# Werewolf (Mafia)--The Split \[Signups--In progress\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 13, 2009, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692 "2009-02-13T15:44:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 62
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1221 "2009-03-13T15:56:55Z")
We are facing a tie in the lynch vote. Ties are bad, because the condemned is then determined randomly from some set of players; but even if the set of players is those tied for lynch allowing a random decision is bad. Particularly now when we have four days under our belt. Telcontar has been bothering me since Day 1 (I was a spectator then, but it still bothered me). His urging of a no lynch at some point in the game, regardless of the game situation, is not helpful to town. Ironically there _was_ a Day when no lynch would have been profitable in this game. Day 1. In retrospect, lynching November was a disaster because we now have nothing to look back on and contrast with current behaviour. No-one interacted with November in any meaningful way. The correct move would have been to lynch someone else, and sub November out. This would have maximised information. That there is the key to the Town winning this game. Maximising the information gained from the losses in players. Telcontar has _not once_ acknowledged this, despite his experience with the game. Maybe he simply hasn’t come round to this yet, or maybe he has but is trying to conceal it from the new players (who form a large majority in this game). Elendil’s Heir has had several accusations of hiding behind fluff and lack of explanation. (see, for example, Fluiddruid’s post 1218. While this is not always indicative of Werewolf status, it’s more likely to be in a new player. While I was typing this Daphne took the decision out of my hands. On balance I’d rrather lynch Telcontar, but voting for him would force a tie, and a tie is worse than not voting (imo – I know Telcontar disagrees). I have the time for this. **Vote Telcontar**. @ EH : You have until Noon EDT to analyse my posts. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1222 "2009-03-13T15:57:31Z")
Dammit. Time has flown. That took too long. I’ll wait to see how the vote goes before turning my attention to **MHaye**. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1223 "2009-03-13T15:58:01Z")
**Unvote Telcontar**. Yes, the vote and unvotes in separate posts is deliberate. But Ties Are Bad. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1224 "2009-03-13T15:59:59Z")
I’m leaving my vote where it is. I am of two minds about Telcontar - he’s made some plays that would be daring for a Wolf, though he seems to want to point out how often he’s doing so - and I’m not sure if EH is a newbie townie who’s afraid to post or a newbie scum who’s afraid to post, but I’d bet it’s not intentional lurking. I still think Oredigger is the better candidate and now that the tie’s been broken, I don’t feel I need to move my vote. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1225 "2009-03-13T16:01:07Z")
unvote DaphneBlack lynch Telcontar ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1226 "2009-03-13T16:07:15Z")
Elendil’s Heir (4): rexnervous, Oredigger77, Telcontar, DaphneBlack Telcontar (3): Mahaloth, Justin Credible, Jimmy Chitwood Oredigger77 (2): Fluiddruid, Allwalker MHaye (1): Zeriel DaphneBlack (1): Elendil’s Heir The group converged around Elendil’s Heir. He struggled, and wiggled, and juggled, but to no avail. Elendil’s Heir, a Farmer Werewolf, has been killed. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1227 "2009-03-13T16:09:11Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > unvote DaphneBlack > lynch Telcontar :winces: One minute past the deadline. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1228 "2009-03-13T16:11:07Z")
@_&@#_&(\*@$& SDMB clock! Oh, well. Awroooooooooo and all that. Thanks, folks. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1229 "2009-03-13T16:14:38Z")
Night ends Sunday at Noon EDT. ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1230 "2009-03-13T16:17:31Z")
Hallelujah, amen! See you in a few days, folks! ---
**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1231 "2009-03-13T16:32:44Z")
> [@DaphneBlack](#): > > Hallelujah, amen! > > See you in a few days, folks! Meaningful vote records, a hard fought lynching of a wolf, strong on the record conflict…we might actually be able to win this. Great, I was hoping to finally get a break from this game and now I have real information to go dig up. Bah. It’s terrible state of affairs :). Now I’ll take a drink. Vodka, no ice. With a chaser of vodka. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1232 "2009-03-13T16:36:15Z")
Yes!!! Party tonight! ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1233 "2009-03-13T17:01:54Z")
Sweet!! No shut out. Well, its time to party, Long Islands on me. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1234 "2009-03-13T17:09:48Z")
Yeaaaaaaaaaah! All the drunken ghosts, wave your ectoplasm and say whoooo!!! ---
**Author:** ![Seeker\_of\_Truth\_and\_Beauty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@Seeker\_of\_Truth\_and\_Beauty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seeker_of_Truth_and_Beauty)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1235 "2009-03-13T17:13:21Z")
I try not to wave my…ectoplasm around in public, thankyewverymuch. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1236 "2009-03-13T17:14:04Z")
Alright, good stuff. This might provide some good vote analysis fodder. ---
**Author:** ![\_Undecided\_Adrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/eada6e/32.png) [@\_Undecided\_Adrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_Undecided_Adrian)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1237 "2009-03-13T18:38:00Z")
Well done, guys. Pour out a drink for me. ---
**Author:** ![rexnervous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9c0ed/32.png) [@rexnervous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rexnervous)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1238 "2009-03-13T20:28:11Z")
Thank God. This is about to get much more interesting. And congrats to all (us townies) - I’m breaking out the bubbly. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1239 "2009-03-13T20:56:26Z")
Whoohoo! You mean the apple juice? ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Credible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a8b319/32.png) [@Justin\_Credible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Credible)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1240 "2009-03-13T23:11:53Z")
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