability to function as a team. But that is not much of a concellation for losing 4 townies, 0 wolves. One question - why didn’t the wolves target **Zeriel** , the one player who claimed they had a role? Knocking out special role powers helps the wolves more than an ordinary townie kill. They ended up doing just that with **Ichini** , RIP, but they couldn’t have known he had powers? Could they? I agree with **Daphne** , for what it’s worth. We need to start slinging mud, and slinging it hard. I have been reasonably vocal with my suspicions, but with a fresh kill on our hands it is time to indulge in some rereading. Will point the finger again soon. ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/765 "2009-03-02T12:11:13Z")
First observations: **FS** was acting suspiciously last Day, IMO, but only in her seeming nonchalance about the prospect of being hanged. The attitude of “well, I’m innocent, I want to live, but whatever” was just bizarre. Bizarre, but as it turns out, not scummy. So, in that spirit, we turn to the very first votes, before she started (again, IMO) acting suspiciously. First, there is - > [@fluiddruid](#): > > We haven’t got a ton of information to go on due to the november vote, so I’ve been re-reading the thread and of course there aren’t any smoking guns. However, Freudian Slit, I don’t really care for your ‘me too’ post immediately above – echoing others’ opinions, particularly in matters unlikely to attract criticism, seems a good enough scum tell to me as any we’ve had so far. I went back and read through the thread paying particular attention to you. You’ve played before, IIRC, and you’re playing your hand very close to the vest. > > The only remotely divisive thing you’ve said was defending Daphne, which while I don’t take issue with per se, was not really breaking new ground (after all, of course, we don’t have a lot of evidence on Day 1, so arguing on anyone’s behalf can seem to others like giving good advice and therefore boost their confidence in you). Other than that, you’ve posted a middle-range number of posts with little new content and even less to attract attention. That seems to me to be, in every substantial sense, lurking; you’re playing awfully conservatively for a townie, and adding few of your own thoughts. In a game without significant power roles, you’re not a Doctor trying to avoid attention, so I think this is the best vote I can make right now. > > vote Freudian Slit > test Freudian Slit The “me too” in the first paragraph refers to this post - > [@Freudian Slit](#): > > I agree that if we test, we should kill. If we don’t, we’ve wasted valuable information. Granted, we were told that the testerizer may not be as important as we think it is, but so far it’s the only really concrete thing we have to go on. So I agree that all role claiming and supposed role claiming should come before a test. If that is "me too"ing, then most of us are guilty of that. The second paragraph, though, is fair enough - **FS** expressed little opinion, except for defending **Daphne**. Speaking of **Daphne** … > [@Daphne](#): > > Fluid, you’ve hit on something which had been bugging me about Freudian’s play yesterday. She seemed pretty keen to defend me, almost like she was trying to butter me up (esp. since at that time I was being attacked pretty hard). But on the other hand she seemed really tentative; she also made a comment (I can’t find it now) about my experience level that pinged me somewhat, that sounded very wishy-washy (so that if I became a target later she could point back to it as a more long-standing suspicion?). > > test Freudian Slit The post she couldn’t find is 276… > [@Freudian Slit](#): > > Daphne is kind of reactive, but I was that way too when people falsely (or…not falsely) accused me. It was definitely my knee jerk reaction to go after anyone who voted for me, but I don’t do that anymore. > > Then again, as others point out, she has played before. So, hmmm. Then again, Seeker has never played before so I shouldn’t be hard on her either. Though maybe we should just take the whole who’s a newbie and who’s exp thing out of the equation, because this could get crazy. > > Honestly, you’re both being defensive. So far I don’t think it means anything. I definitely think we must test someone. So far, might as well be november. From here it kind of snowballs, **FS** is tested, **FS** is lynched. Is there anything scummy in these votes by **fluid** and **Daphne**? I don’t know. Maybe, maybe not. Nothing they say is out of the question - **FS** was posting a lot while saying nothing. I’d say **Daphne** _voting_ for **FS** was an overreaction, but she certainly had reason to be suspicious. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/766 "2009-03-02T13:34:36Z")
