# Werewolf (Mafia)--The Split \[Signups--In progress\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 13, 2009, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692 "2009-02-13T15:44:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/981 "2009-03-06T03:26:56Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#):
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> Then **AllWalker** accuses **Telcontar** and calls him pendo, which I don’t know what that means.

Pendo is the lojban word for friend. It is the only lojban I know. I figured throwing it around with some French would be a nice touch.

> [@](#):
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> **AllWalker** asks him a direct question in #797 about a point **T** had made regarding rancher/farmer balance, but receives no answer.

Very true. For those too lazy to check, **Tel** made the point that the wolves seem to be killing in such a way as to keep both town factions equal, to their advantage. I pointed out that it would be to their advantage to keep the factions unequal, to further the rift within the town. And as noted, I got no response.

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> Enter then the **Seeker** clusterfuck, and we’re up to date.

Yes we are. Impressively done, **Jimmy**.

> [@Daphne](#):
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> Jimmy and AllWalker I’m not sure of. They’ve been pretyt helpful but rarely gotten into controversy (though I see Jimmy is taking up arms against Telcontar).

Thanks!

Unless you’re a wolf… I don’t want to be helpful to them…

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/982 "2009-03-06T03:42:33Z")

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> [@DaphneBlack](#):
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> (though I see Jimmy is taking up arms against Telcontar).

And by opposing, end him!

Well, nobody else is saying much. I’ll get me coat.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/983 "2009-03-06T13:40:41Z")

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> [@DaphneBlack](#):
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> **Mahaloth** , I looked back over your posts yesterday and nothing particularly scummy or townie really jumped out at me. who are your top suspects at the moment, other than Seeker or Telcontar?

I don’t have an adequate case for anyone else right now. Everything else is mainly vibes.

Jimmy, your recap was great.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/984 "2009-03-06T14:05:14Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I don’t have an adequate case for anyone else right now. Everything else is mainly vibes.
> 
> Jimmy, your recap was great.

I’d have to agree. Still scratching my head. These werewolves are \*%&#&! elusive.

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**Author:** ![rexnervous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9c0ed/32.png) [@rexnervous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rexnervous)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/985 "2009-03-06T14:08:33Z")

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With 3 hours to go, looks like Seeker is dead-man walking, so we’ll know soon enough. But i will be shocked if he’s a wolf - not to beat a dead horse, but what possible value is there for the wolves? Not only a dead wolf, but we would also have a very likely read on the Testerizer.

Shocked, but also as the vote won’t change, extremely hopeful he comes up wolf too.

But I’m not going to pile on. I’ve made my case as to not voting for him, and will stand on principle.  
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Vote Elendil’s Heir\*\*

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/986 "2009-03-06T14:42:31Z")

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> [@rexnervous](#):
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> Shocked, but also as the vote won’t change, extremely hopeful he comes up wolf too.
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> But I’m not going to pile on. I’ve made my case as to not voting for him, and will stand on principle.  
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> Vote Elendil’s Heir\*\*

I get it completely. However, have you made your case to vote for Elendil? If so, can you link to it?

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/987 "2009-03-06T14:52:29Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I’d have to agree. Still scratching my head. These werewolves are \*%&#&! elusive.

“We seek him here, we seek him there  
Those Frenchies seek him everywhere!  
Is he in heaven? Or is he in hell?  
That damned Elusive Pimpernel?”

For some reason I’m getting a vision of you taunting us just like Percy was.

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**Author:** ![rexnervous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9c0ed/32.png) [@rexnervous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rexnervous)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/988 "2009-03-06T15:18:17Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I get it completely. However, have you made your case to vote for Elendil? If so, can you link to it?

I realize this is an anti-town thing to do, but given being stuck w/ family on vacation and as I’ve previously said this week ain’t good, I can’t go back and find everything that points me to him right now.

And i’ll admit it’s as much ‘vibe’ as anything else.