Hey, **MHaye** , you did it AGAIN. That is, I’ve been trying to be pretty careful to claim neither rancher nor farmer. Where’d you get that I was claimed as a “rancher”? testerize MHaye. On the Ichigo issue, I didn’t claim to be an alignment cop because my role PM calls me an “investigator”. ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/767 "2009-03-02T15:09:54Z")
**Zeriel** , I noticed that too. I thought I’d missed something. What do you mean he did it again? Where is everybody? ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/768 "2009-03-02T15:14:48Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > On the Ichigo issue, I didn’t claim to be an alignment cop because my role PM calls me an “investigator”. I’m willing to take this at face value, your role is an investigator but I still don’t think it makes you necessarily town. > [@DaphneBlack](#): > > With regard to our late lamented **Ichini** , and the **Zeriel** issue. I’m actually much more inclined to believe Zeriel’s claim with the death of Ichini - that is, with regard to his role, not his alignment. Since ‘Role Cop’ is, at least to me, a lot vaguer than ‘Alignment investigator’, it doesn’t particularly bother me that that is how he described it. > > [snip] > > With regard to suspicions, I have a suggestion. I think too many people are choosing not to say whom they are suspicious of, because that tends to attract negative attention. I think it would be a pro-town move if we all listed, say, our top two suspects at this time, with some sort of explanation as to why we find them suspicious. I’m not saying everyone has to do elaborate multi-quote pages as to why, but some concrete data as to who we are suspicious of would really be good. Why? First, because scum will be forced to lie, and as I have said, outright lies are hard to do well. Second, it would encourage everyone to at least participate minimally, since if we agreed to do it, not participating would be super-scummy. And third, it would help us look beyond the testeriser for this early part of the day, and (probably) prevent an early bandwagon from taking over and allowing people not to take responsibility for votes. > > I’m open to being told this is a stupid idea, as long as there’s good reasons behind it, but I think it could be really helpful. I think that listing your suspicions is a fantastic idea, which is why I tried to get it started yesterday. Hope you have better luck that I did. Just to keep people up to date my suspicions haven’t changed they are; Seeker, Daphne, and Telcontar. I don’t know why Ichini’s death would do anything to strengthen Z’s claim. First of all a know power role was passed over for a kill, secondly town cop and investigator are different roles, both by name and Z’s later claim, so the existence of one does nothing to prove the other. What Ichini’s death does do is strengthen his list of suspects. Not only because I agree with them but because he could have been providing us with people he has investigated. Listing scum as scum is a good way to get killed. To that end lets see who he suspected. > [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](#): > > - I’m honestly not sure about **Freudian Slit’s** wolfiness. I’m more certain that **Seeker** and/or **Telcontar** like to howl at the moon. Even though the tide is pretty much against **Freudian Slit** , even though she’s the most rational choice for lynching this time around, I still have a very bad feeling about it. So FS was probably town and Seeker and Telcontar are scum. We know the first checked out so let’s investigate the second. **Vote Seeker** ---
**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/769 "2009-03-02T15:42:15Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > Hey, **MHaye** , you did it AGAIN. > > That is, I’ve been trying to be pretty careful to claim neither rancher nor farmer. Where’d you get that I was claimed as a “rancher”? > > On the Ichigo issue, I didn’t claim to be an alignment cop because my role PM calls me an “investigator”. What is your exact Role title? You can put a star in the place of Farmer/Rancher if you like. > [@Oredigger77](#): > > I’m willing to take this at face value, your role is an investigator but I still don’t think it makes you necessarily town. > > I think that listing your suspicions is a fantastic idea, which is why I tried to get it started yesterday. Hope you have better luck that I did. Just to keep people up to date my suspicions haven’t changed they are; Seeker, Daphne, and Telcontar. > > What Ichini’s death does do is strengthen his list of suspects. Not only because I agree with them but because he could have been providing us with people he has investigated. Listing scum as scum is a good way to get killed. To that end lets see who he suspected. > > So FS was probably town and Seeker and Telcontar are scum. We know the first checked out so let’s investigate the second. You’re not giving the mafia much credit here. Killing the player who is strongly going after you is a terrible move for the mafia. Also you’re basically listing the top posters, which goes back to Daphne’s point about the apparent safety in not saying much. ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/770 "2009-03-02T16:04:28Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > I think that listing your suspicions is a fantastic idea, which is why I tried to get it started yesterday. Hope you have better luck that I did. Just to keep people up to date my suspicions haven’t changed they are; Seeker, Daphne, and Telcontar. OK, that’s at least one person on board. I’d really strongly urge everyone to make their thoughts known. There is pretty much no pro-town reason not to at this point. We are four townies down, which leaves us at (most likely) 10-4 or (again, probably) 5-5-4. This is pretty serious. If we don’t lynch scum today we’ll be in serious trouble. > [@](#): > > I don’t know why Ichini’s death would do anything to strengthen Z’s claim. First of all a know power role was passed over for a kill, secondly town cop and investigator are different roles, both by name and Z’s later claim, so the existence of one does nothing to prove the other. > > What Ichini’s death does do is strengthen his list of suspects. Not only because I agree with them but because he could have been providing us with people he has investigated. Listing scum as scum is a good way to get killed. To that end lets see who he suspected. > > So FS was probably town and Seeker and Telcontar are scum. We know the first checked out so let’s investigate the second. I didn’t mean to imply that Ichini’s death strengthened Z’s claim to be town, but that now we know that a power role (and a power role of that kind) is in the game, it makes sense that someone else would also have that role. I agree that Ichini’s death makes his suspicions worthy of more weight, but I don’t think that he could have possibly investigated three people yet… this is only Day Three now, with a Day One start. So I don’t think we can take his list as gospel. There’s a good bet that he found something in there though. I think that between **Seeker** and **Telcontar** , Telcontar is the more suspicious. His attacks on me were not convincing nor original; he doesn’t seem to have really looked much at most of the players in the game. His no-lynch idea was anti-town; his attitude seems to be that we should all just listen to him and follow his ideas. Continuing to try to bully people into applying his theories (which, as **fluiddruid** pointed out, only make sense in a purely random context) on Day Three is not helping and is pretty scummy. It’s possible that he is just a townie who is very confident in his plan and I’d have to agree the way we’ve been playing the game so far is not so good, and his early volunteering to be tested makes me doubt a bit, but he’s my top suspicion at this point. **test Telcontar** I’m sure some people will think this is OMGUS, but his suspicion of me is actually a really small part of my scumdar going off around him. ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/771 "2009-03-02T16:25:57Z")
With regard to whomelse I’m suspicious of, it’s those on whom I have no read at all. Either because they have posted too little or because what they have posted has left no impression. They are (mostly) not lurking exactly, but I’m by no means sure what they think about anything at this point. I’d be happy to testerise any of these folk as well as **Telcontar** : \*\*Jimmy Chitwood Mahaloth Elendil’s Heir \*\* And to a lesser extent, I also have ??? in my notes next to **LemurHaye** and [**Undecided] Adrian**. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/772 "2009-03-02T16:39:21Z")
> [@Telcontar](#): > > You’re not giving the mafia much credit here. Killing the player who is strongly going after you is a terrible move for the mafia. Also you’re basically listing the top posters, which goes back to Daphne’s point about the apparent safety in not saying much. To be fair I’m going after the #T1, #5, and #6 posters (based on overall of players) so I’m not exactly just going after the most active. But the problem is that unless we choose to punish people for not posting there really isn’t much to talk about for the non-posters. I don’t think it’s a good thing but there is nothing to do but look at posts so the people who post more with have more to look at. > [@DaphneBlack](#): > > I didn’t mean to imply that Ichini’s death strengthened