But from his posts I see virtually nothing of substance, a lot of me-too-ism, not responding to direct questions. And I still go back to his admittance of being a farmer way back at the beginning of the game.

Seems like Elendil is being very circumspect in what he is saying - except when he wants to throw out something that might paint him as a townie. Circumspect \<\> “hey, I’m a farmer”

But again, nothing concrete. He’s just one of the three that (outside of Telcontar) I mentioned yesterday.

Will try to post more prior to vote finality, but am heading to a family breakfast.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/989 "2009-03-06T15:28:43Z")

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No one seems to want to join me in voting for Tel. I still think its a bad idea to lynch Seeker. so I’m going to rely on my case in #776 and switch my vote from number 2 on my list to number 3 and

Untove Telcontar  
Vote EH

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/990 "2009-03-06T16:00:18Z")

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SoT&B (11): Telcontar, fluiddruid, Jimmy Chitwood, [Undecided] Adrian, AllWalker, Justin Credible, Zeriel, Mahaloth, Mhaye, DaphneBlack, Elindil’s Heir  
Telcontar (1): Oredigger77  
Elindil’s Heir (1): rexnervous

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/991 "2009-03-06T16:04:35Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> Telcontar (1): Oredigger77

Oh come on it was a typo

Unvote Telcontar  
Vote EH

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**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/992 "2009-03-06T16:24:34Z")

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This whole Seeker thing has set my brain askew. He’s going down for sure, it looks like. I am equally convinced he’s a lying townie or a nutso wolf, but I can’t help but think that a nutso wolf would have at some point been told by his colleagues to reign it in.

Will the town be better off without Seeker? Almost certainly. But we are so perilously close to LyLo…

If Seeker is indeed a wolf I’ll be thrilled, but I’ll be surprised.

In the spirit of following my own advice: I have been suspicious of Elendil for a long time, and I see he’s got a few votes now. At this point, forty minutes before the deadline, I suppose this is a protest vote, really.

**unvote Seeker  
vote Elendil’s Heir**

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/993 "2009-03-06T16:35:04Z")

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SoT&B (10): Telcontar, fluiddruid, Jimmy Chitwood, [Undecided] Adrian, AllWalker, Justin Credible, Zeriel, Mahaloth, Mhaye, Elindil’s Heir  
Elindil’s Heir (3): rexnervous, Oredigger77, DaphneBlack

> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> Oh come on it was a typo
> 
> Unvote Telcontar  
> Vote EH

Sorry about that, I didn’t preview.

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/994 "2009-03-06T16:52:46Z")

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Sorry, I missed this with my read this morning.

> [@DaphneBlack](#):
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> MHaye, you do know Seeker claimed Farmer, right? Why do you say you’ll be disappointed if he turns up rancher?

Because it will give us less information than either a Wolf or Farmer death.

Seeker’s claims mean I simply don’t trust _either_ of them until he’s dead and Pedescribe verifies them.

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**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/995 "2009-03-06T16:56:27Z")

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Ah, I see – I thought you were misremembering (and considering other ‘issues’ you’ve had, that would have been odd).

It would be even weirder if a town Seeker claimed Farmer and was actually a rancher…oy.

You don’t trust either of who?

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/996 "2009-03-06T17:04:36Z")

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Seeker of Truth and Beauty, an Ordinary Farmer, is dead.

☹

Night. No strategy.

Night ends Noon EST Sunday.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/997 "2009-03-06T17:24:28Z")

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Bugger.

I think the only cure is straight Everclear for the whole town maybe come morning we won’t remember.

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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/998 "2009-03-06T17:27:55Z")

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Well, _bugger_. Now we’re right back where we started.

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**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/999 "2009-03-06T17:29:05Z")

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Bloody hell. Even the mod is sad for us.  
Another fortified ale, barkeep.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1000 "2009-03-06T17:29:58Z")

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More hauntings now! Whoooooo!

Man, I cannot BELIEVE the luck in this game.

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