Z’s claim to be town, but that now we know that a power role (and a power role of that kind) is in the game, it makes sense that someone else would also have that role. I understand what your saying but what I’m saying this that I don’t think that Ichini’s and Z’s roles correlate at all one was an investigator that finds farmer/rancher status. The other was a cop who presumably finds town/wolf status. There is a big difference. > [@](#): > > I agree that Ichini’s death makes his suspicions worthy of more weight, but I don’t think that he could have possibly investigated three people yet… this is only Day Three now, with a Day One start. So I don’t think we can take his list as gospel. There’s a good bet that he found something in there though. You’re right he defiantly didn’t investigate three but if you read his post again what he said was he wasn’t sure of FS but leaned toward town while he was confident of the furriness of the other two. I’d bet he investigated two people and was confident that his result was correct. ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/773 "2009-03-02T16:43:43Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > I understand what your saying but what I’m saying this that I don’t think that Ichini’s and Z’s roles correlate at all one was an investigator that finds farmer/rancher status. The other was a cop who presumably finds town/wolf status. There is a big difference. Ah, I see. I suppose that there isn’t necessarily a correlation, other than that power roles do apparently exist. > [@](#): > > You’re right he defiantly didn’t investigate three but if you read his post again what he said was he wasn’t sure of FS but leaned toward town while he was confident of the furriness of the other two. I’d bet he investigated two people and was confident that his result was correct. You could be right about that. **Oredigger** , if you don’t mind, what do you think of the three other folks I listed? Of the lower posters, does anyone stand out as suspicious to you? ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/774 "2009-03-02T18:17:04Z")
> [@DaphneBlack](#): > > **Zeriel** , I noticed that too. I thought I’d missed something. > > What do you mean he did it again? Last game I was in with him, he was a scum detective who (whether or not it was an accident had some dispute) also slipped on a similar distinction (saying Hal had claimed Alpha Town when Hal had only claimed vanilla and not an alpha/beta status). > [@Telcontar](#): > > What is your exact Role title? You can put a star in the place of Farmer/Rancher if you like. “Investigator \*” ---
**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/775 "2009-03-02T18:29:35Z")
> [@DaphneBlack](#): > > I think that between **Seeker** and **Telcontar** , Telcontar is the more suspicious. His attacks on me were not convincing nor original; he doesn’t seem to have really looked much at most of the players in the game. His no-lynch idea was anti-town; his attitude seems to be that we should all just listen to him and follow his ideas. Continuing to try to bully people into applying his theories (which, as **fluiddruid** pointed out, only make sense in a purely random context) on Day Three is not helping and is pretty scummy. As I said, I’m not going to argue this anymore this game. You’re either not paying attention or deliberately misrepresenting my argument and it’s not worth pressing the point. You are, however, wrong that it was an anti-town suggestion. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/776 "2009-03-02T18:32:42Z")
> [@DaphneBlack](#): > > You could be right about that. **Oredigger** , if you don’t mind, what do you think of the three other folks I listed? Of the lower posters, does anyone stand out as suspicious to you? Well, I’ve finally completed a reread of EH. You might have a point there. Here is a quick summary of what I’ve found. Total of 18 posts since the game started, 5 of those have been night fluff. Of EH’s two votes (posts #214 and #594) no reasons have been give for those votes and both times he was pressed for information. After the first vote he was pushed twice about reasons behind his vote. The first reason he gave was he disagreed with lynching and testing the same person and second reason was that he had read posts, had a hunch and trusted certain players that he wouldn’t reveal. After his second vote he was questioned twice this time he stated that he was unable to vote the lynch part if he wanted to, and then he stated that he stood by his vote after FS’s colors came back screwy. These 11 posts (5 Night fluff, 6 vote related) make up a majority of his posting. The rest was as follows; a Me Too, stating there are many more town then wolves, welcoming Ichini, stating that only want to state his certainties and claimed farmer, stating that he only claimed farmer because Tel did, backed out of farmer claim and stated that he has hunches. Basically there are only three posts this entire game by EH that have content and one of those three contradicts another of those. I don’t think that this is enough to build a case on but I think that EH should be watched closely. Thanks Daphne for pointing him out. ---
**Author:** ![\_Undecided\_Adrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/eada6e/32.png) [@\_Undecided\_Adrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_Undecided_Adrian)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/777 "2009-03-02T19:11:49Z")
Sorry for not posting more, guys. I’m preparing for exams right now, starting next week I should be able to be more active again. I agree that listing everybody’s suspicions is a good thing. Mine are: - **fluiddruid** , for her controversy with **lemur** on day one. Since nobody has been following that and **lemur** has been subbed out, I don’t expect to be able to make a case out of it, but I still believe there was something fishy going on and continue to list it in case there is independent evidence coming up. - **telcontar** , for his bad idea of waiting with the lynch and his aggressive discussion style. **Ichini** also implicated him, which of course is a I-know-you-know-I-know situation: the Night kill obviously makes **Ichinis** targets suspicious, which could mean the wolves cast suspicion on them, but also could mean that they are wolves and want us to think that. - **seeker** , for similar reasons, minus the lynch moratorium story. Another thing: did you guys notice that the colors **pedescribe** uses for his announcements are different? Could it be that there is a hint for the testerizer buried there? The announcements for **Ichini** and **Scuba\_Ben** , both farmers, were blue, **Freudian Slit** and **november** , both ranchers, were green. Of course, since we lynched both the ranchers and the wolves got both the farmers, it could also be for that reason… ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/778 "2009-03-02T22:19:03Z")
Sorry for not posting enough today. I teach and on days like today, I had no chance to sit down and review this thread. I’ve read anything and am prepared to give my suspects, though I am very open to other views. I suspect: **Telcontar** : While he answered questions posed at him yesterDay, I still suspect him. His aggressiveness unsettles me and I find the idea of waiting to lynch to be weak(at best) **Seeker of Truth and Beauty** : I’ve had him/her as a suspect for a long time, and Ichini’s death makes me think that she took him out because of his suspicions. I have more ideas, but am prepared to test either of these. I am not attached to the idea of lynching who we test unless we can understand the testerizer or have other reasons to lynch that person. For now, I vote: **test Telcontar** If people are dedicated to testing Seeker, I’m fine with that as well and can switch my vote if need be. I just don’t want to forget to vote at all. ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/779 "2009-03-02T22:52:13Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > **Seeker of Truth and Beauty** : I’ve had him/her as a suspect for a long time, and Ichini’s death makes me think that she took him out because of his suspicions. I don’t want to get into a ‘scum would never do that’ frame of mind, but doesn’t that seem a bit obvious? Also, why do you say ‘she (Seeker’s a he, btw) took him out’? That seems a weird way to phrase it. We’ve got to remember the scum have the advantage of working together as a team. Who, of the lower-volume posters, do you ( **Mahaloth** ) find most suspicious? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/780 "2009-03-03T01:21:45Z")
> [@DaphneBlack](#): > > I don’t want to get into a ‘scum would never do that’ frame of mind, but doesn’t that seem a bit obvious? Also, why do you say ‘she (Seeker’s a he, btw) took him out’? That seems a weird way to phrase it. We’ve got to remember the scum have the advantage of working together as a team. > > Who, of the lower-volume posters, do you ( **Mahaloth** ) find most suspicious? I have no idea why I phrased that in such a weird way. I meant “they” instead of “she” with “they” being the wolves. I don’t think it seems that obvious for Ichini to be taken out for his comment on Tel and Seeker. If even one of them is a wolf, it seems a smart thing to do. Of the lower volume posters? I honestly don’t know. How do you evaluate the lower volume posters? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692.md?page=38) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692.md?page=40)